Internet Friends

Internet Friends

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18: For the Olds
Dec 5 • 69 min
For a lot of folks of Jon and Drew’s generation, the origin story of getting into computers and the internet started with music. In the iPod era, people started building music libraries on their computers that grew to thousands of songs, and the internet…
17: Food Pill Future
Nov 21 • 49 min
For their first Thanksgiving special, Drew and Jon talk about food! At this point in history, food is totally a tech topic. Drew is into Soylent, because it doesn’t require him to interrupt his workflow. Jon is more into cooking lunch every day, precisely…
16: Turn the Living Room Purple
Nov 7 • 57 min
Smart homes. Jon is a latecomer, and Drew assures him that’s a good thing. All Jon has so far is Hue lights and speakers, but he’s getting pretty into it pretty quickly. Lightbulbs are easy, though? What about door locks? Cameras? Um, microwaves? Is it…
SPECIAL: Apple October 2018 Event
Oct 30 • 62 min
The day has arrived! The new iPad Pro day, that is. Drew and Jon talk about the iPad as their new main computers — the most popular computer in the world — as well as the new MacBook Air and Mac mini updates and what this whole product line means for…
15: People Don’t Read
Oct 17 • 54 min
Jon and Drew discuss the role of writing in online media and community, and they try their best not to sound like old men (Jon has to try harder). There’s a rising tide of conventional wisdom out there that reading and writing are from a bygone era. Jon…
14: Where the People Are
Oct 3 • 55 min
Jon reports that Burning Man 2018 was exactly what 2018 needed, and it got him hyped up on community enough to try going back on Facebook. He lasted three weeks. There’s still something missing that it seems like social media should provide. The…
SPECIAL: Apple September 2018 Event
Sep 13 • 82 min
Drew and Jon emerge from their late-summer madness to discuss Apple’s September event, which announced the Apple Watch Series 4 and the iPhones XS, XS Max, and XR. Want to be internet friends? Write to Drew and Jon or find us on Micro.blog at…
13: As Resilient As We Can Be
Aug 15 • 41 min
This is a tough one, but it has a happy ending. Drew’s home was destroyed by wildfire. He and Kristine evacuated safely, and they’ve returned to Redding to begin rebuilding. Read Kristine’s story about what happened; it’s powerful. Drew explains how…
12: Happy Medium
Jul 25 • 50 min
Drew’s Twitter life has begun to feel like an addiction, which was why Jon deleted his account, and Drew’s considering that, too. They can’t discuss the addiction for too long without switching to the subject of recovery. Jon has been finding places where…
11: A Slice of Being Alive
Jul 11 • 47 min
Drew bought a coffee shop! Jon went on a seven-day silent meditation retreat. These are seemingly pretty different responses to the present moment, but what they had in common was a drive to do something significant in the physical world rather than the…
10: Full-Body Squint
Jun 27 • 47 min
Working entirely online is liberating, but it’s also frustrating, and Jon and Drew are both wrestling with it lately. Drew is compensating for the isolation by renting an office space with friends who aren’t coworkers, but they are co-workers… if that…
9: Tribal Gathering
Jun 13 • 41 min
Jon asks Drew about his visit to Apple’s Worldwide Developer Conference, the primary gathering of the Apple Tribe. Let’s face it: it’s a tribe, and it bears many of the hallmarks of tribalism. How much of the intense energy in the Apple Tribe is even…
SPECIAL: Apple WWDC 2018 Keynote
Jun 5 • 71 min
Apple premiered iOS 12, watchOS 5, macOS 10.14 Mojave, and, uh, tvOS something-something today in San Jose, kicking off WWDC 2018. Drew and Jon weren’t in the room, as per usual, but that didn’t make them any less excited about the new features. They…
8.5: Elite Squad
Jun 1 • 26 min
Jon’s brother, Sam “DingoBongo” Mitchell, joins Jon and Drew for a continuation of the PUBG Mobile discussion in Episode 8. They discuss the difference — if any — between playing this game online as adults and playing Halo in the basement as kids. They…
8: War Stories
May 30 • 44 min
It takes more than simply hanging out to build community. It takes shared goals, and these days, it could be argued, violent video games are providing that better than so-called “social” apps are. Neither Drew nor Jon would have thought they’d turn to a…
7: Black Rectangle
May 16 • 50 min
Apple’s big annual WWDC keynote is a few weeks away, so it’s a good time for some new Hot Takes™. Inspired by Horace Dediu’s remarkable analysis on the iMac’s 20th anniversary, Jon and Drew take the unconventional approach of looking at what Apple does in…
6: Knocking Down the Walls
May 2 • 46 min
Follow-up on Garden (spoiler alert: nope) leads to a discussion of the evolution of keeping in touch, from actual pen pals through the IM years to the social media era, and the shifts in the nature of relationships that went along with it. Close…
5: A Facebook Birthday
Apr 18 • 40 min
One of the downsides of being off social media is losing the automatic reminders to stay in touch with people. Since deactivating Facebook four months ago, Jon is trying to build a system to replace that. Drew found an app called Garden that seems to fit…
4: Whatever Works
Apr 4 • 52 min
Jon has decided to retool everything on his phone, which means that something has gone wrong along the way. His ripping up of the digital floorboards turns into a conversation about our current ecosystems and the trickiness of answering questions that…
SPECIAL: Apple March 2018 Education Event
Mar 27 • 41 min
Not-live from not-Chicago, Drew and Jon recap Apple’s March 2018 event focused on education. They discuss the new iPad and updated iWork apps with Pencil support, the new Everyone Can Create courses teaching students how to make music, make movies, draw…
3: Shared Reality
Mar 21 • 43 min
It’s not just us: the story of social media has turned dark, and the leaders of the big platform companies are scrambling to fix it. Drew and Jon consider the prurient origins of social media and wonder whether it’s possible for these companies to turn…
2: We’ve Always Been Cyborgs
Mar 7 • 60 min
Drew and Jon share their excitement and frustration about this transition period between the desktop and touchscreen worlds. They realize they’re talking about having fun with their Apple stuff, which the Apple commentariat seems to have forbidden…
1: How We Met on the Internet
Feb 28 • 47 min
Drew and Jon’s internet friendship began with this no-longer-extant live video chat… show… thing on April 19, 2012. Internet friendship has changed dramatically since then. In this episode, they trace the histories of their internet selves from the…