Newsworthy with Norsworthy

Newsworthy with Norsworthy
Luke Norsworthy interviews guests such as Richard Rohr, Rob Bell, Barbara Brown Taylor, N.T. Wright, Donald Miller, Joel Timothy Houston and John Ortberg.
Ramjaane Niyoyita
Mar 20 • 43 min
The return of Ramjaane Niyoyita to discuss the Rwanda Genocide, dehumanization, reconciliation, Rick Warren, music and chicken fajitas. For more about the Pepperdine Bible Lectures click here.
Mike Cope
Mar 13 • 43 min
Mike Cope returns to the show to discuss addictions to certainty, sufferings role in spiritual formation, Reading the Bible as a Muslim, Newsworthy after Dark in Malibu, and Mike’s own spiritual journey’s construction, deconstruction and reconstruction.…
March Mailbag
Mar 6 • 37 min
On this Mailbag episode we discuss bridging traditional and conservative Christianity, Calvinism, theological differences within marriage, the role of the pastor, Midrash and too many white male guests. For more on the Pepperdine Bible Lectures click here.
February Wrapup Part 2: Jonathan Storment
Feb 27 • 57 min
In Part 2 of the February Wrapup Jonathan Storment discusses how he’s just like Jimmy Kimmel, resurrection, evangelism, leadership and church wounds. We start the show by talking with the president of Missions Resource Network Dr. Dan Bouchelle. For more…
February Wrapup: Part 1 Tripp Fuller
Feb 27 • 53 min
Tripp Fuller returns to discuss the John Cobb interview including the divinity of Jesus, gender pronouns, the Gospel of John, Peter Rollin’s divinity, and process theology vs. open theism. For more on this month’s sponsor Missions Resource Network click…
Carol Howard Merritt: Healing Spiritual Wounds
Feb 26 • 47 min
Rev. Carol Howard Merritt joins the show to discuss running from pain, church wounds, treating anger as a small child, backsliding atheists, absolution, and her new book Healing Spiritual Wounds. For more on this month’s sponsor Missions Resource Network…
Jamin Goggin: The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb
Feb 20 • 46 min
Jamin Goggin joins the show to talk guru vs sages, two ways of power, Jean Vanier, morality and his new book (with Kyle Strobel) The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb. For more on this month’s sponsor Missions Resource Network click here. Or email…
Larry Hurtado: Destroyer of the gods
Feb 12 • 46 min
Dr. Larry Hurtado joins the show to discuss early Christianity including Christian distinctiveness, what made Christianity bizarre, Christianity as a philosophy, God of love, the improbability of Resurrection in the first century and his book Destroyer of…
John Cobb
Feb 6 • 49 min
Live from Theology Beer Camp Dr. John Cobb joins the show to discuss Process Theology, Open Theology, divinity of Jesus, gender pronouns for God and Anslem. For more on this month’s sponsor Missions Resource Network click here. Or email them at…
January Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Jan 30 • 58 min
Jonathan Storment returns to discuss conversions vs. deconversions, Morgan Freeman, the inability to have neutrality, the story teller for Christianity, wish-fulfillment, spiral dynamics, cancer humor and all things January from the podcast.
James Younger and Barry Taylor: The Story of God
Jan 29 • 50 min
James Younger, executive producer of National Geographic’s The Story of God with Morgan Freeman, joins the show to discuss sharks, Lie Witness News and which religion wins. Dr. Barry Taylor co-host of the Story of Godcast discusses AC/DC, spirituality of…
Jason Micheli: Cancer is Funny
Jan 23 • 38 min
United Methodist pastor Jason Micheli joins the show to discuss humor, grief, faith in stage serious cancer and his new book Cancer is Funny.
Pete Enns: Am I a Christian?
Jan 16 • 41 min
Pete Enns return to discuss the Tim Keller piece in the New York Times. What makes someone a Christian? Liturgical community vs. Biblicistic community? What is the offensiveness of the Gospel? And Can Pete Enns know how to ask questions?
Doug King: Spiral Dynamics
Jan 9 • 51 min
Doug King of Presence joins the show to introduce Spiral Dynamics. For more on Spiral Dynamics from Doug click here.
December Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Dec 31, 2016 • 44 min
Jonathan and Luke discuss Australian accents, reconstruction, community, theology of singing, and the refugee crisis.
Richard Beck: The Tag Team Sermon
Dec 25, 2016 • 32 min
A sermon that Richard Beck and Luke preached together on gratitude, prison and singing.
Joel Houston and Ramjaane Niyoyita: Refugee Crisis Part 2
Dec 18, 2016 • 69 min
In the second part of the refugee crisis conversation we hear from Joel Houston and Ramjaane Niyoyita. Joel Houston, of Hillsong United and Hillsong New York, discusses his experience with the Syrian refugee crisis and the Christian call to respond.…
Refugee Crisis Part 1: Jessica Goudeau and Ruhta
Dec 11, 2016 • 38 min
In the first of two discussions on the refugee crisis, Burmese refugee Ruhta* and Dr. JessicaGoudeau join the show to discuss the plight of refugees, leaving home, fear and Jessica’s piece on Trump’s rhetoric’s effects on refugees in the Washington Post.…
Reconstruction: Brian Zahnd and Paul Nevison
Dec 6, 2016 • 67 min
We discuss the transformation process of faith of construction, deconstruction and reconstruction with pastor and author Brian Zahnd and filmmaker Paul Nevison. For more on Brian Zahnd’s reconstruction check out his book Water to Wine. For more on Paul,…
November Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Nov 30, 2016 • 50 min
Jonathan Storment returns to talk Trump, the election, Hillbillies, Enneagram, why Søren Kierkegaard would be a terrible church member, the flaw of the New Perspective on Paul and Original Sin.
Stephen Backhouse and Richard Beck. Kierkegaard: A Single Life.
Nov 27, 2016 • 69 min
Dr. Stephen Backhouse and Dr. Richard Beck join the show to discuss Soren Kierkegaard, existentialism, philosophy, Church & State, and Stephen’s new book Kierkegaard: A Single Life. For more on the Deborah Club. For more on Tripp Fuller’s Theology Root…
Melissa Green and Josh Graves
Nov 20, 2016 • 59 min
Melissa Greene and Josh Graves join the show to talk Enneagram, how a preacher’s type affects their sermons, the rumor that all Church of Christ people can sing, and here’s the amazing song that Luke tried unsuccessfully to get Melissa to sing. For more…
Danielle Shroyer: Original Blessing
Nov 14, 2016 • 41 min
Danielle Shroyer joins the show to discuss the history of Original Sin, the importance of starting in Genesis one instead of Genesis three, Gospel, and her new book Original Blessing. For more on this month’s sponsor The Deborah Club click here.
N.T. Wright: The Day the Revolution Began
Nov 7, 2016 • 50 min
N.T. Wright returns to the show to discuss resurrection vs. resuscitation, humanity’s vocation, tickets to Heaven, Wrath, pagan views of God, and his new book The Day the Revolution Began. For more of the work of Dr. Wright go to For…
October Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Oct 31, 2016 • 56 min
Jonathan Storment returns to talk Stranger Things, prayer card competitions, Billy Graham’s evolution, hope, the Gospel of reconciliation, and all things October from the podcast.
Richard Beck and Caleb Kaltenbach: Live from the E3 Conference
Oct 29, 2016 • 59 min
Live from the E3 Conference, Dr. Richard Beck and Caleb Kaltenbach join the show for a LGBTQ centered discussion. Why liberals and conservatives talk past each other, The Righteous Mind, Messy Grace and hair.
Brian McLaren: The Great Spiritual Migration
Oct 24, 2016 • 44 min
Brian McLaren returns to discuss being political but not partisan, wisdom, evangelism and interfaith work, slippery slopes, progress and his new book The Great Spiritual Migration.
Episode 200
Oct 16, 2016 • 40 min
Luke is joined by his father, Larry Norsworthy, for episode number 200 to answer listener questions about the podcast’s effect on pastoral ministry, favorite moments, quirky stories, major themes and the effect the podcast has had on Luke’s relationships.
Kenneth Woodward: Getting Religion
Oct 9, 2016 • 49 min
Kenneth Woodward, editor for Newsweek’s religion section for four decades, joins the show to discuss Billy Graham’s evolution, Catholicism vs. Protestantism on salvation, Civil Religion, miracle stories and his new book ´╗┐Getting Religion.
Steven Moore and Randy Harris: Between the World and Me
Oct 3, 2016 • 44 min
English Professor Dr. Steven Moore and theologian Randy Harris join the show to discuss Ta-Nehisi Coates’s Between the World and Me, black rage, pro wrestling, black bodies, “those who imagine themselves to be white” and the power of listening. For more…
September Wrapup: Beck, Graves and Storment
Sep 29, 2016 • 53 min
Richard Beck, Josh Graves and Jonathan Storment join the show to discuss the Trinity, Cosmic Christ, saints, doubt, brain and all things September from the podcast.
Richard Rohr: The Divine Dance (Part 2) with Mike Morrell
Sep 26, 2016 • 47 min
In the second part of the Richard Rohr conversation about The Divine Dance we discuss the Cosmic Christ, spiral dynamics, praying to Jesus or through Jesus, the image of God, why the conservative church is more stable and the liberal’s inability to…
Richard Rohr: The Divine Dance (Part 1)
Sep 19, 2016 • 50 min
Richard Rohr returns to discuss U2, pagan views of God, the Gospel of John, culture consuming religion, suffering, evolution and his new book The Divine Dance. Part 1 of 2.
Mike McHargue: Finding God in the Waves
Sep 11, 2016 • 48 min
Science Mike returns to the podcast to discuss smart brain stuff, Pizza Mike, String Theory, Mike’s pod-father why Atheists win arguments and his new book Finding God in the Waves.
Fr. James Martin: My Life with the Saints
Sep 5, 2016 • 40 min
Fr. James Martin SJ returns to the show to discuss Stephen Colbert, the 10th Anniversary of My Life with the Saints, Sainthood like the Baseball Hall of Fame, Thomas Merton, Thomas Aquinas, the Saint of Darkness and the humanity of the saints.
August Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Aug 29, 2016 • 52 min
Jonathan Storment is back talking about preachers leaving ministry, educational divide in churches, Biblical criticism, work, who can read the Bible, mental health and all things August from the podcast.
Rich Little: Leaving Ministry
Aug 22, 2016 • 44 min
Dr. Rich Little rejoins the show to discuss leaving ministry, changing beliefs, pastors just going through the motions, doubt, deconstruction, suffering, selfish reasons for preaching and footwear.
Monica Coleman: Bipolar Faith
Aug 15, 2016 • 45 min
Dr. Monica Coleman joins the show to discuss mental health, faith, blackness, womanist vs. feminist theology, R&B groups vs. boy bands, forgiveness, safety, depression and her new book Bipolar Faith.
Pete Enns and Chris Green: The Revenant
Aug 8, 2016 • 39 min
Pete Enns and Chris Green return for another conversation discussing how to read the Old Testament, experience, Romans 10, creative readings, Jewish readings vs. Greek readings, loving a theory of meaning instead of loving the Bible and certainty.
Shauna Niequist: Present over Perfect
Aug 1, 2016 • 31 min
Shauna Niequist returns to the show to discuss work being a drug, Brene Brown, running from feelings, dealing with the emptiness, how we can’t earn love, the power of silence, and Shauna’s new book Present over Perfect.
July Wrapup with Jonathan Storment
Jul 29, 2016 • 47 min
Jonathan Storment joins the show to discuss Christian music, who would win in a fist fight between Joel Houston and James K.A. Smith, race, Jonathan running from the cops, Enneagram and of course we talk a little more about stand-up Comedy.
Luke’s Month of Stand Up Comedy
Jul 24, 2016 • 36 min
Wade Hodges joins the show to discuss Luke’s month of doing stand up comedy. They cover topics such as the differences and similarities of preaching vs. stand up, bombing, authenticity, blue material, missional Christianity, and more.
Fate Hagood
Jul 18, 2016 • 42 min
Fate Hagood joins the show to discuss his hometown of Compton, N.W.A., Law Enforcement, binary thinking, Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, listening and hope.
Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron: The Road Back to You
Jul 11, 2016 • 37 min
Suzanne Stabile and Ian Cron return to the show to discuss the Enneagram, personality profile, and their new podcast The Road Back to You.
Sean Adams: The Church’s Response to the Police Shootings
Jul 7, 2016 • 41 min
Sean Adams returns to discuss the church’s response to the shootings of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling. We also discuss the importance of listening, how bad people are in all occupations, good cops, and why our identity as Jesus’ followers should…
June Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Jun 29, 2016 • 57 min
Jonathan Storment returns to discuss Islam, cherishing your particularities, the hazard of growing up as a young preacher, moral progress, sacraments as the future of the church, Trump, and reconciliation. For more on this month’s sponsors the E3…
Lisa Sharon Harper: The Very Good Gospel
Jun 27, 2016 • 44 min
Lisa Sharon Harper discusses culture shock, Walter Brueggemann, Creation stories, Cross Colours, pilgrimages vs. trips, reconciliation as discipleship, Shalom vs. Heaven, shoes, sin and her new book The Very Good Gospel. For more on this month’s sponsors…
Tripp Fuller: Devilpalooza Follow-up Part 1.
Jun 24, 2016 • 58 min
Tripp Fuller from Homebrewed Christianity podcast returns to answer questions about the Devilpalooza. We discuss Calvinism, Rohr, Bono, Trump, the return of preaching and ducking issues as a minister. For part two click here. For more on this month’s…
Joshua Ryan Butler: The Pursuing God
Jun 19, 2016 • 50 min
Joshua Ryan Butler returns to the show discuss his trip to the Vatican to meet Pope Francis, bad views of God as an excuse to not live in relationship with God, Jesus as the ideal for Humanity, the difference between people who commit genocide and those…
Jonathan Martin: How to Survive a Shipwreck
Jun 12, 2016 • 44 min
Jonathan Martin returns to the show to discuss vulnerability hangovers, the portable Jerrod McKenna, shipwrecks shaping theology, baptism, Barbara Brown Taylor, bulking up with Stephen Furtick, Robert Redford, and his new book How to Survive a Shipwreck.…
Josh Graves: Christianity and Islam
Jun 5, 2016 • 41 min
Dr. Josh Graves returns to the show to talk about the recentPBS storyon his bridge building work between the Christian and Muslim community in Nashville, along with a brief discussion of the Enneagram, particularities, How Not to Kill a Muslim, the power…
May Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
May 29, 2016 • 53 min
Jonathan Storment joins us again to discuss his jealousy of Tripp Fuller, Evolution, Evil, the bow and arrow effect, God as an idea, Christian art, the LGBTQ community and all things May from the podcast.
Sally Gary: Loves God Likes Girls
May 22, 2016 • 43 min
Sally Gary joins the show to discuss the church’s response to the LGBTQ community, fear, safety, sexuality, idealizing family , transitioning from trial law to running her non-profit CenterPeace that provides safe places for men and women who experience…
Devilpalooza: N.T. Wright, Richard Beck, Greg Boyd, Tony Jones and Tripp Fuller.
May 16, 2016 • 117 min
Live from Malibu the Devilpalooza with N.T. Wright, Richard Beck, Greg Boyd, Tony Jones and Tripp Fuller. Luke and Tripp Fuller of The Homebrewed Christianity podcast make a full twenty minute introduction to the podcast, at the 21:00 mark the actual…
Rodrigo Garcia: Last Days in the Desert
May 11, 2016 • 31 min
Writer and Director Rodrigo Garcia joins the show to discuss the struggle of making a non-religious movie about Jesus, the humanity of Jesus, Father/Son relationships, the devil and his new movie Last Days in the Desert.
Richard Beck: Reviving Old Scratch
May 9, 2016 • 50 min
Dr. Richard Beck along with sidekick Jonathan Storment discuss the Devilpalooza (which will air next week), whose is responsible for the Wrapup podcast with Storment, going native, revolt theology, keeping faith during suffering, shame, and Richard’s new…
Paul Wallace: Stars Beneath Us
May 1, 2016 • 42 min
Physicists Dr. Paul Wallace joins the show to discuss the relation of Science and Theology, Job, evolution, God as an idea, Newton, God as a presence, God as un-shoehornable, Ex Nihlo and Stars Beneath Us.
April Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Apr 29, 2016 • 57 min
Jonathan Storment returns to the show to talk Justin Bieber, Calvinism, Ecumenicalism, grief, progress, suffering, flea markets, Three Phrases, Deuteronomy vs. Job and Jonathan is thankful for anyone interacting with him.
James Smith: You Are What You Love
Apr 25, 2016 • 44 min
Philosopher Dr. James Smith joins the show to talk The Power of Habits, being changed by Love, smoking nurses, virtues vs. laws, developing 2nd Nature, St. Augustine grass, sacraments, and his new book You Are What You Love.
Life is a Beach
Apr 17, 2016 • 24 min
The topic is modern spirituality’s propensity to build structures of safety instead of teaching us to swim in the mystery for the first ever Newsworthy Monologue.
Paul Nevison
Apr 11, 2016 • 45 min
Filmmaker Paul Nevison returns to the show to discuss his recent trip with World Vision to film the Syrian Refugee crisis, sitting with suffering, hopelessness, neighboring, and refusing to see persecutors as enemies.
A.J. Swoboda: The Dusty Ones
Apr 4, 2016 • 41 min
Dr. A.J. Swoboda returns to the show to discuss why Portland is so weird, rap songs by Shaq, modern Christianity’s over-promising, wandering pastors, and his new book The Dusty Ones.
March Wrapup
Mar 30, 2016 • 64 min
Jonathan Storment joins the show to discuss Rob Bell, evolving as a pastor, the muse, fragile worshipers, feeling alone, describing transcendent moments, jerk moments, chemo, Easter Sunday hangover, and all things March from the podcast.
Peter Enns: The Sin of Certainty
Mar 27, 2016 • 47 min
Dr. Peter Enns returns to the show to discuss Richard Rohr, honesty, how intellectuals can process spiritual experiences, forced deaths, the importance of going through agnostic phases, faith, Disney vs. Harvard, why Pete’s family doesn’t read his writing…
Richard Beck
Mar 20, 2016 • 58 min
Dr. Richard Beck returns to the show to discuss being a pessimist, Luke’s dad’s love for Pete Rollins, not true but good, William James, certainty as psychosis, fragile worshipers, substitutionary penal atonement, dead puppies, blood medleys, and his…
Peter Rollins
Mar 13, 2016 • 69 min
Philosopher, writer, storyteller Peter Rollins along with Peter’s biggest fan (Luke’s Dad) return to the show to discuss Burning Man, loss, rituals, doubt, the Divine Magician, certainty as a mental disorder, bad faith, Atheism for Lent, theodicy, and…
Rob Bell: How to Be Here
Mar 6, 2016 • 59 min
Rob Bell returns to the show to discuss creativity, moving the world forward, the difference between Luke and LeBron James, Love Wins, lame questions, despair, and Rob’s new book How to Be Here.
February Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Feb 28, 2016 • 55 min
Jonathan Storment is back on to discuss all things February from the podcast including celebrities in churches, why Jonathan’s blog crashed, Henri Nouwen, missions, grief, pastors changing, certainty, and we give a preview of the next month’s guests.
Jamie Wright: Round Two
Feb 28, 2016 • 40 min
Jamie Wright aka The Very Worst Missionary returns to the show to discuss the flaw with short-term missions, over-spiritualized language, the mission of the Church, core competency, a theology of vacations, #noprostitutes, her upcoming book, Uber,…
Josh Ross: Six Years Later
Feb 21, 2016 • 44 min
Josh Ross returns to the show to discuss life six years after his sister tragically passed away. We talk about the meaning of Hillsong United’s music to his journey, the Tomb being empty, the Four Truths that sustain him, Memphis, Scarred Faith, daily…
Joel Timothy Houston
Feb 19, 2016 • 49 min
Joel Timothy Houston from Hillsong United joins the show to discuss surfing, being a reluctant pastor, Eucharist, Henri Nouwen, The Beatitudes, Upward Falling, just getting to know Jesus, honest music, and Taylor Swift.
Brian Zahnd: Water to Wine
Feb 14, 2016 • 46 min
Brian Zahnd returns to the show to discuss his personal connection to Eminem, how a pastor can experience change, embracing the Great Tradition, dealing with doubt honestly, being used by politicians, certainty as a poor substitute for faith, becoming…
Sean Adams
Feb 6, 2016 • 47 min
Radio and TV sports personality Sean Adams joins the show to talk parenting, sports, church, how the things which make you great can cause you to struggle, balance, the Baylor scandal, and why you will never see Luke in the UFC.
January Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Jan 31, 2016 • 63 min
Jonathan Storment returns to discuss all things January on the podcast including non-violence, dealing with death, religion in a pluralistic society, and Making a Murder. Mike Cope also makes a cameo to discuss this month’s sponsor Pepperdine Bible…
Randy Harris: Round Three
Jan 30, 2016 • 42 min
Randy Harris returns to the show to discuss prayer, Thich Nach Han, Richard Rohr, the danger of talking for a living, and the time Randy yelled at Luke during preaching class. For more on this month’s sponsor The Pepperdine Bible Lectures click here.
Miroslav Volf: Flourishing
Jan 24, 2016 • 42 min
The Founding Director of The Yale Center for Faith & Culture, Professor Miroslav Volf, joins the show to discuss how religion benefits the world, the golden rule, religions resources for the world, evangelism and competing truth claims in a pluralistic…
Becca Stevens: Round Three
Jan 17, 2016 • 48 min
We join Rev.Becca Stevens from the Thistle Farm Cafe to talk about diving into death, song writing with Steven Tyler, taking a prophetic stance even when it costs you, Dixie Chicks, essential oils, listening to epiphanies, and Love has the last word. For…
Stephen Prothero: Why Liberals Win the Culture War
Jan 10, 2016 • 47 min
Dr. Stephen Prothero joins the show to discuss the unholy alliance of Church and politics, Moral Majority, Evangelicals interest in Donald Trump, racism, baptizing a southern way of life, Anabaptists, being a righteous loser, and his new book “Why…
Sam Jeffrey: Christians and Violence
Jan 4, 2016 • 45 min
Former CIA operative and current Criminal Justice professor Sam Jeffrey joins the show to discuss Christians use of violence, why we shouldn’t try to fix the world, why Christians shouldn’t withdraw from civil leadership, and if pacifism is a salvation…
December Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Dec 31, 2015 • 56 min
Jonathan Storment joins the show to discuss Rob Bell’s novel, the Zeitgeist of young America as communicated by Pete Holmes, Jonathan does his Scot McKnight impersonation, why young Christians aren’t interested in discussing Heaven, how Santa Clause is…
Preston Sprinkle: Fight
Dec 28, 2015 • 43 min
Dr. Preston Sprinkle joins the show to discuss a Christian response to evil, the difference between pacifism vs. non-violence, and his book Fight.
Jeff Childers: Christmas
Dec 21, 2015 • 40 min
Church Historian Dr. Jeff Childers discuss which Biblical account is the correct historical version of the birth of Jesus, the origin of Santa Clause, Christmas lights, why we give Christmas presents, and the evolution of Christmas throughout church…
Scot McKnight: The Heaven Promise
Dec 13, 2015 • 38 min
Dr. Scot McKnight returns to the show to talk all things Heaven including Heavenly Bodies, who is going to be there, how much we can really know about it, resurrection and his new book The Heaven Promise.
Pete Holmes
Dec 6, 2015 • 45 min
Comedian Pete Holmes joins the show to discuss reaching out to heathens, baptism by immersion, formation through suffering, Hell, enlightenment, truth not being fragile, coming to God through Pain, and Luke’s wedding ring.
Rob Bell: Round Three
Dec 2, 2015 • 34 min
Rob Bell returns to the show for a brief discussion on writing a novel, bowling, how leaders pass their issues onto their followers, why struggling motivational speakers are more interesting than the A-Listers and giving books away for free.
November Wrapup: Richard Beck and Larry Norsworthy
Nov 29, 2015 • 61 min
Our two favorite psychologists Luke’s Dad and Richard Beck discuss all things November from the podcast including: Doubting preachers, Brent Sullivan, 2nd Naivety, Sarah Bessey, staying at church, the importance of parenting for reconstructing faith, the…
November Mailbag
Nov 23, 2015 • 40 min
For the November Mailbag we discuss abuses of good things, Enneagram, when to leave church, engaging with those outside of Christian faith, keeping unity around LGBTQ and ignoring terrible ideas about Jonathan Storment. For more on this month’s sponsor…
N.T. Wright: Paul and His Recent Interpreters
Nov 16, 2015 • 49 min
The Bishop N.T. Wright joins the show to discuss rap music, Friday the 13th, the New Perspective on Paul, Kingdom of Heaven, and his new book Paul and His Recent Interpreters. For more on this month’s sponsor check out Eleven:28 Ministries.
Sarah Bessey: Out of Sorts
Nov 9, 2015 • 50 min
Sarah Bessey returns to the show to discuss the Second Naivety, the Top 3 Canadians, what to call N.T. Wright, returning to church, reading the Bible, Kingdom of God and her new book Out of Sorts. For more on this month’s sponsor check out Eleven:28…
Brent Sullivan
Nov 2, 2015 • 58 min
Comedian Brent Sullivan joins the show to discuss doubting pastors, Joel Osteen, evangelism, talking to Mormons, standup comedy vs. preaching, and Jesus jukes. For more on this month’s sponsor check out Eleven:28 Ministries here.
October Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Oct 30, 2015 • 60 min
Our old friend Jonathan Storment returns to the show to talk Richard Rohr, ISIS, numbing our pain, Enneagram, trusting God in death, following N.T. Wright, preaching as the first word and the final word.
James Martin: The Abbey
Oct 25, 2015 • 43 min
Fr. James Martin joins the show to discuss being the official chaplain of the Colbert Report, who gives up more Protestant pastors or Catholic priests, not sermonizing stories, tragedy, prayer, lament, images of God, Mary and his new book The Abbey.
Shane Hipps: Dogs Don’t Bark
Oct 18, 2015 • 49 min
Shane Hipps return to the show to discuss feline veterinarian medicine, The True Voice, True Self, divesting ones self of the outcomes, the preacher as first word but not the final word, and his new book Cats Don’t Bark.
Mike Cope
Oct 11, 2015 • 38 min
Mike Cope returns to the show to discuss why he’s forcing Luke to follow N.T. Wright at the 2016 Pepperdine Bible Lectures, why he loves N.T. Wright so much, preaching with a limp, the Lord’s Prayer and a better way to disagree in church. For more on the…
Richard Rohr: Round Three
Oct 4, 2015 • 65 min
Fr. Richard Rohr returns to the show to discuss the Pope’s visit to America, Mary the Mother of Jesus, male spirituality, Adam’s Return, trusting in death, Prayer and so much more.
September Mega-Wrapup
Oct 1, 2015 • 47 min
Josh Graves, Wade Hodges, Collin Packer and Jonathan Storment all join the show to discuss the hidden podcast, pacifism, patriarchy, high school diplomas, suffering well, God in creation for the September Wrapup. For more information on The National…
Diana Butler Bass: Grounded
Sep 27, 2015 • 46 min
Dr. Diana Butler Bass joins the show to discuss loving a serial killer as a neighbor , finding God in nature, and her new book Grounded.
Mark Weathers: The Chaplain Rust Cohle
Sep 21, 2015 • 45 min
The Rev. Mark Weathers joins the show to discuss being the chaplain version of True Detective’s Rust Cohle, depression, liberation theology, bullying, his time as a Roman Catholic and being a pugilist pacifist. For more on this month’s sponsor, The…
Richard Beck and Larry Norsworthy: Suffering Well
Sep 14, 2015 • 39 min
Dr. Richard Beck and Dr. Larry Norsworthy return to the show to discuss suffering well, Carl Jung, Justin Bieber and Richard’s Blog post “Neurosis is the Avoidance of Legitimate Suffering.”
Carolyn Custis James: Malestrom
Sep 7, 2015 • 46 min
Carolyn Custis James joins the show to discuss manhood, the image of God, Mother’s Day vs. Father’s Day, Patriarchy, does Christianity have a masculine feel, and her new book Malestrom.
August Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Aug 31, 2015 • 51 min
Jonathan Storment returns to the show to discuss how we understand sin, God’s Wrath, Church and Family vs. Gospel, the Church of Christ Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake, St. Kent, entitlement, gratitude, and all things August from the podcast.
Heading to ATX
Aug 30, 2015 • 33 min
Wade Hodges joins the show to talk with Luke about a major life change and what it means for the podcast. For more on Wade’s books on transition Before you Go and When to Leave click here.
Pete Enns: Round Six
Aug 24, 2015 • 52 min
Pete Holmes Enns returns to the show to discuss the tenth anniversary of Inspiration and Incarnation, trusting the Bible, moving past adolescent ways of reading the Bible, the journey, Pete’s love for the poetry of the Bible, his new website and we answer…
Becca Stevens: Letters from the Farm
Aug 17, 2015 • 42 min
Rev. Becca Stevens returns to the show to discuss some amazing stories of redemption, Love Heals, make fun of Luke, defend essential oils, the power of community, forgiveness and her new book Letters from the Farm.
Kent Brantly: Called for Life
Aug 10, 2015 • 40 min
Dr. Kent Brantly joins the show to discuss God working through Ebola, why Kent went to the White House to talk with President Obama before coming on the podcast, the fear of death, being faithful while having Ebola, the distinction between God saving his…
Brad Jersak: A More Christlike God
Aug 4, 2015 • 47 min
Dr. Brad Jersak joins the show to discuss lessons his homeland of Canada can learn about Texas, the Gospel in Chairs, laminate images over God, beauty as a criteria for truth, the most unbelievable and beautiful story about forgiveness, and his new book…
July Wrapup: Jonathan Storment
Jul 30, 2015 • 63 min
Jonathan Storment returns to the show talk about all things July from the podcast: pastors as friend or leader, throwing yourself a birthday party, the Dones, the Enneagram, moral progress and discussing racial justice as a white man.
Austin Channing
Jul 27, 2015 • 52 min
Austin Channing returns to the show to talk Black forgiveness, justice, Baltimore, Charleston, Dr. James Cone, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, the Why Christian conference, mourning, and White Supremacy while Luke tries to convince Austin that he’s not a white…
July Mailbag
Jul 23, 2015 • 37 min
For our first ever mailbag podcast we discuss living in awareness of the presence of God, V-Neck shirts, narcissistic guests, eroding morality in America, the Church’s shrinking political power, receiving communion and the Cosmic Christ.
Richard Beck
Jul 20, 2015 • 59 min
Dr. Richard Beck returns to the show to discuss his recent trip to the United Kingdom, the demise of the American Church and his athletic career, Rob Bell’s tour, the Omega Point, Humanity’s progress, public executions and Richard’s trip to Selma.
Suzanne Stabile: Enneagram
Jul 13, 2015 • 50 min
Enneagram teacher Suzanne Stabile joins the show to discuss what the Enneagram is, why Richard Rohr told her to not speak about the Enneagram for five years, why Luke doesn’t care about doing the dishes, how learning the Enneagram helps you see the world…
Josh Packard and Jeff Cook: Church Refugees
Jul 6, 2015 • 63 min
Sociologist Dr. Josh Packard along with pastor/philosopher Jeff Cook join the show to discuss why spiritual people are leaving the church, the Dones, Shadow Missions, the recent Pew Study on people leaving church, and Church Refugees. Luke also defends…
Nadia Bolz-Weber
Jul 2, 2015 • 50 min
Nadia Bolz-Weber returns to the show to discuss Luke’s visit to House for All Sinners and Saints, Nadia’s re-connection with the churches of Christ, twelve minute sermons, church plants as a birthday party you throw for yourself, well-differentiated…
June Wrapup: Paul Nevison
Jun 30, 2015 • 59 min
Paul Nevison of the Hillsong Church in Sydney, Australia, joins the show to discuss who is a bigger Richard Rohr fan, how Eucharist is the great leveler, and all things newsworthy in the June wrapup. For more on this month’s sponsor, ACU’s Graduate School…
Brian McLaren: Phyllis Tickle’s Legacy
Jun 26, 2015 • 44 min
Brian McLaren returns to the show to discuss the legacy of Phyllis Tickle, the questions that sustained the Emergence Church, Gatekeepers, The Righteous Mind, the scandal of continual incarnation, Racism, Phyllis Tickle: Evangelist of the Future and…
Tony Jones: The Legacy of Phyllis Tickle
Jun 22, 2015 • 32 min
Dr. Tony Jones returns to the show to discuss why he stopped blogging, the legacy of his friend Phyllis Tickle, Emerging Church, the five hundred year rummage sale, and Phyllis Tickle: Evangelist of the Future. For more on this month’s sponsor, ACU’s…
Pete Enns and Chris Green: The Newsworthy Games
Jun 15, 2015 • 65 min
Two of our favorite scholars, Pete Enns and Chris Green, return to the podcast to have a Hunger Games style showdown on how to read the Bible. We discuss the Historical-Grammatical approach, favoring texts, Chris Green bashes N.T. Wright (farewell Chris…
Josh Cobia: What Caitlyn Jenner taught me about Jesus
Jun 9, 2015 • 36 min
Josh Cobia, author of the viral blog post “” joins the show to discuss planting a church with the reality television stars as the first members, youth ministry at the Kardashian’s home, sharing the table with the LGBTQ community, the one thing he would…
Jonathan Martin and Ian Morgan Cron
Jun 7, 2015 • 39 min
Jonathan Martin and Ian Morgan Cron join us for another podcast from the Praxis Conference in Houston, TX. Jonathan Martin discusses the centrality of the Eucharist, the awkwardness of a preacher not preaching and Jonathan announces his new job. Ian…
Mike McHargue: Science Mike or Magic Mike?
Jun 1, 2015 • 27 min
Science Mike returns to the show to discuss why he’s been talking with people in the adult entertainment business, parenting in an age of accessible porn, and the science of viewing pornography. For more about this month’s sponsor, Abilene Christian…
May Wrapup: Sara Barton and Larry Norsworthy
May 31, 2015 • 74 min
At the 8:00 minute mark Sara Barton returns to the show to discuss breaking gender barriers, the book of James, and the grief of a missionary. At the 31:00 minute mark Luke’s Dad returns to the show to discuss all things Rob Bell and Richard Beck. We…
Holly and Zach Lind: The Wretched Desert
May 25, 2015 • 36 min
Zach Lind of the rock band Jimmy Eat World returns to the show with his wife Holly Lind to discuss the DaughterCast, Richard Beck, Taylor Swift, working with your spouse and their new project The Wretched Desert. For more on this month’s sponsor go to…
Don McLaughlin: Rethinking Women Preachers
May 19, 2015 • 37 min
Don McLaughlin returns to the show to discuss the transition from being a preacher who didn’t support women preaching to now proudly having a daughter who is a preacher.For more on this month’s sponsor go to
Josh Ross and Jonathan Storment: Bringing Heaven to Earth
May 15, 2015 • 40 min
Josh Ross and Jonathan Storment return to the show to discuss what book kept Jonathan in Church, N.T. Wright’s Surprised by Hope brought to life in Memphis and Abilene, a better story than Rapture theology, living from Resurrection, Imagination,…
Richard Beck and Rob Bell: Part Two
May 12, 2015 • 55 min
Part Two: Richard Beck and Rob Bell return to the show to discuss The Zimzum of Love & Moltmann, Eucharist as saving grace, being in the heart of the Protestant machine, the conservative evangelical church being a house of cards, table fellowship,…
Richard Beck and Rob Bell: Part One
May 7, 2015 • 50 min
Part One: Rob Bell and Richard Beck return to the show to discuss Rob’s next book, intramural rodeos, Jane Fonda vs. Sigmund Freud, teaching evolution earlier, growth by disruption, belief affirmation communities, Rob’s game plan for Love Wins, Free will…
Episode #100 with Wade Hodges
May 4, 2015 • 47 min
For a special edition 100th podcast Wade Hodges gets behind the mic to interview Luke. They discuss the Two Lukes, evolution of the shows vision, biggest mistakes, smartest guests, humor and more. This month’s sponsor is The Seattle School of Theology and…
April Wrapup: Tim Boykin and Stephen Mackey
Apr 30, 2015 • 63 min
Luke is joined by his church’s resident Pentecostal Tim Boykin and his church’s resident Wesleyan Stephen Mackey to discuss the Enneagram, images of God, online community vs. flesh and blood community, learning from criticism, the Good Samaritan, and…
Chris Green
Apr 27, 2015 • 50 min
The World’s Smartest Pentecostal ® Dr. Chris Green joins the show to discuss sacraments, being an unreliable Pentecostal, Church of Christ vs. Pentecostals, Pete Enns, how to read the Bible like Jesus, Joseph Philips, dehumanizing prayer, why God doesn’t…
Joshua Graves: How Not to Kill a Muslim
Apr 20, 2015 • 46 min
Dr. Joshua Graves returns to the show to discuss being a Jesus person who loves Muslims, life after 9/11 for Muslims, earning a technical foul in a college basketball game, Piss Christ and burning the Koran, present day Good Samaritan situations and his…
Rachel Held Evans: Searching for Sunday
Apr 13, 2015 • 56 min
Rachel Held Evans joins the show to discuss which Taylor Swift song expresses her relationship with the Evangelical church, becoming an Episcopalian, the importance of inclusion, online community vs. in the flesh community, Sin, Richard Beck and her new…
Lauren Winner: Wearing God
Apr 6, 2015 • 47 min
Dr. Lauren Winner joins the show to discuss why she doesn’t have voicemail, Duke vs. UNC, prison, the awkwardness of divine pronouns, images for God, God as abusive spouse, God as birthing mother, and her new book Wearing God.Don’t forget to check out our…
Richard Rohr: Part 2
Apr 2, 2015 • 51 min
In the second part of the conversation with Fr. Richard Rohr we discuss the Enneagram including N.T. Wright’s number, why religion makes the best of people and the worst of people, the need for change, the Cosmic Christ and more.
Jonathan Storment with Chris Seay: March Wrapup
Mar 31, 2015 • 76 min
Jonathan Storment returns to the show to discuss God’s discipline, finding God’s will, an enchanted view of the world, Internet controversy and reading scripture through Jesus. Plus Chris Seaymakes a cameo to discuss preaching to a President and the…
Richard Rohr: Part 1
Mar 26, 2015 • 54 min
Fr. Richard Rohr returns to the show to discuss why conservatives can’t tear down and liberals can’t build, faith as knowing and unknowing, his appeal to evangelical males, Non-Dual Thinking, Isis, non-violence, Sins of weakness verse Sins of Malice and…
Tony Jones: Did God Kill Jesus?
Mar 24, 2015 • 63 min
Dr. Tony Jones joins the show to discuss what Jesus’ death on the cross accomplished, managing sin, yoga pants, apologizing to your kids, sin as a condition, subjective vs. objective views of atonement and his newest book “Did God Kill Jesus?”
Peter Enns: Round Three
Mar 17, 2015 • 50 min
Dr. Peter Enns returns to the show to discuss theFive Words that Define Pete, accepting not always being right, Richard Rohr, Heaven being a lonely place, and being two Petes in one pod with Peter Rollins.
Brian Zahnd: Prayer
Mar 9, 2015 • 59 min
Brian Zahnd returns to the show to discuss learning to pray well, his love for NT Wright, what makes someone orthodox, why he doesn’t record his teachings on prayer, the way to evaluate prayer, and learning your liturgy.
John Ortberg: All the Places to Go
Mar 5, 2015 • 32 min
Pastor Dr. John Ortberg returns to the show to discuss how to make decisions, focusing on formation, the real reason his church went multi-site, making choices with others in mind, the benefit of failure, one practice that will help you become more wise…
Josh Patrick: Hope
Mar 2, 2015 • 31 min
Josh Patrick joins the show for an incredibly honest conversation about being a 35 year old father of three who was recently diagnosed with stage four-colon cancer, pain as bumping into reality, Viktor Frankl, living in the present, mental off-roading and…
February Wrapup: Larry Norsworthy
Feb 27, 2015 • 59 min
Luke’s Dad, Larry Norsworthy, returns to the show to discuss faith after cynicism, The Dark Night of the Soul, depression, Church, Barbara Brown Taylor, his love for Pete Rollins and his surprising ability to find Pete Holmes’ podcast. Plus at the end of…
A.J. Swoboda: A Glorious Dark
Feb 23, 2015 • 48 min
Dr. A.J. Swoboda joins the show to discuss the full Easter weekend experience, telemarketing, Hell, the Portland of the South, he hipster ethos, grace as a hall pass, living in the pain of Friday, awkwardness of Saturday and the joy of Sunday, and his…
Zach Lind: The Gospel According to Phil Collins
Feb 19, 2015 • 50 min
Zach Lind returns to the show to discuss the latest with his band Jimmy Eat World, Richard Rohr, Richard Beck, Christianity 21 Conference, the relationship of fear and creativity, Garth Brooks alter ego Chris Gaines, being comfortable with failure, why…
Richard Beck: The Hair Cut
Feb 16, 2015 • 63 min
Dr. Richard Beck rejoins the show to discuss the C21 conference, Gratitude. singing in a maximum security prison, Dieter Zander, crying more, turning upon celebrities, hero worship, Ash Wednesday, stacking time, the Laundromat post. and why he cut his…
Jamie Wright: The Very Worst Missionary
Feb 9, 2015 • 47 min
Jamie Wright, aka The Very Worst missionary, joins the show to discuss how to practice honesty, depression, #Blessed, who should or shouldn’t go or short-term mission trips and she finally answers if she is indeed N.T. Wright’s potty mouthed niece.
Peter Rollins: The Divine Magician
Feb 2, 2015 • 51 min
Dr. Peter Rollins returns to the show to discuss Sacred Objects, the how of belief, what church can learn from AA, Realized Eschatology, meaning, Eucharist, and his newest book “The Divine Magician.”
January Wrapup: N.T. Wright Edition with Joshua Graves and Jonathan Storment
Jan 31, 2015 • 37 min
Josh Graves and Jonathan Storment join the show to discuss all things N.T. Wright including the appeal of N.T. Wright, Skepticism vs. Evidence, Metanarrative, Post-modernity and the NBA player most comparable to N.T. Wright.
Donald Miller: Scary Close
Jan 28, 2015 • 31 min
Donald Miller joins the show to discuss life in Nashville, how his wife doesn’t complete him, knowing one’s true self, honesty, being an actor, the power of confession, the not going to church kerfuffle from last year, and his new book Scary Close.
Sean Palmer: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Jan 18, 2015 • 51 min
Special MLK Day podcast with Sean Palmer to discuss the movie Selma, Medgar Evans murder, Malcolm X, the Klan in Mississippi, Dr. King’s two assassinations, Image of God, the police, and Sean’s recent blog post Selma, Solidarity, & Whether Christians Are…
N.T. Wright: Simply Good News
Jan 17, 2015 • 60 min
Bishop N.T. Wright joins the show to discuss Good News vs. Good Advice, his hardest book to write, C.S. Lewis vs. J.R.R. Tolkien, The Colbert Report, the fifth signpost he would add to Simply Christian, Kingdom, New Creation, Hope vs. Evidence, and his…
Joshua Ryan Butler: The Skeletons in God’s Closet
Jan 12, 2015 • 56 min
Joshua Ryan Butler joins the show to discuss Heaven, Earth and Hell, foster parenting, Hell as a place you can find on Mapquest, choosing Hell, who is in and who is out and The Skeletons in God’s Closet.
Pete Scazzero: Emotionally Healthy Spirituality
Jan 5, 2015 • 43 min
Pete Scazzero joins the show to talk Emotionally Healthy Spirituality, why Christianity doesn’t always produce emotionally healthy people, hearing God in your feelings, the genogram, the importance of a theology of marriage, the crucible of church and…
Josh Graves: Looking Forward
Dec 28, 2014 • 38 min
Josh Graves return to the show for a year end show discussing the future of Christianity, lessons from Kenya and Seoul Korea, Head and Heart, Holistic Spirituality, Death and Powers, New Charismatics, Interfaith dialogue, Who is right vs. Who is most…
Sean Palmer: Lessons from Ferguson
Dec 22, 2014 • 47 min
Sean Palmer returns for a year end show to discuss lessons from Ferguson. We also touch on Serial, how a preacher and a church should discuss real stuff, learning to think theologically versus where God comes down on an issue, Aunt Barb, and Kent Brantley.
Jonathan Storment: Torture
Dec 19, 2014 • 39 min
Jonathan Storment returns to have a year end conversation on torture, his Anabaptist influence, the churches place in the conversation, his favorite guests from the year, and Jonathan claims that he came up with the phrase “grace is an indictment.”
Warren Throckmorton: Lessons from Mars Hills
Dec 18, 2014 • 30 min
Dr. Warren Throckmorton joins the show to discuss lessons learned from Mars Hill’s demise, the problems that can arise when churches focus on numbers, and the fundamental attribution error.
Derek Flood: Disarming Scripture
Dec 17, 2014 • 47 min
Derek Flood joins the show for a discussion of conquest narratives, how we read the Bible, seeing the Bible as a multivocal, trajectory reading and his new book Disarming Scripture.
Becca Stevens: The Way of Tea and Justice
Dec 10, 2014 • 61 min
Becca Stevens joins the show to discuss bringing redemption into the world of addiction and prostitution, loving the world instead of changing the world, her love of math, keeping the faith, and The Way of Tea and Justice.
Larry James
Dec 3, 2014 • 46 min
Larry James, CEO and President of CitySquare joins the show to talk about The Wealth of the Poor,Ferguson, the importance of relationships across racial lines, personal responsibility verses systemic change, how people can get involved in the life of the…