Burn the Boats

Burn the Boats

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When failure is not an option.


MJ Hegar: Campaign Like a Girl
Oct 21 • 29 min
MJ Hegar, Democratic candidate for Senate in Texas, talks about her campaign, what drove her to run in the first place, and the prejudiced responses she sometimes gets to the Purple Heart on her license plate. MJ is an Air Force veteran, author of the…
Rep. Tim Ryan: Politics and Mindfulness
Oct 7 • 27 min
Rep. Tim Ryan talks politics - Trump, Ohio, and Tim’s current reelection campaign. He also talks about something he wishes all politicians would practice: mindfulness. Tim is a United States Congressman representing Ohio’s 13th district. Learn more about…
Rep. Cheri Bustos: Legislating by Listening
Sep 23 • 37 min
Representative Cheri Bustos, congresswoman from Illinois and chair of the DCCC, talks about the values that women bring to leadership and about winning as a Democrat in a district that also voted for Trump. Learn more about Rep. Bustos’s legislative…
Bonus: Sec. Leon Panetta and the Anniversary of 9/11
Sep 11 • 28 min
In this bonus episode of Burn the Boats, Sec. Leon Panetta talks about the ultimate tough decision: as Director of the CIA, Panetta oversaw the operation that killed Osama Bin Laden, launching a raid into Pakistan based on uncertain intelligence. He talks…
Anthony Scaramucci: Room on the Off Ramp
Sep 9 • 41 min
Anthony Scaramucci talks about his brief tenure as the White House Communications Director and his recent decision to denounce Trump, as well as his journey from working class to Goldman Sachs and the White House. Find Anthony on Twitter at @scaramucci.
Swati Mylavarapu: Making Politics Accessible
Aug 26 • 38 min
Swati Mylavarapu is a major voice in Silicon Valley who has turned her talents to politics and social change. Pete Buttigieg’s chief investment officer and founder of Incite.org and the Arena, Swati talks to Ken about campaign finance and about diving…
Andrew Towne: Modern-Day Adventurer
Aug 12 • 35 min
Andrew Towne, endurance athlete and principal with the Boston Consulting Group, has climbed the tallest mountain on every continent - including Mount Everest, and rowed the Drake Passage with the Discovery Channel series The Impossible Row. He talks about…
Bonus: Gen. Stanley McChrystal on Confederate Symbols
Aug 5 • 15 min
In this bonus episode of Burn the Boats, Gen. Stanley McChrystal reflects on his formerly-beloved painting of Robert E. Lee and his perspective on Confederate symbols. The Atlantic op-ed that Ken reads from in this episode is titled “At 63, I Threw Away…
Pete Buttigieg: On Moving Forward
Jul 29 • 48 min
Pete Buttigieg, former candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, talks about his campaign and the choice to end it, patriotism and hopes for the future of our country, and the need for America to rebuild trust. Learn more about Pete’s new PAC…
Max Rose and Ali Soufan: Fighting White Supremacist Terrorism
Jul 15 • 45 min
US Representative Max Rose and counterterrorism expert Ali Soufan talk about the work they’re doing to address the threat of transnational violent white supremacist groups in the United States and across the world. Max is a Congressman representing New…
Sarah Longwell: How to Save the GOP
Jul 1 • 36 min
Sarah Longwell, publisher of the Bulwark and co-founder of Republicans for the Rule of Law, talks about being a staunchly “Never Trump” Republican and about what the future of her party looks like. Sarah is the publisher of the Bulwark, co-founder of…
Pride Month: Gina Ortiz Jones
Jun 24 • 27 min
This rerun in honor of Pride month features a conversation with Gina Ortiz Jones, Democratic candidate for Congress in Texas’s 23rd district, about the challenges of being a gay service member under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, as well as her difficult race to…
Fred Guttenberg: Father of Two
Jun 17 • 39 min
Fred Guttenberg, gun safety advocate whose daughter Jaime was killed at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, talks about how the loss of his daughter drives him, what changes must be made to ensure safer gun laws, and what draws Americans to…
Mansoor Shams: Muslim Marine
Jun 3 • 36 min
Mansoor Shams, founder of MuslimMarine.org, talks about both his good and bad experiences as a Muslim in the US Marine Corps, about patriotism in today’s America, and about making his life’s mission opening the minds of others. Mansoor is a veteran,…
Soledad O’Brien: Journalism’s ‘Tough Love’ Critic
May 20 • 42 min
Award-winning journalist Soledad O’Brien talks about the current news landscape, what success means in journalism, and her flexibility and optimism in seizing new opportunities. Soledad is the CEO of Starfish Media Group and host of Matter of Fact, airing…
Amy McGrath: From the Marine Corps to the Campaign Trail
May 6 • 35 min
Amy McGrath, candidate for the US Senate seat in Kentucky, talks about the state of the Senate under her opponent Mitch McConnell, about her experiences campaigning in such a high-profile race, and about how her days as a fighter pilot informed her…
Joe Sanberg: Seeking Financial Security for All
Apr 22 • 25 min
Joe Sanberg, progressive entrepreneur and investor in Los Angeles, talks about his work to end poverty, his personal connection to the cause, and about the role of both politics and faith in how Americans think about economics.
Patrick Murphy: Constitutional Crisis and the US Military
Apr 8 • 31 min
The Honorable Patrick Murphy talks about the role of the military in American democracy, about his leadership in getting Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell repealed, and about the challenge that servicemembers face when their oaths to the Constitution conflict with…
Ryan Manion: Harnessing Grief to Do Good
Mar 25 • 33 min
Ryan Manion, president of the Travis Manion Foundation, talks about losing her brother to war, about her own PTSD diagnosis, and about harnessing her brother’s memory to do good.
Voting Rights Special with Demos and the ACLU
Mar 11 • 36 min
Naila Awan from Demos and Ben Guess from the ACLU of Ohio talk about the importance of full voting rights for all and the work they are each doing to achieve that.
Shannon Watts and Casey Weinstein: The Dangers of Fighting for Gun Safety
Feb 26 • 46 min
Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action, and Casey Weinstein, state representative for Ohio’s District 37, talk about gun safety and the intimidation they have received for standing up for what they believe.
Paul Rieckhoff: The Power of Righteous Anger
Feb 12 • 32 min
Paul Rieckhoff, host of the Angry Americans podcast, talks about being an independent in today’s political climate, about the role of veterans in our country, and about anger as a political force.
Bill Kristol: The Crisis within the Republican Party
Jan 29 • 29 min
Bill Kristol, founder of The Weekly Standard and chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle under George H. W. Bush, talks about the current state of the Republican party, how it got there, and his bipartisan push for political decency.
Mary Beth Bruggeman: Inclusion, Leadership, and Service
Jan 15 • 36 min
Mary Beth Bruggeman, the president of The Mission Continues, talks about her experiences as a woman in the Marine Corps, about the responsibility of teaching military leadership in wartime, and about the work TMC does to harness the energy and skills of…
Bonus: Adam Frankel on Writing for Obama
Jan 1 • 9 min
In this bonus episode, Ken continues his conversation with Adam Frankel, talking about what it was like to write speeches for President Obama.
Adam Frankel: Healing Family Trauma through Honesty
Dec 18, 2019 • 30 min
Adam Frankel, former speechwriter for President Obama and author of a new memoir, The Survivors, talks about generational trauma - from his grandparents’ experiences in the Holocaust to his mother’s struggles with mental illness and a revelation about…
Bonus: The Rights of American Samoans
Dec 12, 2019 • 19 min
In this bonus episode of Burn the Boats, Staff Sergeant Jeniffer Afualo-Robinson talks about losing her security clearance and, with it, a pathway to career advancement, just because she was born in American Samoa. Find Equally American at…
Joe Sestak: Individual Rights and the Common Good
Dec 11, 2019 • 29 min
Joe Sestak, retired 3-star Admiral in the US Navy and former candidate for president, talks about the similarities between the Navy and the campaign trail, about his daughter’s illness inspiring him to run for office, and about a pilot under his command…
Gina Ortiz Jones: Overcoming Barriers to Serve Her Country
Dec 4, 2019 • 27 min
Gina Ortiz Jones, veteran and Congressional candidate in Texas’s 23rd district, talks about the decision her mother made to immigrate to the US, the challenges of being an LGBT service member under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and her race to represent her…
Mikie Sherrill: Challenging Authority and Reaching Across the Aisle
Nov 27, 2019 • 27 min
Mikie Sherrill, Representative for New Jersey’s 11th Congressional District, discusses the challenges of pushing back against leadership and reaching across the aisle to do what is best for her district and the country. Follow Mikie on Twitter at…
Michael Gerson: Faith, Friendship, and Empathy in Today’s Political Climate
Nov 20, 2019 • 40 min
Michael Gerson was a presidential speechwriter for George W. Bush and is now a powerful voice of dissent in the Republican establishment. Michael talks to Ken about what led him down this path of dissent, about the role of faith in motivating his decision…
Coming Soon!
Oct 29, 2019 • 2 min
Burn the Boats is a podcast about big decisions, those we face when failure is not an option. Decisions like Alexander the Great made when he landed his troops on the shores of Persia and ordered his men to burn their boats. Listen as Ken Harbaugh…