Recorded 30th July 2017 Karl Madden, host of the Mac & Forth Show and the Here ‘N’ There Show, founding member of this podcast AND one of the biggest reasons Simon ended up getting into podcasting and becoming co-host, joins Simon while Mark is off “enjoying” a 100 mile cycle ride in London. On this week’s show: Apple kills off the iPod Nano and Shuffle – EOnline Apple gets found guilty of infringing patents of the Wisconsin University and original penalty gets doubled… Apple to appeal – ArsTechnica Apple removing VPN services from Chinese App Store – Reuters A big GOLD STAR for Stunt Software for their support with my problem with Overflow Microsoft brings its own continuity feature “Continue on PC” to iOS – Microsoft MS Paint is dead - or perhaps it’s not – Microsoft from @dougee Google Maps adds elevation information handy for runners, cyclists and others – Mashable from @dougee Smart Vacuum Cleaners Making Map Of Your Home — And Wants to Sell It – Hacker News This only seemed a little bit OTT until I…