Into the Zone

Into the Zone
Into the Zone is a podcast about opposites, and how borders are never as clear as we think. With a novelist’s eye for the unexpected, host Hari Kunzru takes the listener around the world, meeting philosophers and punk musicians, New Age gurus and space explorers, to investigate the gray zone between life and death, public and private, black and white, and more.

Dead or Alive
Oct 15 • 51 min
Life’s final border might not be so final after all. From tardigrades to viruses, some things are both dead and alive. Or neither. How do we draw the line between the living and the dead? And how does that line blur in places like in a time capsule buried…
When We Were Cyber
Oct 8 • 48 min
Cyborgs, cyberspace, mind-melting techno. In the mid-’90s, the future had arrived. To find out what happened to it, Hari pays a visit to philosopher Manuel DeLanda, and to the legendary artist ORLAN, who he first encountered at an academic conference like…
The Ghost in the Codec
Oct 1 • 44 min
At the dawn of the digital era, a group of engineers tasked with audio compression had to decide what information to keep, and what to leave behind. What was signal, and what was noise? Fast forward two decades, to our much noisier world. Hari finds a…
Never Mind the Stasi
Sep 24 • 54 min
East Berlin, 1983. A teenage punk rocker finds himself in a Stasi interrogation cell. The choice is simple: inform on his friends, or go to prison. Hari travels to Berlin to meet the punks and spies whose cat and mouse game in the last years of the GDR…
It’s Always Sunny in the Dialectic
Sep 17 • 52 min
Look on the bright side! In a country obsessed with positivity, Hari traces the path of exiled German intellectual Theodor Adorno to sunny California, where he gets stuck in traffic with the British writer Geoff Dyer. How this positivity relates to church…
The Guru of Ojai
Sep 10 • 52 min
In the 1920s, a messianic visitor to Hari’s family home unveils the connection between Indian Independence movement and the astral plane. Nearly a century later, Hari travels to the orange groves of Southern California, where the guru made his home, to…
That Ain’t Country
Sep 3 • 47 min
Country? Rap? Lil Nas X’s chart-topping “Old Town Road” revived a long debate about borders and boundaries in American popular music. To sort out this strange history, Hari heads down to the foothills of Virginia, where a legendary collection of blues…
Druid Like Me
Sep 3 • 55 min
Hari’s visit to Stonehenge on the solstice prompts an investigation into the gray zone between being a native and a migrant, and his memories of growing up in Essex during the Thatcher years. He also tracks down an old friend, whose work with Harvard…
Introducing Into the Zone
Aug 24 • 2 min
Hosted by novelist Hari Kunzru, Into the Zone is a new podcast about opposites, and how borders are never as clear as we think. Coming September 3, 2020 from Pushkin Industries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit