Between Two Curators

Between Two Curators

Join curators Jenn Ellis and Cliff Lauson as their love of all things artistic, inspirational, and creative connects them to amazing people. From art to astrophysics, and food to feng shui, they are on a mission to find out what makes creative people t…


Creating Jaw-Dropping Visuals with Mega-Designer Es Devlin
Aug 5 • 40 min
We kick off Season Two with Es Devlin, who let us into her world of mind-blowing visual concepts for events, performances, exhibitions, and concerts. She tells us about her approach to choreographing space, the porosity between digital and physical, and…
Season One Hilarity and Highlights
Jul 15 • 36 min
In this episode, we are without guest! We take a moment to look back and reflect on some of the highlights and shared themes that have emerged from our first ten episodes. From care for others to authentic selves, from tasting culinary delights to…
Fabricating Reality in Hollywood Movies with Visual Effects Supervisor Julian Foddy
Jul 8 • 38 min
Julian Foddy takes us behind the scenes of major film and TV productions to explain how their visual effects are made. He tells us about “fixing it in post-”, the latest virtual set technology, and how he once got stressed about the size of Spiderman’s…
Making Music Bigger Than the Genre with Grime MC Maxsta
Jul 1 • 39 min
We have an open and frank conversation with Maxsta about the pressures of the music industry, moving beyond “macho rap vibes”, and how to cold-call your idols. Maxsta is a British musician, grime MC, and producer whose unique sound has earned him…
Looking for “Incredibly Tiny” Particles with Quantum Physicist Ben Allanach
Jun 24 • 33 min
We have a fascinating conversation with Ben Allanach about his quest to find new particles and forces (Z-Primes anyone?) by smashing together other particles, how science is both beautiful and creative, and how he became involved with an intergalactic…
On being human and belonging to humanity with communicator Keshia Hannam
Jun 17 • 36 min
Keshia Hannam is an inspired raconteur - whether it’s speaking at the United Nations, advocating for equality and sustainability, or explaining how to ditch the insurance business and pursue a career you actually love! Keshia leads workshops around the…
Living the Sweat Life with Yoga Teacher, Will Wheeler
Jun 10 • 28 min
We chat to Will Wheeler about founding Level Six Studios in Peckham, London, and making yoga accessible to everyone. We also delve into what yoga means off the mat, spirituality in modern practice, plus a little advice on how to find new students in the…
Elevating Eating with Food Designer and Chef Imogen Kwok
Jun 3 • 31 min
We take a deep-dive into food with Imogen Kwok: its ability to bring us together, its potential as an artistic medium, and why chefs are obsessed with tweezers. A classically-trained chef with a degree in art history, Imogen successfully combines the…
Defining Style in Fashion (and Food) with Jason Basmajian
May 27 • 36 min
Creative Chief Officer, Jason Basmajian shares his thoughts on artistic cross-pollination, finding ways of keeping it fresh, and how to be generous when surrounded by fashionistas.Jason has led the creative direction of major fashion brands such as…
Samantha Holdsworth, co-founder of Nimble Fish, founder of Clowns without Borders UK
May 20 • 29 min
Educator, producer, and facilitator Samantha Holdsworth tells us about the downright inspiring creative work she does with young people, how art can be used for social change, and why clowns are not — repeat, not — scary.Co-founded with Greg Klerkx in…
Ab Rogers, Creative Director of Ab Rogers Design
May 14 • 28 min
London-based designer Ab Rogers tells us about his passion for colour, why design and architecture should be fun, and how to cook with toddlers. Ab Rogers Design, London/Melbourne, is an architecture and design practice that has created some of the most…
Curators Talking About Curating
May 11 • 31 min
Just what the heck is curating anyway? In their premiere episode, Jenn and Cliff talk about working with art and artists from two very different career perspectives. With a good dose of humour, they reflect on communicating and facilitating creative…