The Home Staging Show

The Home Staging Show

www.staged4more.com/podcast
Welcome to The Home Staging Show! This is a podcast about everything home staging, real estate, selling a house and creating a beautiful home to live or to sell. You can find out more about the show at staged4more.com/podcast.


SEO for Your Home Staging Business Website with Galen Mooney
Oct 21 • 55 min
SEO (Search Engine Optimization) is such an important online marketing strategy in growing our website traffic, so we can attract more home staging clients even while we are sleeping. In this episode, I invited Galen Mooney, a local SEO and website…
Renting vs. Buying Home Staging Inventory
Oct 15 • 18 min
On today’s show, I answered a listener’s question about whether to switch from the renting from furniture rental companies home staging business model to carrying your own home staging inventory!
Generating Home Staging Business During COVID and Holiday Season Slow Down
Oct 7 • 22 min
On today’s show, I share five strategies and six ideas to generate income for your home staging business in dealing with your home staging business slowing down due to COVID and the upcoming holiday season.
How Home Stagers Can Market to Realtors
Jun 27 • 31 min
On today’s episode, I go over ways on how to approach realtors and market your home staging business, like: how to get over feeling intimidated or scared to speak with real estate agents, how to approach realtors when you are new and where to start when…
Social Media Marketing for Home Stagers
Jun 19 • 36 min
On today’s show, we talk about social media marketing for home stagers: What skills should I look for in a marketing professional? What is an average budget should I consider for marketing my home staging business? Where to invest marketing money, social…
What Directions Should I Focus On When I am a New Home Stager
Feb 27 • 27 min
Here’s Today’s Listener Question: My struggle is to what directions I should focus on and how I can start to network and create my client base. Website? Business name? Portfolio not yet, how do I start to create my portfolio? Capital budget? Thank you…
50 High-ROI Ways to Market Your Home Staging Business
Feb 26 • 62 min
Don’t forget to check out our Anniversary Giveaway this Friday! Go to www.staged4more.com/giveaway to see all the details and prizes. Here’s Today’s Listener Question: What are the key things that I can do to market my new home staging business with good…
Buying Home Staging Inventory When You are Starting Up
Feb 26 • 8 min
Here’s Today’s Listener Question: Question 1: Start up and buying items. Question 2 from Dwayne: is it smart not to go out and buy a whole lot of decor and furniture when you are a start up business?
How to Win Over Clients When You Are a New Stager
Feb 11 • 10 min
Here’s Today’s Listener Question: I’m very new to home staging, just starting to get myself educated. While doing some research I noticed a lot of companies like to advertise how long they’ve been in business and why that means they are reliable and…
How to Buy Home Staging Inventory Without Breaking the Bank
Feb 4 • 10 min
Today’s Listener Question: I did my first home staging consultation. It was on a vacant home. The home is a model home for new construction townhomes in a community which attracts many young professionals as well as those looking to downsize. I did not…
Overwhelmed and Unsure Where to Start as a New Home Stager
Jan 29 • 14 min
Today’s Listener Question: I’m in the process of setting up a Home Staging / Interiors advise service locally and am feeling a bit overwhelmed with information and where to start. I have a Textiles background and have studied Interior Design part time…
Key Financial Numbers You Need to Know to Build a Profitable Home Staging Business with Profit First Coach Michele Williams
Nov 20, 2019 • 58 min
Today we’re talking about all things profit and what you need to know to build the most profitable and sustainable home staging business you can. It can be hard to know what to charge, what your numbers mean, and what you should be looking at in your…
The Pros and Cons of Virtual Home Staging with Atlanta Home Stager Krisztina Bell
Nov 13, 2019 • 52 min
We have a return guest on the show today, and this time she’s here to talk all about the pros & cons of virtual home staging. This can be a pretty controversial topic in the home staging world, so I wanted to hear what Krisztina had to say about why home…
Why Referrals Are the Absolute Best Way to Grow Your Business with Stacey Brown Randall
Nov 6, 2019 • 62 min
Stacey Brown Randall is a member of the business failure club, a contrarian on how to generate referrals and a supporter of the entrepreneurial dream. Stacey’s programs help small business owners and solopreneurs take control of their referrals, their…
Eco-Friendly and Effective Pest Control Solutions with Franklin Hernandez
Oct 30, 2019 • 58 min
One of the less glamorous but incredibly important aspects of owning or selling a home is keeping pests out and their damage to a minimum. Today’s guest is an expert on natural and eco-friendly pest control, and he has some super-helpful tips for keeping…
Interior Design Dilemmas and Styling Your Home & Brand with Interior Stylist Joanna Thornhill
Oct 23, 2019 • 46 min
A life-long interiors obsessive, Joanna Thornhill’s passion for design, eye for pulling together a cohesive visual story and approachable yet knowledgable writing style has led her to her dream career as an Interiors Stylist, Writer and Author. Joanna and…
Styling Homes to Look High End with Antiques, Bold Accessories, and Other Treasures with Kate Dawson
Oct 16, 2019 • 53 min
Kate Dawson is an interior designer who specializes in making homes look like a million bucks at a fraction of the price. Kate works with her clients to make sure their home brings them a sense of joy and excitement without breaking the bank. We talked…
How to Get Consistent Home Staging Clients
Oct 11, 2019 • 47 min
On this last episode of the special mini series, Marketing Your Home Staging Business, I shared 5 tips on how to build a consistent clientele for your home staging business: the key things you must do, what you must find out about your potential clients…
Social Media Marketing for Home Stagers
Oct 10, 2019 • 31 min
On this fourth episode of the special mini series, Marketing Your Home Staging Business, I shared 5 tips on marketing your home staging business on social media: what platforms to choose, how not to spend so much time on social media and still be…
Email Marketing for Home Stagers
Oct 9, 2019 • 14 min
On this third episode of the special mini series, Marketing Your Home Staging Business, I shared 5 tips on writing your email newsletter: easy ways to keep it consistent without feeling stressed about it, how to boost your open rates, and how to build…
What to Say to Homeowners When Marketing Your Home Staging Business
Oct 8, 2019 • 23 min
On this second episode of the special mini series, Marketing Your Home Staging Business, I shared 5 tips on preparing what to say when you are marketing to homeowners on a live stream on Instagram. In these 5 tips, I covered what not to say in front of…
What to Say to Real Estate Agents When Marketing Your Home Staging Business
Oct 7, 2019 • 32 min
On this first episode of the special mini series, Marketing Your Home Staging Business, I shared 5 tips on preparing what to say when you are marketing to real estate agents on a live stream on Instagram. In these 5 tips, I covered what not to say in…
Effective and Engaging Ways to Market Your Home Staging Business with Kate the Socialite
Oct 2, 2019 • 56 min
Kate the Socialite is a published author, podcast host & entrepreneur. Her #1 goal is to help home professionals market their businesses with ease and simplicity. We talk about why social media shouldn’t be your only marketing strategy, and why your email…
Masterclass on Choosing Colors for Staging & Selling with Color Expert JoAnne Lenart-Weary
Sep 25, 2019 • 60 min
JoAnne Lenart-Weary is a Professional Interior Decorator and 40 year industry veteran who was staging and redesigning before the terms were even coined. JoAnne delivers a total masterclass on choosing colors, color saturation, picking the right lighting,…
Luxury Home Staging Design & Clientele Advice with Kristy Craig Anderson
Sep 18, 2019 • 56 min
Kristy started Dwell Staging in 2014 with the goal to bring fresh, contemporary staging to the Tampa Bay area. Kristy and I talk about how she got into home staging as a second career and how she made the leap to start staging luxury homes. We chat about…
Home Staging Business Q&A with Our Awesome Audience
Sep 12, 2019 • 51 min
This week, I am answering a few listener’s questions on the business of home staging. In the episode, I talked about a few key design principles when it comes to staging homes, dealing with your self-doubt as a new home stager, how occupied home stagers…
Creating a Profitable & Sustainable Home Staging Business with Profit First Coach Michele Williams
Jul 17, 2019 • 62 min
Profit First coach Michele Williams offers up great advice in this episode. She shares her background in business and explains how the Profit First model works and why she thinks it’s such an effective way to manage the cash flow of your business. We also…
Real Estate Photography with Photographer Kristina Kandel
Jul 10, 2019 • 61 min
Today’s show is all about real estate photography! We talked a lot about the technical side of photography, like white balance, exposure, ISO, etc. We also talked about the styling side of things, especially how differently the camera sees the room vs.…
DIY Landscape Design that Sells Your Home with Landscape Designer Ben Hale
Jul 3, 2019 • 53 min
You only get one chance to make a good first impression, and nowhere is this more obvious than when we’re looking at a house. I’ve seen it plenty of times: clients pull up to a house for a viewing, but are so put off by the outside that they don’t even…
What Millennials Want Plus Home Staging Community Building with Top Atlanta Stager Krisztina Bell
Jun 26, 2019 • 52 min
Krisztina Bell is an Atlanta-based home stager, vacant properties specialist, and the pioneer of “virtual staging”. Krisztina and I discuss the importance of good staging for selling vacant properties, how millennials are changing the home staging game,…
Stop Renting, Find an Amazing Real Estate Agent & Market Your House to Stand Out with Courtney Poulos
Jun 20, 2019 • 61 min
Courtney Poulos is the broker/owner of ACME Real Estate, a design-savvy boutique brokerage focusing on brand marketing and real estate sales. She also has a mission to help women achieve financial independence through real estate investment. Courtney…
Affordable Interior Design & Tips for High-End Styling with Betsy Helmuth
Jun 12, 2019 • 51 min
Betsy Helmuth and I talk about the structure of the interior design industry and why Betsy wanted to offer a more affordable design service so that clients of any budget could afford to hire a designer. She also shares her tips for budgeting, creating a…
How Staging Affects Buyer Psychology and How to Stage a Home to Sell with Stager and Realtor Kelly Williams
Jun 5, 2019 • 41 min
Kelly and I talk about how being a home stager prepared her for being a real estate agent and debunk some common misconceptions about real estate and home staging. We then dive into all the ways that staging can affect a buyer’s choice to purchase a home,…
Modern Living and DIY in an 1880s home with Stacy Grinsfelder, Host of Blake Hill House Podcast
May 28, 2019 • 50 min
On this episode, I’ve got a fellow podcaster Stacy Grinsfelder. In this episode, we talked about why she decided to move into an old house and what to expect if you want to do the same. We discuss home inspections, what kind of money & time you can expect…
Social Media Marketing for Real Estate Professionals with Marketing Manager McCall Capozzi
May 22, 2019 • 40 min
I am really excited about having McCall on the show today. She is very good at breaking down ways to engage with your audience and grow your social media presence for your business. We also talked a lot about using videos to grow your engagement. During…
How to Stage Homes, Train Assistants and Shop Inventory with Top Home Stager Anthea Click
May 15, 2019 • 67 min
I am SO excited to have Anthea Click back. She is a total rockstar as you can tell from last season’s episode. On the podcast today, we delved in deeper on her home staging business, on how she buys inventory, the costs of inventory, pricing and where to…
Building a Home Staging Business in a Brand New Market with Italian Stager Sanja Radovanovic
Apr 17, 2019 • 77 min
On the show today, I am interviewing Sanja who is an interior designer and the founder of The Art of Staging. She has launched her home staging business in 2013 in Chicago, Illinois and has moved to Rome, Italy in 2016 where she currently lives and works.…
Selecting Artwork for Your Home or Staging Project, Plus How Colors Influence Us with Artist and Marketing Agency Owner Darcy Briks
Apr 10, 2019 • 61 min
On the show today, we have an artist and a creative director of a marketing agency Darcy Briks on the show. During today’s show, we chatted a lot about the creative process, using colors and how we perceive and are influenced by colors. Because of Darcy’s…
Interview with UK Millennial Home Stager Olivia Conlon, from £30k to £1M in a Year
Apr 3, 2019 • 60 min
Today on the show, we have Olivia Conlon, a UK stager based in Glasgow, on the show. She started her staging business when she was 16 and about 4 years in, her home staging business services entire country of United Kingdom and she not only stage homes,…
Cultivating Multiple Streams of Income as A Home Stager with Luxury Home Stager Anthea Click
Mar 27, 2019 • 62 min
On today’s show, Anthea Click and I talked a lot about everything: the growth in the real estate industry, staging Airbnbs, differentiating yourself from other stagers in the market place and building multiple streams of income as a home stager. So a lot…
Creating More Demand for Your Listing with FL Real Estate Agent Kristina Mollo
Mar 12, 2019 • 59 min
Today, I interview real estate agent Kristina Mollo and we talked about the process of both buying and selling a home and what today’s buyers are looking for. When it comes to selling real estate, it is important to understand what today’s buyers are…
How to Use Pinterest to Market Your Home Staging Business with Pinterest Expert Kate Ahl of Simple Pin Media
Feb 27, 2019 • 44 min
Today, I have Kate from Simple Pin Media with us to talk about leveraging Pinterest for our businesses. I know our first five episodes of this season really focused on building a home staging business. For the next few episodes, we are going to shift the…
Staging Homes for Home Builders and TV Shows with Top Stager Kevin Htain
Feb 13, 2019 • 43 min
Recognized amongst Staging and Design aficionados for his engaging personality and his limitless devotion to the Home Staging industry, Kevin Htain- Lifetime Master Accredited Staging Professional, has become an iconic figure in the Staging industry for…
What New Home Stagers Must Know about Pricing, Getting Clients and Home Staging Contract with Award-Winning Seattle Stager Edi Keech | The Home Staging Show S8.3
Jan 31, 2019 • 56 min
On the show today, we talked about: -How can new stagers get a leg up and compete with seasoned stagers -Pricing your home staging services -How to style and stage the home without looking cookie-cutter -Building different streams of income as a home…
Pricing Home Staging Services, Business Model & Staging Luxury Homes with Award-Winning Seattle Stager Edi Keech
Jan 23, 2019 • 61 min
On today’s show, here are some of the stuff we discussed: Staging vacant homes vs. occupied homes Starter homes vs. luxury homes? What usually caused home sellers and realtors to resist staging How to deal with clients who are not willing to stage…
Shift Your Mindset and Create the Business You Love with Success Coach Makayla Ervin | Season 8 Ep 1
Jan 16, 2019 • 50 min
Makayla Ervin, a success coach share her experiences with mindset shifts and eliminating self-limiting beliefs. Talking about this can sound very woo woo, but from my own experiences, building a business that makes me feel fulfilled, that can serve others…
Your Questions Answered
Apr 6, 2018 • 19 min
Hey everyone, welcome back to the last episode of our season 7. On today’s show, it’s a Q&A session. I have received a few questions from our listeners. Before we get started today, I just want to take the time and thank you for your support for this past…
Pricing Your Job for Profits and Boost Your Cash Flow with Denise O’Berry
Mar 30, 2018 • 80 min
On this episode, I’m really happy to interview Denise O’Berry, who is a small business and cash flow expert, on the show. During this episode, she shared many valuable tips about pricing your work, dealing with client objections, cash flow issues in the…
Pricing Your Home Staging Jobs with Pam Christensen
Mar 21, 2018 • 65 min
On today’s show, Pam Christensen is back to chat with us about the financial side of a home staging business. We talk about profit margins, working with a bookkeeper and CPA, as well as how to price home staging projects. We also chat about hiring as…
Blogging for Real Estate with Top Blogger and Agent Mary Pope-Handy
Mar 9, 2018 • 65 min
On today’s show, I’m interviewing Mary Pope-Handy, who has been selling homes full time since 1993. On the show, we talk about best practices in selling a home, as well as habits of successful real estate professionals. We also dive into blogging for real…
How New Stagers Can Thrive in Today’s Market with Bobbie McGrath
Mar 2, 2018 • 85 min
Welcome Back to Season 7 Episode 6! On today’s show, Bobbie is back to chat with us about how new home stagers can strive in today’s market.Bobbie and I started with the question: “What is the difference between newbie stager v. amateur stager v. seasoned…
Home Staging Business Models with Bobbie McGrath
Feb 23, 2018 • 107 min
On today’s show, I’m interviewing a woman who needs no introduction! Bobbie is back on the show this season to talk to us today about home staging business models, challenges in the home staging business, doing occupied homes, consultations and mistakes…
Buyer Demographics and Psychographics with Amy Powers
Feb 16, 2018 • 56 min
Hey, Happy New Year for those of you who celebrate the Lunar New Year! I want to wish you a very happy and prosperous new year! On today’s show, I’m interviewing Amy Powers about buyer’s demographics and psychographics. This is an important step in…
Everything Home Staging Inventory with Pam Christensen
Feb 9, 2018 • 97 min
I’m incredibly impressed by Pam’s business and the scale of operations that she has. Her organization and strong business sense really show through her interviews. What I really love about Pam is that she knows her numbers extremely well. We talked a lot…
Maximizing Your Home Value with Nicole Hamilton
Feb 2, 2018 • 61 min
On today’s episode, I have the fortune to interview Nicole Hamilton, the founder of homeownering.com, a company dedicated to helping homeowners have great financial outcomes. On today’s show, we talked quite a lot about ways homeowners can maximize the…
Create Winning Marketing Strategies with Fred Berns
Jan 25, 2018 • 74 min
The Home Staging Show S7.1
How One Home Seller’s Persistence Pays Off | The Home Staging Show S6.10
Aug 16, 2017 • 99 min
On the last episode of this season, I have one of…
Do It Yourself Home Staging with Lisa, the Budget Equestrian
Aug 8, 2017 • 60 min
We talked about selling an equestrian property fo…
How to Maximize Profit & ROI When Selling Your Home | The Home Staging Show S6 Ep8
Aug 3, 2017 • 68 min
On the show today, I have Portland Relator Laurne…
Pricing Listings in Competitive Real Estate Market with San Francisco Realtor Emily Beaven | S6.7
Jul 26, 2017 • 66 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 6 episode 7. On …
Selling Real Estate with Top 1% Producer Gina Piper | The Home Staging Show S6.6
Jul 19, 2017 • 28 min
For the next 3 episodes, we have 3 top producing …
Leverage Color Psychology to Successfully Stage Your Home for Sale with Top Stager Tracey McLeod
Jul 12, 2017 • 80 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 6 episode 5. I’m…
How New Home Stagers Can Build Thriving Home Staging Businesses | The Home Staging Show S6.4
Jul 5, 2017 • 72 min
I’m so excited to interview Tracey McLeod, an int…
How Home Staging Can Make or Break Your Home Sale with Bobbie McGrath | The Home Staging Show S6.3
Jun 28, 2017 • 118 min
I’m so excited to have Bobbie back on the show. W…
How Home Staging Sells Real Estate with Top Stager Helen Bartlett | The Home Staging Show S6.2
Jun 21, 2017 • 67 min
On today’s show, I interview Helen Barlett who is…
Organize and Stage Your Home with Professional Stager and Organizer Nina Dorian S6.1
Jun 14, 2017 • 61 min
WOOHOO! Seaon 6! Couple huge updates: We just lau…
[Course Preview] Color Schemes for Staging Your Home | Day 3 of 30-Day Home Staging Show Podcast
Jan 31, 2017 • 22 min
Welcome to the Day 3 of the 30-Day Home Staging C…
[Course Preview] First Home Walkthrough | Day 2 of 30 Day Home Staging Challenge
Jan 30, 2017 • 13 min
Welcome to do DAY 2 of the 30 day home staging ch…
[Course Preview] Home Staging 101 | Day 1 of 30-Day Home Staging Challenge
Jan 29, 2017 • 29 min
Hey guys, Happy Sunday! Today we are kicking off …
Create Your Own Reality with Business Coach Marianne Cherico // Season 5 Episode 1
Jan 13, 2017 • 34 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 5 episode 1! Ha…
A Home Staging Reminder for Thanksgiving, 2016 Wrap Up & 2017 Preview!
Nov 23, 2016 • 5 min
HAPPY THANKSGIVING! I just want to take this opp…
Top Do’s and Don’ts to Stage and Sell Your Home During the Holidays with HGTV Host Lisa Colalillo
Oct 19, 2016 • 49 min
Hey guys, welcome back to the last episode of Sea…
Occupied Home Staging with Top Home Stager Michelle Finnamore
Sep 30, 2016 • 64 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 4 episode 10! So…
How to Stage to Sell While You’re Living in the Home with Top Home Stager Karen Otto
Sep 23, 2016 • 53 min
Originally I had scheduled an interview last week…
How to Renovate with Interior Designer and Reno Expert Carmen Darwin
Sep 14, 2016 • 74 min
On today’s show, I’m interviewing Carmen Darwin, …
Occupied Home Staging & Designing a Happy Home with Home Stager & Interior Designer Holly Bellomy
Sep 8, 2016 • 65 min
On today’s show, I’m interviewing home stager and…
Successful Home Staging and Creating Win-Win Real Estate Sales with Bobbie McGrath
Sep 3, 2016 • 116 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 4 episode 6! hap…
Creating Wealth & Removing Your Money Blocks with Money Coach Denise Hughes
Aug 24, 2016 • 113 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 4 episode 5! Tod…
How the Top 1% Sell Real Estate with Mariana Wagner, Colorado Realtor & Mortgage Broker | S4Ep4
Aug 17, 2016 • 75 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 4 episode 4! Tod…
Real Estate Investment & Money Strategies with Catherine Hawley, CFP | Season 4 Episode 3
Aug 11, 2016 • 58 min
Hey guys, welcome back to season 4 episode 3! We …
Successful Real Estate Investing with Felicia Bender
Aug 3, 2016 • 85 min
On the show today, I have the good fortune to int…
What moving 32 times in 6 months taught me about staging homes | Season 4 Episode 1
Jul 27, 2016 • 26 min
Hi guys, welcome back to SEASON 4!!! I cannot bel…
Updating Your Home For Sale & Choosing Finishes
Apr 15, 2016 • 35 min
On the show today, I want to talk about doing upd…
Choosing The Right Colors For Your Home With True Color Expert Maria Killiam
Apr 6, 2016 • 54 min
On the show today, I’m interviewing Maria Killiam…
How You Can Alienate Buyers & Tank Your Real Estate Sale
Mar 31, 2016 • 96 min
On today’s show, I’m interviewing buyer’s agent C…
Why Your Real Estate Listing Photos Are Ruining Your Sale [Season 3, Episode 9]
Mar 23, 2016 • 93 min
On the show today, I interview a professional pho…
300+ DIY Home Staging A Year With Maryland Home Stager Andrea Kaba
Mar 16, 2016 • 87 min
On the show today, I interview Andrea Kaba, an in…
Capsule Wardrobe For The Year
Mar 9, 2016 • 37 min
On today’s show, let’s talk about Capsule Wardrob…
How To Clear Clutter The Right Way According To Marie Kondo
Feb 10, 2016 • 55 min
Happy Lunar New Year! I want to wish everyone a p…
Visualize & Create Your Ideal Home
Feb 3, 2016 • 19 min
Hi guys, welcome back to the Home Staging Show, w…
Manifest & Create The Style You Crave With Desha Peacock | The Home Staging Show Season 3 Ep 4
Jan 27, 2016 • 67 min
I had a great interview with Desha Peacock, I thi…
Design Your Fabulous Future With Lara Young | The Home Staging Show Season 3 Ep 3
Jan 20, 2016 • 42 min
Hi guys, welcome back to the Home Staging Show, w…
Mindful Clutter Clearing With Laura Gaskill | The Home Staging Show Season 2 Episode 2
Jan 13, 2016 • 53 min
Today I’m interviewing Laura Gaskill, who is an i…
HGTV Host Lisa Colalillo & Realtor On Buyers, Critical Listings & Marketing To The Right Buyers
Jan 6, 2016 • 60 min
On today’s show I’m interviewing Lisa, host of Th…
Home Staging Q & A And BIG Announcement! // The Home Staging Show S2 Ep15
Dec 16, 2015 • 48 min
Hey guys, welcome back! Oh my gosh, I cannot beli…
Profitable Home Selling Habits of Successful Real Estate Investors with Realtor Marj Weir
Dec 8, 2015 • 82 min
On today’s show, I am interviewing real estate ag…
How To Pick Colors For Your Home With Color Consultant Renate Ruby // The Home Staging Show S2 Ep13
Dec 2, 2015 • 97 min
HAPPY DECEMBER! On today’s show, I am interviewin…
Real Estate Marketing That Sells With Live Urban Denver Marketing Director Stacie Staub
Nov 24, 2015 • 73 min
I have the fortune to interview Stacie Staub, who…
All About Shopping: How, What & Where to Buy For Staging or Decorating Your Home
Nov 17, 2015 • 55 min
Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of The H…
Timeless & Beautiful Home Design With Carla Aston The Home Staging Show Season 2 Episode 10
Nov 11, 2015 • 68 min
On today’s show, we are interviewing interior des…