We're joined by Paul Gowder to discuss the rule of law, private power, and technology. We start, after important discussion of fishing bycatch and speech patterns of the western United States, with Paul's more general thoughts on the rule of law, oligopolies, and equality. Conversation then focuses on the connection between substantive politics and rule of law and principles and then on the role of technology in facilitating collective action, including through Paul's Dr. StrangeContract and a new podcast idea for Paul's fights with customer service at large corporations and a prognostication of a future of AI retention specialists vs. CancelBots. This show’s links: Paul Gowder's faculty profile and website, which includes links to his writing Paul Gowder, The Rule of Law in the Real World Paul Gowder, Transformative Legal Technology and the Rule of Law About bycatch Nathan Masters, The 5, the 101, the 405: Why Southern Californians Love Saying "the" Before Freeway Numbers Mignon Fogarty, Spendy Roadwork…