Out of Order

Out of Order

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A podcast discussing how our world was, is, and will be ordered.


Will Cities Save Us From Climate Change?
Oct 3 • 24 min
As frustration with inaction on climate change at the national and global level boils over, cities of all sizes and geographies just might hold the solutions we need to take action on global warming. In this episode of Out of Order, two mayors from…
Democracy Works presents: China’s Threat to Democracies Around the World
Sep 25 • 41 min
We’re interrupting the Out of Order stream this week to share an episode of the “Democracy Works” podcast — a project of Penn State’s McCourtney Institute for Democracy and WPSU. In this episode, democracy expert Larry Diamond talks with Democracy Works’…
Breaking the National Security Council
Sep 13 • 30 min
John Bolton, President Trump’s 3rd National Security Adviser, has made his exit. With change afoot (or maybe not) in the foreign policy apparatus, two of the most well-positioned voices on all things NSC—John Gans and Derek Chollet— are at the Out of…
Divided We Stand
Sep 5 • 35 min
With election season ramping up and political divisions on display, two veterans of U.S. politics— Margaret Carlson, Columnist at The Daily Beast, and Mitch Landrieu, the former Mayor of New Orleans and founder of E Pluribus Unum— joined Out of Order for…
What’s Next for North Macedonia?
Aug 1 • 26 min
After a breakthrough in the Balkans, the Republic of North Macedonia has a new name and its sights set on integration with the European Union and NATO. What is the path ahead, how do the complicated politics of the region affect its prospects, and what is…
Has the Transatlantic Relationship Been Irreparably Damaged?
Jul 18 • 51 min
Has the Transatlantic Relationship Been Irreparably Damaged? At the most recent Brussels Forum, GMF partnered with Intelligence Squared U.S., for a lively debate on the future of the U.S. and Europe’s special relationship amidst polarized politics and…
From Paris to Warsaw, How Europe is Answering to “America First”
May 30 • 30 min
This week on Out of Order, Dr. Donfried sits down with GMF’s Peter Sparding to discuss the three strategic Europes—and what the differences in attitudes reveals about European cohesion and also the future of the transatlantic relationship. The…
Europe’s Make or Break Election?
May 22 • 16 min
On May 23-26 citizens in all (still) 28 EU countries will go to the polls and select the 751 members of the European Parliament. Rachel Tausendfreund talks to Rosa Balfour, a senior fellow with GMF‘s Europe program based in Brussels, about the populist…
System Failure: The U.S.-Turkey Feud and What’s Next for the S-400 and F-35s
May 9 • 39 min
Ankara and Washington are locked in a game of chicken. With Turkey refusing to budge over its purchase of the NATO-incompatible S-400 missile defense system from Russia, the U.S. is upping the stakes with the threat of sanctions and ejection from the…
Two Presidential Candidates Walk Into a Bar
Apr 19 • 22 min
More than five years after the Euromaidan, Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko is battling for his political life against Volodymyr Zelensky – a comedian and political newcomer who has emerged as the favorite to win Sunday’s runoff. Zelensky’s plans for…
NATO at 70
Apr 1 • 35 min
Nearly seventy years ago to the day, President Harry Truman signed the North Atlantic Treaty and established NATO. Ahead of an unprecedented address to a Joint session of Congress by NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and ministerial meetings in…
Silent Revolution: The Transatlantic Policy Debate Over AI
Mar 15 • 30 min
This week on Out of Order, Karen Kornbluh, director of GMF’s new Digital Innovation and Democracy Initiative, and Michel Servoz, the senior advisor to European Commission president Jean Claude Juncker, discuss the frontier technologies changing society,…
Huawei or the Highway
Mar 1 • 30 min
The controversy over Chinese telecoms giant Huawei and the potential for it to unlock an unprecedented level of access to Europe’s critical infrastructure through 5G has been at the center of headlines around the world. But how does Huawei’s 5G plan…
What to Watch in 2019, Part Two
Feb 22 • 42 min
In the concluding episode of the two-part “What to Watch” feature, the Out of Order roundtable discusses another raft of issues that they’ll be tracking this year, now that we have made it through a shutdown and almost two eventful months. We focus this…
Washington and The Wall: A Conversation on Immigration with The New York Times’ Michael Shear
Feb 5 • 35 min
A month into 2019, the fight over immigration policy is without resolution as the White House battles with Democrats over border wall funding. New York Times White House correspondent Michael Shear joins Out of Order’s Peter Sparding for a timely…
What to Watch in 2019, Part One
Dec 21, 2018 • 30 min
In the podcast adaption of the new blog post, “What to Watch in 2019,” the Out of Order hosts—with cameos by various German Marshall Fund experts from around the world—weigh in on what to expect in 2019 when it comes to transatlantic trade battles, China,…
Germany’s Next Merkel?
Dec 6, 2018 • 26 min
The Angela Merkel era is ending. Currently, there are three candidates are vying for her position. The cast of characters is interesting: The ambitious Jens Spahn, currently serving as health minister; the woman generally viewed as Merkel’s anointed heir…
Thanksgiving Special: The Berlin Thanksgiving Episode
Nov 23, 2018 • 17 min
Host Rachel Tausendfreunde sits down with Director of the European Program and Senior Fellow, Jan Techau and Maryna Rakhlei from GMF’s Fund for Belarus Democracy. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, host and guests discuss recent occurrences in the…
America Voted. What’s Next for Foreign Policy?
Nov 9, 2018 • 20 min
American voters have spoken and Democrats will soon control the U.S. House of Representatives. How might this new political reality at home affect the Trump administration’s policies abroad? What levers will the Democrats pull, if any, when it comes to…
Trading Jabs: What’s Next for Trump’s Trade Battles with China and Europe?
Oct 26, 2018 • 62 min
On this episode we’ll deconstruct the current state of international trade with Georgetown law professor Jennifer Hillman. Hillman has served as a member of the WTO’s Appellate Body, as commissioner of the US International Trade Commission, and as General…
The State of European (dis)Union Pt 1: Central and Eastern Europe
Oct 11, 2018 • 67 min
Thirty years after the fall of the wall, the reemergence of authoritarianism and illiberalism in Central and Eastern Europe is as pressing as ever and threatens to divide an already shaky EU. With Article 7 proceedings triggered against Poland and…
Update: State of Sanctions and Season 2 Teaser
Oct 5, 2018 • 13 min
In July on Out of Order, we discussed what’s on the line for multilateral sanctions against Iran in the wake of President Trump’s withdrawal from the JCPOA (better known as the Iran Nuclear Deal). [Episode Link] Now the stakes have been raised…
The Battle for the Future: Transatlantic Values and Technological Progress
Aug 8, 2018 • 53 min
During the height of the cold war, the space race between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. was as much an ideological struggle as a battle of technological exploration. This plays out in our own time through a struggle for design and control over the next wave…
Europe and United States fight over Iran, is the United States sanctioning itself in the foot?
Jul 19, 2018 • 41 min
In Episode IX of Out of Order Rachel Tausendfreund talks with GMF fellows Douglas Hengel, Joshua Kirschenbaum, and Andrew Small about transatlantic fights with Iran and the future of sanctions The sanctions regime against Iran that led to the JCPOA is…
North Korea, the U.S. and a Bunch of Nervous Allies
Jun 19, 2018 • 46 min
President Trump’s overtures to North Korea represent perhaps the most significant foreign policy development so far during his administration. In addition to marking a departure in how authoritarian regimes are treated by the world’s major power, recent…
Do we really need common values? On NATO and Turkey
May 24, 2018 • 28 min
We are back! After an extended spring break, the Out of Order crew is back in the studio to bring you informative and relevant speakers and ideas, exploring how the world was, is and will be ordered. In this episode, we discuss whether the West is a club…
Live From GMF’s Young Professionals Summit: What is the Liberal International Order Anyway?
Mar 14, 2018 • 65 min
Over the last years, policy makers on both sides of the Atlantic have become increasingly concerned that the Liberal International Order is in danger. At first, threats to this Western-led order seemed to emanate mostly from the outside, as rising powers…
“Military Might…? Hard Security’s Role in a Soft Power World”
Feb 28, 2018 • 46 min
So far, the Out-of-Order Podcast has focused on specific countries and the role they play in trying to stabilize, uphold, change, or transform the current international order. In the fifth episode, we take a different approach as we look at what role the…
Unleashed or Unhinged? One Year of U.S. Global Leadership Under President Trump
Feb 12, 2018 • 44 min
In the fourth episode of Out of Order, having discussed the roles of Germany, China, and whether other international actors can fill the void left in the international system, this episode focuses on the country that supposedly is leaving this void: the…
Disinformation and Division, From Russia with Love
Feb 1, 2018 • 38 min
Misinformed, disinformed, and divided —  that’s Russia’s goal. In the third episode of GMF’s Out of Order podcast, we look at Russia’s hybrid toolbox of trouble, and what it means for the future of the liberal international order as we know it. What is…
All Things China
Jan 11, 2018 • 60 min
In the second episode of Out of Order, GMF Fellows Amy Studdart, Andrew Small, and Peter Sparding take a look at China and its approach to the liberal international order. First, they discuss the so called “China shock” ˗ the analysis that China, as a…
What’s German for Blob?
Dec 18, 2017 • 42 min
In the pilot episode of Out of Order, GMF Fellows Rachel Tausendfreund, Amy Studdart, Hans Kundani, and Peter Sparding take a look at the political situation in Germany. Following the Brexit referendum in the United Kingdom and the U.S. presidential…