Never Not Creative

Never Not Creative
Welcome to the Never Not Creative podcast. The audio companion to the Never Not Creative community. We’ll be interviewing and chatting with community members, discussing issues and making announcements. Never Not Creative is a community for creatives to come together and tackle the challenges we face in the creative industry. From how to manage and improve your mental health, to getting paid what you’re worth and everything in between.

S2 Ep14 The Creative’s Mind – with Professor David Alais
Sep 3 • 40 min
Professor David Alais is a psychologist and neuroscientist at The University of Sydney. Sarah and Andy caught up with David to understand better how the creative mind works, and how we can do a better job of looking after it. David’s research focuses on…
S2 Ep13 Being brutally honest
Aug 20 • 51 min
This episode is packed full of advice on running a business as a creative – get your notebooks out! Andy and Sarah caught up with Emily Cohen, creative business consultant and author of Brutally Honest. We discussed the challenges facing creative…
S2 Ep12 Minding The Gap
Aug 7 • 57 min
Andy and Sarah caught up with Chris Doyle who last year started an initiative called This Is Not University. TINU is a mentoring program that Chris started to help bridge the gap between education and career as he realised that he didn’t have the time /…
S2 Ep11 Looking after each other
Jul 24 • 45 min
Our industry is nothing without the people who make it. So, what do we do to make sure they’re thriving? How are we helping them grow? In this episode, Andy and Sarah catch up with Manon Pietra, People and Culture Director at PHD Media. We discuss how to…
S2 Ep10 NNC x ADR collaboration - Running a business with your best mate
Jul 6 • 59 min
Australian Design Radio and Never Not Creative hosts Matt Leach and Andy Wright found themselves in Brisbane together at The Design Conference. Therefore, it was a no-brainer to combine mics and interview the founders of Ustwo, Sinx and Mills about the…
S2Ep9 Industry Events: Inspiration, community and self-development
Jun 7 • 43 min
After a month of high quality events in the creative industry, Sarah and Andy unpack how important it is to get out to find inspiration, community and spend some time on your own self-development. Sarah attended Rare by Google, Semi-Permanent and The…
S2Ep8 How can we make a brighter future for the creative industry?
May 21 • 50 min
This episode was sparked by a tweet. On the 2nd April, Andy tweeted, “Sometimes it feels like we really don’t want to create a better industry. When you look at what we do to the people trying to start out or get ahead it’s simply baffling…” It was…
S2Ep7 What diversity can bring to the creative industry
May 8 • 57 min
Big questions in this episode. Is the lack of diversity in the creative industry holding us back? Can we be more creative as a result? What’s it like to be a person of colour in our industry? Jane and G work in a Sydney creative agency. Both people of…
S2Ep6 Why go in-house as a creative?
Apr 25 • 50 min
Maggie Tang (ex Frost, Houston Group and current Head of Brand at Ableton), and Christian Hewitt ex R/GA, part of InVision’s Design Leadership Forum and current Head of Design at Streamtime) join Andy and Sarah to discuss what it’s like to make the…
S2Ep5 - Getting a foot in the door
Apr 8 • 50 min
This episode Andy and Sarah discuss a recent Never Not Creative event – The Future Of Internships. Should they or shouldn’t they be paid? How do we make sure that internships aren’t just accessible to those who can afford them? What stories exist around…
S2 Ep4 - Causing a Creative Industry Boom
Mar 27 • 59 min
We catch up with Katy Cowan, the founder of Creative Boom. The online magazine for the creative industry that supports and provides resources for anyone working (or thinking of) in the creative industry. Katy shares stories of freedom, growing a side…
S2Ep3 - Providing support for women in the creative industry
Mar 12 • 36 min
In this episode we get frank about the experiences of women in the creative industry. Mirella Marie is the founder of Womentor. An international mentor network for female graphic designers. Mirella talks to us about the inspiration for Womentor and how it…
S2Ep2 - Best of 2018 - part 2
Feb 28 • 42 min
It’s the second half of our review show. Sarah and Andy discuss internships with the highlights from our chats with Adam Thorn (journalist at Mumbrella) and Dean Jacobson (a creative from Melbourne). We get into parental leave, re-capping on our chat with…
S2Ep1 - Best of 2018 - part 1
Feb 19 • 37 min
To kick off season 2, we review the best of season 1. Andy and co-host Sarah, go back to the start to discuss vulnerability and struggle with some of the highlights from Andy’s chat with Josie Young and Tina Victoria Afshar. We also talk egos and feelings…
AGDA and staying relevant for the design community
Dec 19, 2018 • 36 min
In the second part of our chat with Nic Eldridge, CEO of AGDA, we focus on the future. What are the challenges facing AGDA as we enter 2019? How will AGDA remain relevant? Nic also adds some clarity on who AGDA is, who it’s for and what it isn’t! This is…
The great debate around awards and AGDA
Dec 17, 2018 • 33 min
As we move into the final weeks of the year, we have special guest, Nic Eldridge. Nic’s the CEO of AGDA (the Australian Graphic Design Association) and a major voice in the design industry. In this first part of 2, we talk about the recent AGDA awards,…
Creating better conditions for parents returning to work
Dec 13, 2018 • 41 min
In this episode, we talk to Kate Pollard. Kate, is the co-founder of Circle In, a startup focused on creating a community to improve working conditions for working mums. It’s a big issue and one that can help with other challenges around gender, fairness…
Mentally Healthy - Does the creative industry have a mental health problem?
Dec 6, 2018 • 49 min
This week we launched the results of the Mentally Healthy 2018 research – one of the largest studies into the mental health of the creative, media and marketing industries. If you didn’t get the chance to watch the live stream or attend the event at…
Future Models For The Creative Industry
Nov 30, 2018 • 39 min
Part 2 of our chat with Jules Ehrhardt, former co-owner of Ustwo and founder of Fktry, a creative capital studio. Jules talks about future models, bringing all of yourself to work and how we need to take responsibility for change. Follow him on Medium and…
The Future Of The Creative Industry with Jules Ehrhardt
Nov 17, 2018 • 39 min
Jules Ehrhardt is obsessed. Obsessed about the future of our industry and changing the terms of business for the creative class. How do we stop creativity being seen as a commodity? Can we make equity for expertise a reality? What does a new creative…
What’s Going On?
Nov 9, 2018 • 37 min
This episode, Andy’s on his own. So this is the perfect opportunity to let you know what’s been going on and what’s coming up in Never Not Creative land. From some early insight into the results of the Mentally Healthy survey to who you can look forward…
Internships - could standardised programs be the answer?
Nov 3, 2018 • 48 min
This is part 2 of our chat with Dean Jacobson, a designer from Melbourne. We disagreed on the subject of whether all internships should be paid. In this episode we start to discuss whether there are solutions that could make internships better and more…
Internships and the benefit of hindsight
Oct 24, 2018 • 42 min
Episode 12 brings us back to internships. They’re such a great way to get a foot in the door, prove your worth and start a career. But, should they be paid? Is there a maximum duration? What’s a good one look like? How can you steer clear of a bad one.…
What are we worth? And what should we be rewarding?
Oct 16, 2018 • 33 min
This final instalment of a discussion with Maggie Tang and Gabby Lord focuses on the value of creative work. How do you ensure that clients recognise the value you provide? How do you ensure that you don’t sell yourself short from both a monetary and…
The Future, Unicorns And The (Potential) Power Of Community
Oct 10, 2018 • 30 min
In part 2 of our chat with Gabby Lord and Maggie Tang, we get inspired by Gabby’s tweets (@gabbylord_ if you’re not following already). From the unachievable expectations of job ads, to the cost of award entries and what it’s like to stick your neck out…
Gender, Confidence and the Money Question
Oct 4, 2018 • 45 min
This is the first in a 3 part series of a conversation I had with Gabby Lord and Maggie Tang. Both are Aussie creatives in Berlin with significant opinions on the industry and ideas for solutions. In this first part we discuss what it’s like to be a woman…
Real Talk - feelings, struggles and honesty
Sep 26, 2018 • 23 min
In the second half of our chat with Kitiya Palaskas, things get very real and very personal. Kit has started an initiative called the Real Talk Project ( It’s a project to encourage openness and honesty and to help reduce the stigma…
Burnout and Accountability with Kitiya Palaskas
Sep 19, 2018 • 32 min
In this episode, we chat with Melbourne creative Kitiya Palaskas about burnout, accountability and how to deal with social media. Check out more about Kit at
Investigating unpaid internships with Mumbrella’s Adam Thorn
Sep 8, 2018 • 34 min
Adam Thorn is a journalist for Australia’s media, marketing and creative industry news site, Mumbrella. For the last few months he’s been investigating unpaid internships in the media industry. He shares his findings, the stories he uncovered and the…
The Creative Juggle
Aug 29, 2018 • 39 min
In this episode we interview Charl Laubscher, the founder of Love + Money. Charl has had a fascinating journey through creative agencies and used that experience to start up his own. Love + Money have recently moved to a shortened work day, quality of…
NNC Mini - Mentally Healthy 2018
Aug 23, 2018 • 8 min
A first “mini” episode recorded while walking to and from the Mumbrella Health Marketing Summit to launch our research study, Mentally Healthy 2018. Let us know if these mini episodes are a good idea. And if you’re happy with speed over quality. Airpods…
Vulnerability and the creative’s struggle
Aug 21, 2018 • 27 min
In the last part of our discussion with Josie and Tina we tackle some personal experiences around some of the mental and emotional struggles of being a creative. Don’t forget to share and subscribe for more!
Internships and getting the right start in the industry
Aug 13, 2018 • 36 min
In part 2 of our chat with Josie and Tina we discuss are we giving people entering the creative industry the best possible start? Should interns be paid? If not, what does that mean for others who can’t afford to work for free?
Gender And Opportunity In The Creative Industry
Aug 7, 2018 • 27 min
We chat with Josie Young (Christopher Doyle & Co.) and Tina Victoria Afshar (Common State) about being a woman in the industry and what we can do to find better balance and inclusion. Big thanks to Josie and Tina who gave up their Saturday afternoons to…
Welcome to Never Not Creative
Jul 29, 2018 • 25 min
An intro to the Never Not Creative podcast and what we’re up to as a community for creatives.