Host Debra Rienstra interviews a different guest each week, exploring the idea of refugia from a variety of perspectives, from biology to worship to politics. Refugia are places of shelter where life endures in times of crisis. We’re exploring what it means for people of faith to be people of refugia.

#13 Important Dying: Dave Koetje and Summing Up the Refugia Series
Dec 6, 2019 • 38 min
Biologist Dave Koetje returns to reflect with host Debra Rienstra on everything we’ve learned over the course of the last twelve episodes. —- Send in a voice message:
#12 Baselines and Soul Work: Hillary Scholten on Immigration Reform and the Urgency of Creating Good Policy
Nov 29, 2019 • 26 min
Hillary Scholten, an attorney who worked for the DOJ under President Obama and then provided legal representation for migrant workers in Michigan, considers how government policy, people of faith, and the larger community can intersect to create healing…
#11 Jazz on the Dunes: David Jellema and the Colony at Lost Valley
Nov 22, 2019 • 41 min
In this episode, we travel out to the shore of Lake Michigan and back in time. Jazz musician David Jellema recounts the history of the “artist intelligentsia retreat” founded by his father and uncle. —- Send in a voice message:…
#10 Do the Next Right Thing: Kate Kooyman on Refuge, Refugees, and Stewarding Citizenship
Nov 15, 2019 • 41 min
A pastor and education team leader at the Christian Reformed Church’s Office of Social Justice, Kate Kooyman sorts out some confusing matters of immigration policy and explores how people of faith help immigrants and refugees go beyond refuge to community…
#9 Keep All the Pieces: Tim Van Deelen on Wildlife Conservation and the Ghost of Aldo Leopold
Nov 8, 2019 • 50 min
Tim Van Deelen, professor of wildlife ecology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, explains how the term refugia is used in the context of wildlife conservation, along the way telling stories about grizzlies, black-footed ferrets, wolves, and Aldo…
#8 Dying and Rising: Jeff Chu on Composting, Evolving Faith, and Pop-Up Refugia
Nov 1, 2019 • 37 min
Journalist and recent seminary graduate Jeff Chu ponders the intersection of theology and farming. He also describes the Evolving Faith Conference and other places of healing and fresh imagination for people who are, for whatever reason, feeling on the…
#7 Through Pain to Freedom: John Witvliet on Prayer, Lament, and Refugia in Worship
Oct 25, 2019 • 31 min
John Witvliet, Director of the Calvin Institute of Christian Worship, explores how Christians can create refugia spaces in worship through thoughtful public prayer and courageous practices of lament. —- Send in a voice message:…
#6 Kitchen Table Refugia: Christina Edmondson on Higher Education, Social Media, and Discipleship for Discernment
Oct 18, 2019 • 40 min
Dean for Intercultural Student Development at Calvin University and co-host of the Truth’s Table podcast, Christina Edmondson reflects on the potential for refugia on college campuses and on the virtues and difficulties of virtual refugia. —- Send in a…
#5 New Generation Rising: Kyle Meyaard-Schaap on Young Evangelicals and the Climate Crisis
Oct 11, 2019 • 37 min
Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, National Organizer and Spokesperson for Young Evangelicals for Climate Action, takes stock of how the church is doing in addressing climate change and describes how young Christians are leading the way, finding refugia through…
#4 Sacred Vessels: Jo-Ann Van Reeuwyk on the Arts, the Holy Spirit, and Sanctuary Spaces
Oct 4, 2019 • 36 min
Studio artist and art educator Jo-Ann Van Reeuwyk reflects on art and risk-taking, sacred spaces pedagogy, vessels, and pokey things. —- Send in a voice message:
#3 Seedbed to Be a Blessing: Steve Bouma-Prediger on Refugia in Scripture
Sep 27, 2019 • 42 min
Steve Bouma-Prediger, professor of religion at Hope College and “ecotheologian,” reflects on examples of refugia in the Bible and the virtues necessary to fulfill our God-given, human responsibility to the earth. —- Send in a voice message:…
#2 The Great Laughter: Jamie Skillen on Humility and Hope
Sep 20, 2019 • 34 min
Jamie Skillen, professor of environmental studies at Calvin University, overviews the sometimes tense relationship between Christianity and environmentalism and urges us to aspire toward an “eschatological stewardship.” —- Send in a voice message:…
#1 Little Pockets: Dave Koetje and Defining Our Terms
Sep 6, 2019 • 22 min
Dave Koetje, professor of biology at Calvin University, helps lay the groundwork with some definitions. —- Send in a voice message: