Host Debra Rienstra interviews a different guest each week, exploring the idea of refugia from a variety of perspectives, from biology to worship to politics. Refugia are places of shelter where life endures in times of crisis. We’re exploring what it means for people of faith to be people of refugia.

#5 New Generation Rising: Kyle Meyaard-Schaap on Young Evangelicals and the Climate Crisis
Oct 11 • 37 min
Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, National Organizer and Spokesperson for Young Evangelicals for Climate Action, takes stock of how the church is doing in addressing climate change and describes how young Christians are leading the way, finding refugia through…
#4 Sacred Vessels: Jo-Ann Van Reeuwyk on the Arts, the Holy Spirit, and Sanctuary Spaces
Oct 4 • 36 min
Studio artist and art educator Jo-Ann Van Reeuwyk reflects on art and risk-taking, sacred spaces pedagogy, vessels, and pokey things. —- Send in a voice message:
#3 Seedbed to Be a Blessing: Steve Bouma-Prediger on Refugia in Scripture
Sep 27 • 42 min
Steve Bouma-Prediger, professor of religion at Hope College and “ecotheologian,” reflects on examples of refugia in the Bible and the virtues necessary to fulfill our God-given, human responsibility to the earth. —- Send in a voice message:…
#2 The Great Laughter: Jamie Skillen on Humility and Hope
Sep 20 • 34 min
Jamie Skillen, professor of environmental studies at Calvin University, overviews the sometimes tense relationship between Christianity and environmentalism and urges us to aspire toward an “eschatological stewardship.” —- Send in a voice message:…
#1 Little Pockets: Dave Koetje and Defining Our Terms
Sep 6 • 22 min
Dave Koetje, professor of biology at Calvin University, helps lay the groundwork with some definitions. —- Send in a voice message: