Behaviorbabe (aka Dr. Amanda Kelly) is an ethical advocate for the accurate dissemination and application of behavior analysis. Dr. Kelly is a PhD-level, Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA-D); the first to be licensed in the state of Hawai’i. This podcast features conversations, discussions, and brief presentations by Dr. Kelly related to behavior analysis, education, sustainability, public policy, and more. For more great info, visit

Christine Almeida on ABA and Public Preschools
Nov 12 • 31 min
In this episode, Christine Almeida discusses ABA and Public Preschools. Christine describes the supports and services she oversees in public school in Newton, Massachusetts. In addition, Christine spends some time discussing how to assess and teach social…
Shannon Biagi on OBM
Nov 10 • 22 min
In this episode, Shannon Biagi joins Dr. Kelly to discuss Organizational Behavior Management (OBM): what it is and what it is not. Shannon describes for listeners some parallels between clinical practice and OBM endeavors: such as the focus on behaviors…
Carter Keegan on Life on the Spectrum
Nov 6 • 23 min
This episode features a very special guest, Carter Keegan. Carter is a young adult with autism who shares with us his journey: from diagnosis to driving, to dating, going to college, and everything in between.
Dr. Antonio Harrison on Turning On the Lights
Nov 5 • 39 min
In this episode, Dr. Antonio Harrison discusses with Dr. Kelly difficult topics; such as diversity, discrimination, and debating divorce with ones own dream. Dr. Harrison discusses his open letter to behavior analysis, including his ideas on how we can…
Dr. Tyra Sellers on Supervision & Stopping to Smell the Roses
Nov 3 • 34 min
In this episode, Dr. Tyra Sellers joins Dr. Kelly to discuss supervision in behavior analysis. Dr. Sellers addresses topics such as what we mean by supervision and who needs a supervisor, as well as, what a supervisor needs to know how to do, which…
Science or Pseudoscience?
Nov 3 • 17 min
Dr. Kelly describes some clear indicators, which are cause for concern when evaluating treatment options. Whether we are talking about autism interventions, weight loss approaches, or ways to decrease baldness, there are many imposters out there! Dr.…
Reinforcement or Punishment
Nov 2 • 7 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly describes the differences between reinforcement and punishment. She provides examples of both positive and negative reinforcement as well as positive and negative punishment. To learn more visit
Dr. Mary Barbera on Turning Autism Around
Oct 31 • 32 min
In this episode, Dr. Mary Barbera joins Dr. Kelly and discusses her mission to “Turn Autism Around”. Dr. Barbera shares her personal journey as a mom to a (now adult) son on the autism spectrum. She also shares with listeners her mission to help 2 MILLION…
Dr. Rob Pennington on Part Time Lovers
Oct 30 • 33 min
Dr. Rob Pennington joins Dr. Kelly to discuss important trends in teacher education. On this episode, Dr. Pennington shares common barriers that ail our public school systems. He shares lessons learned while drawing from personal experience to offer…
ABA and the Earth
Oct 29 • 12 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly looks at science and sustainability. Inspiring us to take what we know about behavior change to make the world a better place. Learn more at
Importance of Advocacy and Dissemination Efforts
Oct 28 • 6 min
Hear Dr. Kelly’s thoughts on the importance of being involved in advocacy and the dissemination of behavior analysis. Being involved in the discussions will ensure behavior analysts are defining the practice and not others. Uphold the ethics and rigor of…
Molly Benson on Sustainability and Public Policy
Oct 28 • 22 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses the topics of sustainability and public policy with guest, Molly Benson. Molly chronicles her “competency-based adventures” and shares highlights from her journey. Interested in branching out and applying behavioral…
Dr. Rick Kubina on the Power of Precision Teaching
Oct 23 • 37 min
In this episode, Dr. Rick Kubina joins Dr. Kelly to discuss precision teaching; why it’s useful and what makes him so passionate about the science. Together, they review the barriers and benefits to dissemination, the value of standardizing measurement,…
Elizabeth Drago on ABA in New York
Oct 23 • 24 min
Elizabeth joins Dr. Kelly to discuss the current restrictions for behavior analysts practicing in New York. Without a revision to current legislation, behavior analysts will continue to be limited to working exclusively with those on the autism spectrum,…
Quality Indicators of an ABA Program
Oct 21 • 7 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly reviews 30 Quality Indicators of an ABA program. To access additional resources on this topic, visit
Presession Pairing
Oct 18 • 9 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses her dissertation research and details her investigation on the effects of presession pairing. To learn more visit:
Janice Chan on Classroom PRT (CPRT)
Oct 15 • 20 min
In this episode Janice Chan sits down with Dr. Kelly to discuss classroom Pivotal Response Training. In this episode, Janice shares similarities and differences between a DTT and PRT approach to instruction. Janice also describes some strategies for…
Translating Technical ABA into Everyday
Oct 12 • 7 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly talks about the challenges behavior analysts face when switching between a technical and conversational description of ABA. Learn more at
Lara Bollinger on Life as a BCBA In Law School
Oct 10 • 5 min
This episode features a guest speaker, Lara Bollinger. Lara is a BCBA with experience working in Massachusetts, Hawai’i, and Virginia. She is currently Licensed as a Behavior Analyst in Hawai’i and Virginia. She is also currently enrolled in law school.…
Dr. Calkin on Inner Behavior
Oct 6 • 31 min
In this episode, Dr. Abigail Calkin shares with Dr. Kelly her journey with behavior analysis studying inner behavior. Having been a student and colleague of Dr. Ogden Lindsley, Abigail learned first hand the value of the standard celeration chart and…
Functions of Behavior
Oct 4 • 9 min
Dr. Kelly discusses briefly the ABCs of ABA and explains the four functions of behavior. To learn more visit
Ashley Rose on Teaching Social Skills
Oct 1 • 27 min
In this episode, Ashley Rose joins Dr. Kelly to talk about teaching social skills and not taking ourselves too seriously. Ashley offers listeners a definition of social skills, some suggestions for effective facilitation, and how to play, pair, and…
Top 10 Tips for Teachers
Sep 29 • 11 min
Behavior management in the classroom is a skill that takes years to develop. In this episode, Dr. Kelly will review her top 10 tips for Teachers, based on her experiences as a teacher and behavior analyst. For more information visit
Science According to Skinner
Sep 25 • 9 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly brings us back to our roots and reads us some Skinner quotes, specifically related to science and our roles as scientists from his text “Science and Human Behavior”. For more information about B.F. Skinner check out the B.F.…
ADHD and Anxiety
Sep 23 • 14 min
While medications are often prescribed for children with ADHD or anxiety, the first line of treatment recommended by the Center for Disease Control (CDC) is behavioral therapy. To learn more visit
Being both a mentor and mentee
Sep 21 • 11 min
Dr. Kelly sends an extra special congrats to our most recently certified analysts, specifically Jennifer Lonardo, BCBA! She also shares her experiences, and describes how one can be both a (lifelong) mentor and mentee!
Becoming a Behavior Analyst - My Story
Sep 20 • 9 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly shares her journey to becoming a behavior analyst. To learn more about applied behavior analysis, visit
Dr. Bobby Newman on The Ethics of Popularizing our Profession
Sep 18 • 51 min
In this episode, Dr. Bobby Newman speaks with Dr. Kelly about the ethics of using testimonials to promote our profession. Dr. Newman outlines times when behavior analysts should and should not use testimonials as a way to popularize our profession. Dr.…
Kate Disney on Accessing ABA for Military Families
Sep 17 • 31 min
In this episode Kate Disney, a mother, veteran, nurse, and military spouse offers her unique perspective on accessing ABA as a military family. Kate speaks with Dr. Kelly on the unavoidable and avoidable aspects associated with transitions, moves, and…
Shari Adler on Trauma Informed Treatment
Sep 15 • 21 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses trauma informed treatment with Shari Adler. Shari provides listeners with definitions, descriptions, and an in-depth discussion on the topic of trauma informed care.
Dr. Jonathan Tarbox on ACT & Creating Kindness
Sep 9 • 36 min
In this episode, Dr. Jonathan Tarbox joins Dr. Kelly to discuss Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), as well as how to empirically evaluate kindness when working with clients. Jonathan provides an overview of ACT, offers suggestions for readings, and…
Behaviorbabe on Accruing Continuing Education Units (CEU)
Sep 8 • 20 min
In this episode Dr. Kelly describes the seven different qualifying categories continuing education for behavior analysts. Dr. Kelly shares her total number of CEUs from her latest 2 year certification cycle, as well a breakdown on the number of CEUs…
ABA in Schools
Sep 7 • 12 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly provides an overview of applied behavior analysis in the school setting. Dr. Kelly provides resources related to successful integration of ABA in schools and provides examples of how ABA can be embedded in classroom settings.
Leanne Page on Parenting with ABA
Sep 6 • 17 min
In this episode, Leanne Page from “Parenting with ABA” sits down with Dr. Kelly. Leanne talks about parenting advice and how much of it relies on punishment and is often based on our own experiences. Through her dissemination and education efforts, Leanne…
Dr. Crone-Todd on Gaslighting
Sep 4 • 23 min
In this episode Dr. Darlene Crone-Todd speaks on gaslighting from a behavior analytic lens. Dr. Crone-Todd and Dr. Kelly discuss the ethics of behavior change and gaslighting within organizational systems. Other topics also discussed include the research…
Sasha Long - The Autism Helper
Aug 27 • 27 min
In this episode, Sasha Long joins Dr. Kelly to discuss how to best support teachers and students in our public schools. Sasha’s background as an educator led to her career as a behavior analyst. Sasha details her journey, where she struggled, and how she…
Feda Almaliti on Creating Sub-Specialties in ABA and on the Treatment of Severe Behavior
Aug 22 • 30 min
In this episode, Feda Almaliti joins Dr. Kelly to speak on the need for specialization within the field of behavior analysis. Feda shares from her own experiences as an autism mother, insurance champion, and legislative advocate the need for further…
Developing a Philosophy of Education
Aug 22 • 15 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses the process of developing a philosophy of education. She describes how this process will be shaped by your own educational experiences and will evolve over time. In this episode, Dr. Kelly shares her personal…
Lorri Unumb on Autism Insurance and Adult Services
Aug 19 • 26 min
In this episode, Lorri Unumb, Vice President of Governmental Affairs from Autism Speaks, talks with Dr. Kelly about Autism Insurance and creating vocational options for adults. Lorri offers perspective and insight into past legislative efforts as well as…
Dr. Becca Tagg on Being Dually Certified
Aug 17 • 22 min
In this episode, Dr. Becca Tagg discusses her journey as a scientist, dually-licensed as a psychologist and behavior analyst. Dr. Kelly and Dr. Tagg discuss the value of creating a verbal community and the importance of self care. To learn more, visit…
Dr. Ellie Kazemi on the Function of Supervision
Aug 12 • 35 min
In this episode, Dr. Ellie Kazemi returns as a guest to discuss the topic of supervision in-depth with Dr. Kelly. Discussions include empowering students, connecting with them, helping them highlight their strengths and become aware of their weaknesses.…
Inclusion with Chrissy Kelly
Aug 11 • 19 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly interviews Chrissy Kelly, creator of “Life with Greyson and Parker” about inclusion. What is inclusion? What is needed to make inclusion a success? Where do you begin? For more information, check out Chrissy on Facebook at…
Dr. Kelly on Delving Deeper into Public Policy
Aug 8 • 42 min
In this special edition, Dr. Ellie Kazemi interviews Dr. Amanda Kelly (Behaviorbabe) on her advocacy efforts. Dr. Kelly speaks to her journey and how she developed expertise in influencing public policy as a behavior analyst. Dr. Kazemi and Dr. Kelly…
Behaviorbabe on What Students Should Read
Aug 7 • 17 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly offers some suggestions for students studying behavior analysis. From the 7 Dimensions (1968, 1987) to The Rights to Effective Behavioral Treatment (1988), Dr. Kelly suggests articles. In addition, Dr. Kelly offers suggestions…
Kristen and Erin on Being Honest, Humble, Human
Jul 29 • 32 min
In this episode, Kristen Lancaster (she/her) and Erin Donovan (they/them) join Dr. Kelly (she/her) to discuss taking a values-based approach to everything we do. In this episode, Kristen and Erin share their thoughts and experiences with creating…
Teaching Vocational Skills
Jul 24 • 13 min
Dr. Kelly reviews some tips and techniques for preparing learners (and ourselves) for vocational settings. To learn more, visit
Josh Cobbs on Advocacy, Parenting, and Putting Joy into Life
Jul 14 • 23 min
In this episode, Josh Cobbs joins Dr. Kelly and shares his journey in the world of advocacy and parenting. Josh shares his self-care strategies as well as his no nonsense “nothing will stop me” attitude, which led to the creation of his company, Joyency.…
Brandon Franklin on Reducing Suspensions in School Settings
Jul 9 • 33 min
In this episode, Brandon discusses with Dr. Kelly the role his team plays in Louisville Public Schools. Brandon explains how “everything is legit behavior” and how he has found success as a district-wide public school consultant. Brandon shares with…
Dr. Markovits on Making the Most of Online Instruction
Jul 8 • 26 min
In this episode, Dr. Becky Markovits talks with Dr. Kelly about how students can make the most of online instruction. Dr. Markovits identifies some barriers (e.g., decreased contact with professor) and benefits (e.g., flexibility), as well as some…
How to Get ABA on Your IEP
Jul 7 • 17 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses some federal laws and protections afforded for students with behavioral needs. Dr. Kelly provides information and insights based on her experiences as a licensed behavior analyst and licensed elementary educator.…
Ethics and ABA
Jul 5 • 5 min
In this episode Dr. Kelly explains how a formula is needed when confronting ethical dilemmas as they are rarely ever black or white. What do you do when one code element appears to conflict with another? Join us for a quick, yet deep discussion on ethics…
Why Don’t We Participate in Public Policy
Jul 3 • 13 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly seeks to answer the question, “Why don’t behavior analyst participate in public policy more than we do”. Dr. Kelly details problems with participation and offers a behavior analytic approach to addressing these barriers. To…
Tori Sims on Supervision
Jul 3 • 21 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly interviews Tori Sims about the role of a newly certified supervisor. Tori shares with us the difficulties, differences, and strategies for success when supervising others; whether they are seeking ABA certification or are…
What is ABA | 7 Dimensions
Jul 2 • 7 min
In this podcast, Dr. Amanda Kelly reviews the basic characteristics of ABA [applied behavior analysis]. To learn more visit
Ethics of Staying Up to Date
Jun 27 • 8 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly reviews some of the changes put forth by the Behavior Analyst Certification Board (BACB). Changes were announced December 2018 and most are effective November 2019. For more information visit For more information…
Dr. Cruz-Torres on RBTs: Ethics and Advice
Jun 25 • 30 min
In this episode, Dr. Elisa Cruz-Torres speaks with Dr. Kelly about the Registered Behavior Technician (RBT) credential. Dr. Cruz-Torres discusses the process of becoming an RBT, constraints when trying to obtain competencies in ABA, and responsibilities…
Anxiety & Airplanes: A Personal Account
Jun 19 • 28 min
When one of your favorite places becomes a place of panic, what do you do? In this episode, Dr. Kelly shares what she has learned since having panic attacks on airplanes. Dr. Kelly shares information from experts, as well as what has been helpful for her…
Rose Griffin on Being an SLP & BCBA
Jun 18 • 30 min
In this episode, Rose Griffin details her journey of becoming a speech language pathologist (SLP) AND board certified behavior analyst (BCBA). Rose describes her experiences and how she finds the two fields as complimentary to one another. Rose shares…
Common Misconceptions of ABA
Jun 18 • 8 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly (Behaviorbabe) reviews some common concerns and misconceptions about the practice of applied behavior analysis (ABA). To learn more, visit
Dr. Nicole Davis on Using ABA in Online Instruction
Jun 17 • 24 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly talks with Nicole Davis talks about her role as a professor of online instruction in behavior analysis. Nicole details ways in which behavior analysis can be incorporated into how we teach in an online world, as well as what to…
Applications of ABA | Applied Behavior Analysis
Jun 16 • 5 min
Applied behavior Analysis (ABA) is the problem-solving, scientific approach to challenges that are relevant to individuals, communities, and society. Likely the most well-known application of applied behavior analysis is its use with individuals with…
Jenn Lonardo on Advocating For Appropriate Treatment Recommendations
Jun 15 • 10 min
In this episode, our guest Jennifer Lonardo, BCaBA who lives in Kona on the island of Hawai’i discusses how she effectively and ethically advocates for access to ABA services across settings for her clients. To learn more about ABA, visit…
Ethics of Effective Collaboration
Jun 15 • 13 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly shares some quick tips on how to work with others who don’t want to work with you. To learn more visit
Dr. Rachel Taylor on Defining the Magic
Jun 14 • 27 min
In this episode, Dr. Rachel Taylor talks about “Defining the Magic” of behavior change. This includes translating our science for others, staying focused on improved independence and quality of life, practicing within our scope, and extending our scope to…
Shane Spiker on Self Care and Saying No
Jun 12 • 28 min
In this episode, Shane Spiker joins Dr. Kelly for a discussion on self care and learning how to say no. Shane discusses the benefits to creating a verbal community as well as some strategies for starting on the path to improved self care. Learn more at…
Rebecca Womack on Adults, Advocacy, and Systems Change
Jun 11 • 23 min
In this episode, Rebecca Womack joins Dr. Kelly for a discussion on serving adults, efforts related to advocacy, and some suggestions for achieving meaningful, systems change. For more information, visit
Dr. Judah Axe on Creating Connections
Jun 8 • 29 min
In this episode, Dr. Judah Axe meets with Dr. Kelly and discusses his research on problem solving, as well as recent and upcoming conference presentations, and ongoing collegial collaborations. To learn more about many of the topics mentioned in this…
Dr. Kazemi on Performance Feedback and Artificial Intelligence
Jun 8 • 21 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly speaks with Dr. Ellie Kazemi about starting a university program and publishing THE book on supervision. In addition, Dr. Kazemi also shares her interests in engineering and artificial intelligence. Visit to…
Bearded Behaviorist on Behavior Analysis
Jun 2 • 32 min
On this episode, Brian (Bearded Behaviorist) shares the journey of his autism diagnosis and how he came to find behavior analysis. Brian shares with Dr. Kelly his experiences and his mission to break down misconceptions of ABA for the autism community. To…
Dr. Laprime On Building Capacity in Public Schools
Jun 2 • 17 min
In this episode, Dr. Amanda Laprime joins us to share her thoughts, strategies and suggestions for building capacity in public school settings. Dr. Laprime pulls from her experiences consulting to school teams, always focusing on the principles of…
Functional Behavior Assessments (FBA)
Jun 1 • 6 min
Functional behavior assessments are generally considered to be a problem solving process for addressing behaviors of concern. Behavior plans based on an FBA will be more effective and efficient, and will produce broader change in the lifestyle of the…
Dr. Kelly Testifies at the Hawai’i State Capitol (2015)
May 23 • 8 min
In this episode, we take listeners back to 2015 when Dr. Kelly was asked to explain applied behavior analysis (ABA) to legislators at the State Capitol. What do you notice? What would you do differently if given the chance? Do you have your elevator…
Is the RBT Right for You or Your Agency?
May 22 • 28 min
In this episode Dr. Kelly discusses the RBT (Registered Behavior Technician) credential and whether it is right for you or your agency. Dr. Kelly reviews the barriers and benefits to credentialing direct support workers as RBTs, including increased…
Bethany Patterson on Being a BCBA and a Military Spouse
May 21 • 28 min
In this episode, Bethany Patterson joins Dr. Kelly to discuss life as a BCBA and a military spouse. Bethany shares with listeners her journey and highlights some difficulties for behavior analysts who are often moving with their military spouse. Bethany…
SAFMEDS vs Flashcards
May 21 • 9 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly reviews the similarities and differences between SAFMEDS and flashcards as study tools. To learn more, visit
New Year, New You …just kidding
May 20 • 6 min
In this New Years episode, Dr. Kelly encourages us to find ways to bring ABA a bit more into our everyday in 2019. What good is having the ability to help others if we can’t also use the science to help ourselves? For more information visit…
Dr. Megan Miller on Motherhood
May 12 • 26 min
In this episode, Dr. Megan Miller talks with Dr. Kelly about managing motherhood while maintaining a career as a successful behavior analyst. Hear from Dr. Miller: her experiences, lessons she has learned along the way, and advice for others out there. To…
Antecedent Interventions
May 12 • 10 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly discusses antecedent Interventions. Antecedent Interventions are those strategies, which are aimed at preventing challenging behavior from occurring. The focus is on strengthening deficient repertoires, while systematically…
Dr. Dixon on Cockroaches, Casinos, & Curricula
May 9 • 34 min
In this episode, Dr. Mark Dixon joins Dr. Kelly and discusses broad applications of behavior analysis. Dr. Dixon conducts research in 3 very distinct areas: cockroaches, casinos, and curricula. ABA principles embedded in the conversation include: stimulus…
Martha Gabler on TAGteach
May 8 • 34 min
In this episode, Martha Gabler discusses her experiences as an autism mom, detailing her difficulties and discoveries along the way. Martha shares her first experiences with ABA, delving into VB, DI, and PT before discovering TAGteach (Teaching with…
Dr. Tomaino on Crisis Prevention (Part 2)
May 6 • 19 min
In the second part of this two part series, Dr. Tomaino joins us to discuss crisis prevention. In discussions with Dr. Tomaino, listeners will learn the importance of prevention and the role of interdisciplinary collaboration. For more info, check out…
Dr. Miguel on Crisis Prevention (Part 1)
May 5 • 16 min
In the first part of this two part podcast, Dr. Edward Miguel talks about crisis prevention, specifically on shifting the mindset on physical intervention. Dr. Miguel noted that must first start with the belief that every individual has the right to a…
Lara Bollinger’s back: Updates from Law School
May 2 • 21 min
We welcome back guest speaker, Lara Bollinger for a second episode and an update on law school. Lara is Licensed as a Behavior Analyst in Hawai’i and Virginia and is currently enrolled in law school. Lara shares with listeners her trials and tribulations…
Kim Wolff on Consultation
Apr 23 • 17 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly sits down with Kim Wolff, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst who has experience working in Boston, Korea, Kentucky, Hawai’i, and Ohio. Kim and Dr. Kelly discuss the basics of beginning the consultative process with families. For…
Jay Cage on Personal Change
Apr 16 • 18 min
In this episode, Dr. Kelly is joined by Jay Cage, who describes her journey on the path to personal, sustainable behavior change. Jay emphasizes the role behavior analysis has played in helping her achieve personal change; offering examples and ideas for…