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Scott Shapiro joins us to discuss how law relates to, well, everything. His article with David Plunkett argues that theorizing about the nature of law is a project to understand how talking and thinking about law fit into reality. But first, we talk with him about Twitter, writing, collaboration, Joe's innermost psyche, and more. This show’s links: Scott Shapiro’s faculty profile and academic writing Scott Shapiro, Legality Oona Hathaway and Scott Shapiro, The Internationalists Oral Argument 112: Quasi-Narrative (guest Simon Stern) Scott Shapiro and David Plunkett, Law, Morality and Everything Else: General Jurisprudence as a Branch of Meta-Normative Inquiry Special Guest: Scott Shapiro.