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Show Summary: What motivates long-shot presidential candidate? Is it possible for a third-party runner – or a Democratic or Republican dark horse – to get to the White house? If it’s not about winning, what’s to gain? Guests: Michael Kohn, Bay Area for Bernie; Matt Dallek, Assistant Prof. Of Political Management in the Graduate School of Political Management at George Washington University, visiting scholar at Stanford’s Bill Lane Center for the American West.