Discourse in Magic

Discourse in Magic

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Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams discuss magic, mentalism, theory, philosophy, tips and resources for magicians to help make your performance amazing!


Movement and Meaning with Javi Benitez
Dec 5 • 68 min
Javi Benetiz joins Jonah this week to discuss movement, meaning and the importance of experiencing life. Javi is an award winning sleight of hand magician from Spain, who brings his passion for life into his magic.
The Magic Coach with Fernando Figueras
Nov 28 • 67 min
While in Spain, Jonah sat down with Fernando Figueras to discuss presentation, honesty in magic, and being a magic coach. Alongside being known for his rich and emotional presentation style, Fernando is also a magic coach who focuses on developing…
Loving Magic with Juan Rubiales
Nov 21 • 59 min
Jonah has returned from Spain and, as souvenirs for his listeners, has brought back a number of episodes with some amazing Spanish magicians. First up is Juan Rubiales, who sat down to discuss mentors, bringing emotion into your magic, and loving…
Stolen Episode: How to Start a Show Hosted by Ben Train
Nov 14 • 16 min
While Jonah’s away in Spain, Ben Train has infiltrated Jonah’s computer (he really needs a less obvious password). Instead of his original list “10 Weird Facts About Jonah,” Ben has decided to give you some tips on how to start your own show.
Vanessa Vakharia on The Math Guru
Nov 7 • 8 min
It’s a minisode this week! Jonah recently sat down with math tutor Vanessa Vakharia on her podcast, Math Therapy, to work through his math-related traumas. If you hate math, this is the perfect podcast for you! The following clip was pulled from Episode…
Halloween Episode
Oct 31 • 7 min
Boo! To celebrate Halloween, Jonah dug through the annals of magic history to find you a frightening magic story. His research led to the following clip of Eugene Burger recounting the tale of one woman and her haunted dollhouse. So lock your doors, shut…
Personality, Television, and Magic Competitions with Ryan Hayashi
Oct 24 • 74 min
Jonah sits down with Ryan Hayashi this week to talk about finding a personality, magic competitions, and the ins & outs of television magic. Ryan is a hobbyist sleight-of-hand magician with a number of competition wins and television performances under…
Making your Magic Unique with Michael O’Brien
Oct 17 • 47 min
This week Jonah sits down with Michael O’Brien to talk collaboration, developing material, and making effects relatable for your audience. Michael is a sleight of hand magician known for his work with the linking rings.
The Magic of Collaboration with Brian Brushwood
Oct 10 • 101 min
Brian Brushwood joins Jonah this week to talk creating content, finding a niche, and failing until you succeed. If you’ve searched for magic on YouTube, there’s a good chance you’ve come across Brian’s channel Scam Nation. Alongside being a YouTuber,…
Magician Appetizer #6
Oct 3 • 5 min
Hi, Jonah here! This week I read an excerpt from an upcoming project that is available for pre-order about the most important things to do when going pro.
Finding a Moment with Curtis Kam
Sep 26 • 61 min
Curtis Kam joins Jonah this week to discuss coin magic, thinking about your audience, and finding interesting plots. Although known for his coin work, Curtis is a well-rounded magician and writer who takes a unique approach to his presentations. He also…
Biohacking Magic with Anastasia Synn
Sep 19 • 53 min
Jonah is joined by Anastasia Synn this week to discuss biohacking, the future, and the shocking side of magic. Anastasia is a biohacker, magician and stunt performer with 26 implants in her body that she uses in her performances and day to day life.
Striking a Balance with Pit Hartling
Sep 12 • 56 min
Jonah is joined by Pit Hartling this week to explore creating magic, counting tricks, and making presentation decisions. Pit is a German magician who brings his own take to sleight of hand card magic.
Comedy Magic Secrets with Amazing Johnathan
Sep 5 • 86 min
This week the Amazing Johnathan joins Jonah to talk about comedy, magic and earning your chops. Johnathan is a worldrenowed comedy magician known for his shocking humour and twisted magic tricks.
Bringing Closeup Card Magic to the Stage with Jimmy Ichihana
Aug 29 • 61 min
Jonah sits down with Jimmy Ichihana this week to discuss community, embracing your interests, and bringing card magic to the stage. Jimmy is a sleight of hand performer from Florida who has performed at the Magic Castle and has appeared twice on Fool Us.
Esther’s Follies’ Inner Secrets with Ray Anderson
Aug 22 • 60 min
This week, Jonah sits down with Ray Anderson to discuss putting on a show, developing a character, and keeping your material fresh. Ray has been a featured performer with the long-running variety show, Esther’s Follies, for 20+ years. By mixing parody…
Magician Appetizer #5: Listener Q&A
Aug 15 • 14 min
You had questions, Jonah has answers! Recently, Jonah asked listeners via social media and the mailing list to send in any questions they have regarding magic to be answered on this week’s episode.
Never Stop Exploring with Mario the Maker Magician
Aug 8 • 69 min
Jonah is joined by Mario the Maker Magician this week to discuss bringing value to your show, learning to be a flexible performer, and instilling passion into your magic. Mario is a children’s show performer who uses D.I.Y robots, handmade props and a…
Reinventing Your Magic with Stuart MacDonald
Aug 1 • 86 min
This week, Jonah sits down with Stuart MacDonald to discuss storytelling, effective methods for practicing, and what to consider when changing your act. In 2017, Stuart made history at the IBM-SAM Combined Convention where he claimed all 5 top awards with…
Finding Your Voice with Jamy Ian Swiss
Jul 25 • 132 min
Jonah is joined by Jamy Ian Swiss this week to discuss persona, creativity and the importance of learning the classics. Alongside being a dedicated, lifelong student of magic, Jamy is a prolific writer, sleight of hand artist, and magic historian.
Magician Appetizer #4
Jul 18 • 2 min
Jonah serves up another bite-sized episode this week, giving you the motivation you might just need to hear.
Magician Appetizer #3
Jul 11 • 4 min
Does the blank page scare you? Do you constantly find yourself deleting and retyping the same thing, only to repeat the process? Do you wish the computer could just read your mind and write the script you want for you? In this bite-sized episode, Jonah…
F**k Fear with Adam Rubin
Jul 4 • 73 min
Jonah sits down with Adam Rubin this week to discuss creativity, writing, and applying magic to other aspects of your life. Alongside being a magician, Adam is the Director of Puzzles for Art of Play, a #1 New York Times best selling picture book author,…
Perceiving Magic with Julie Eng
Jun 27 • 91 min
This episode Jonah sits down with Julie Eng to discuss Magicana, the community within magic, and elevating the perception of magic. Julie is an award-winning performer and the executive director of Magicana.
Sammy Younan on My Summer Lair
Jun 20 • 61 min
This week Jonah is the one being interviewed as he joins Sammy Younan on his podcast, My Summer Lair, to discuss the perception of magic and developing in your craft.
Finding Beauty and Poetry in your Magic with Kiko Pastur
Jun 13 • 78 min
Kiko Pastur joins Jonah this week to discuss aesthetic magic, challenging your creativity, and finding symbolism in an effect. Kiko is a magician from A Coruña, Spain, whose style draws on the beauty and wonder of our world.
Disillusionment and Exploring Intent with Nate Staniforth
Jun 6 • 74 min
This week Jonah sits down with Nate Staniforth to discuss disillusionment, determining your intent, and creating visceral effects. Alongside touring the college circuit, Nate is the author of Here is Real Magic and Clouds and Kingdoms.
The Heart and Soul of Magic with Ran’D Shine
May 30 • 68 min
This episode Jonah sits down with Ran’D Shine to discuss performing on the college circuit, creating inclusive environments and the rich history of African Americans in magic. Alongside being a highly sought after, award winning magician on the college…
Tips for Touring Tricks with Ryan Joyce
May 23 • 78 min
This week, Jonah sits down with Ryan Joyce to discuss the realities of touring, marketing a show, and working towards a solid show. Ryan is a Canadian magician who spent thirteen years touring the country with a stage illusion show. Ryan has also been…
Magician Appetizer #2
May 16 • 5 min
It’s another bite sized episode this week! This time, Jonah suggests an interesting way to discover your character.
Magician Appetizer #1
May 9 • 6 min
This week, Jonah is trying out a different kind of solo episode. Short but packed with information, the Magician Appetizer episodes are meant to whet your appetite for the larger topics often discussed on the podcast. To start the new format off, Jonah…
Searching for Real Magic with Gordon Precious
May 2 • 68 min
On episode 161, Jonah sits down with Gordon Precious to discuss exploring life and searching for real magic. Besides being an incredible magician, Gordon has travelled to over 100 countries, owns an extensive magical apparatus collection, and holds the…
Finding Joy in Magic with Michel Clavello
Apr 25 • 65 min
On episode 160, Jonah sits down with Michel Clavello to discuss finding the magic that’s right for you, how to share joy through your magic and producing magic products. Co-owner of Vernet Magic, Michel is a magician and mentalist from Argentina who has…
Wagers, Bets, and Gambles with Norman Beck
Apr 18 • 91 min
Gambling expert, Norman Beck, sits down with Jonah for episode 159 to discuss taking a logical approach, public speaking and when to take a bet. Alongside being a magician and public speaker, Norman has been the VP of Claims and Secuirty for SCA for the…
Never Give Up with Matt Johnson
Apr 11 • 74 min
On episode 158, Matt Johnson joins Jonah to discuss escapology, adding human elements to your magic, and recreating your brand. You may know Matt for his water tank escape on Penn & Teller: Fool Us or for his semi-place finish on Britain’s Got Talent.
10 Tips to Succeed at Magic Conventions
Apr 4 • 32 min
With Toronto’s annual magic convention right around the corner, Jonah sits down for episode 157 to give you ten tips on maximizing your magic convention experience.
Making Better Magic with Brent Braun
Mar 28 • 89 min
For episode 156, Brent Braun sits down with Jonah to discuss what you need to do to improve your magic. Co-founder of the Magic Firm, Brent is regarded as one of the top behind-the-scenes magic consultants, helping magicians move beyond simply thinking…
Palm the Damn Coins with Kainoa Harbottle
Mar 21 • 85 min
On episode 155, Kainoa Harbottle sits down with Jonah to discuss coin magic, educating your audience on magic, and magic in the 19th century. Kainoa is known for his extensive work on coins and his ability to bring theatrical techniques into his…
Bringing Card Magic to the Stage with Alan Marchese
Mar 14 • 74 min
Alan Alfredo Marchese joins Jonah for episode 154 to discuss choosing effects, creating emotion, and the Spanish School of Magic. Attributed to his deep understanding of magic, Alan is known for performing memorable and impactful effects.
Brian Miller on One New Person
Mar 7 • 35 min
This episode the interviewer becomes the interviewee. Jonah sits down with Brian Miller on his podcast, One New Person, to discuss his identity as a magician, copywriting and a chance encounter with one person that had a ripple effect on his life. Brian…
Teamwork, Fallon, and the Audience with Dan White
Feb 28 • 86 min
For episode 162, Jonah sits down with Dan White to discuss working with a team, creating a show, and performing on television. Dan has appeared on the Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon ten times, has an on running show at the Nomad, and has consulted for…
Being Conscious About Your Magic with Manuel Llaser
Feb 21 • 138 min
Jonah is joined by Manuel Llaser for episode 151 to discuss emotion in magic, learning from teachers, and analyzing your approach to magic. Manuel is an Argentinian magician who developed his deep appreciation for magic under the guidance of Juan Tamariz.
Growth in Magic
Feb 14 • 25 min
For episode 150, Jonah would like to thank the listeners for accompanying him on this journey. To do so, he has sat down to reflect on a trick he has been performing for a while now to see how it has changed with him. Alongside the audio, there is a video…
Honest Conversations for Performers with Ben Train
Feb 7 • 72 min
For episode 149, Jonah sits down with his roommate and business partner, Ben Train, to take a critical look at their own approach to magic and their performances.
Make No Small Plans with Steve Cohen
Feb 1 • 120 min
The “Millionaire’s Magician” Steve Cohen joins Jonah on Episode 138 to discuss branding, developing a show, and how to shape a career. Steve is best known for his long-running weekly show, Chamber Magic, but has also appeared on numerous television shows,…
YouTube, Exposure and Making Magic with Jay Sankey
Jan 24 • 78 min
Jay Sankey sits down with Jonah for episode 147 to discuss magic online, creating and persuasive communication. Not only does Jay hold the world record for creating the most original illusions, but he runs a successful YouTube channel, is an international…
Scaling Up your Performance with Haim Goldenberg
Jan 17 • 93 min
Jonah sits down with Haim Goldenberg to discuss the business of magic, taking risks and finding your character for episode 146. Haim is an Israeli-Canadian mentalist who is behind Cryptext and the show Goldmine.
The Truth About Mentalism with Banachek
Jan 10 • 110 min
To start off 2019, Jonah sits down with Steve Shaw, better known as Banachek, to discuss mentalism, the ethics behind deception, and parapsychology. Banachek is one of the world’s leading mindreaders who has helped debunk psychic claims, created effects…
Magic 2018 vs. 2019 with Ben Train, Chris Mayhew, and Jacque Swan
Jan 3 • 35 min
New year, new magic! To ring in the new year, Jonah sits down with Ben Train, Chris Mayhew, and Jacque Swan to discuss their magic highlights and lowlights from 2018, and what they plan to change for the upcoming year.
Impact, Emotion, and Frustration in Magic with Pipo Vilanueva
Dec 27, 2018 • 85 min
Pipo Villanueva joins Jonah for episode 143 to discuss adding impact to your magic. Pipo is a magician from Spain who has performed at the Magic Castle and is known for performing impactful effects.
Exposure and Behind the Scenes
Dec 20, 2018 • 56 min
Episode 142 is a new take on the catch-up episodes. In the first half, Jonah is addressing a topic in the magic community which has been a part of many recent discussions: Magic exposure online. In the second half, he sits down with his writer and editor,…
Rituals, Experiences and Engaging Mentalism with Joe Diamond
Dec 13, 2018 • 110 min
After several recommendations, Joe Diamond finally sits down with Jonah for episode 141 to discuss ritualistic magic, believability, and engaging your audiences. Joe is a mentalist based in Illinois who delves into the weird side of life through his…
Marketing Secrets for Entrepreneurial Magicians with Zivi Kivi
Dec 6, 2018 • 108 min
Jonah sits down with Zivi Kivi for episode 140 to talk the business of performing. Zivi is not only a children’s entertainer, but he operates several podcasts like the Balloon Artist Podcast, Generous Podcast, and the Magician Business Podcast while also…
Creating Magic and Fooling Magicians with Ondřej Pšenička
Nov 29, 2018 • 106 min
This week, Jonah sits down with Ondřej Pšenička to discuss creating magic, Fool Us, and the importance of community. Ondřej is an award-winning magician who has performed at the Magic Castle, on Penn & Teller, and is the creator of the Butterfly Deck.
Monthly Catch up: Len Cooper and Esther Follies
Nov 22, 2018 • 23 min
It’s a solo episode for 138 as Jonah sits down to catch you up on his trip to Austin, where he’s at with his magic and new ideas for the podcast.
Secrets to Developing Your Act with Carisa Hendrix
Nov 15, 2018 • 145 min
Magic podcast hosts collide this episode as Carisa Hendrix, co-host of Shezam, sits down with Jonah to discuss performance, women in magic, cultural theory, and It Factor. Carisa is known for creating characters that draw on her visual arts and sideshow…
Music, Magic and Using Your Other Passions with Jonathan Friedman
Nov 8, 2018 • 75 min
Musician-turned-magician Jonathan Friedman joins Jonah this week to discuss combining outside passions with your magic and how magic has changed over the years. Jonathan is the best selling author of The 80’s Called…They Want Their Magic Book Back Vol.…
Vanishing Inc, Going Pro and Publishing your Magic with Andi Gladwin
Nov 1, 2018 • 73 min
This week, Jonah finally sits down with Andi Gladwin—co-founder of Vanishing Inc.—to discuss the business of magic, creating magic, and how to manage your time. Andi has also appeared on Fool Us and The Next Great Magician where he performed his Man in a…
Co-hosts, Banksy, and Getting Caught Up
Oct 25, 2018 • 14 min
It’s a short episode this week with Jonah talking about the state of the podcast, the Banksy painting fiasco, and the Toronto Magic Company.
Why Tyler is Leaving the Podcast
Oct 19, 2018 • 132 min
With his passion shifting away from magic, Tyler says goodbye to the magic community and to Discourse in Magic in episode 133. Over the course of two hours, Tyler and Jonah discuss why he has decided to leave while reminiscing about their time working on…
Performance That Engages on Multiple Levels with David Parr
Oct 11, 2018 • 121 min
Known for his appearance on Fool Us, David Parr joins Tyler and Jonah. Bringing his theatrical background to magic this episode, David discusses the value of live theatre, the power of storytelling and Fool Us.
Bridging the Old and the New with Harapan Ong
Oct 4, 2018 • 63 min
Harapan Ong joins Tyler and Jonah this week to discuss Instagram magic, developing your art, and the public’s exposure to magic. While Harapan is not a full-time magician, you can find him performing from and reviewing magic books on his Instagram show,…
Ads, Ethics, AGT
Sep 27, 2018 • 73 min
This week, Tyler and Jonah sit down to discuss their past month’s projects, advertising, their views on ethics in magic and Shin Lim.
Innovation and Being Unsatisfied with Existing Methods with Axel Hecklau
Sep 20, 2018 • 59 min
We are very excited to have Axel Hecklau join us. He is an award-winning magician, taking second place for parlour magic at the 2018 FISM World Championship, who brings his unique insight to improving existing methods this episode.
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants with Ed Kwon
Sep 13, 2018 • 68 min
For episode 128, we are excited to have Ed Kwon on the show—a close-up magician who draws inspiration from the classics. He has performed at the Magic Castle, and at Obie’s FFFF convention multiple times.
Summer Catch-Up and Remaining Q & A
Sep 6, 2018 • 67 min
We start episode 127 by catching up with Tyler and Jonah. While Tyler hasn’t been performing much practical magic, he has been developing his video and editing skills. Meanwhile, Jonah’s month was steeped with magic.
Magic Goals and Winning the Crowd with Karl Hein
Aug 30, 2018 • 74 min
Episode 126 is with Slight of Hand magician Karl Hein who is known for WOWing audiences with amazing and original magic and routines. Jonah has seen him perform both at the Magic Castle, and at a Toronto Magic Company show he produced in Toronto.
Quarterly Q & A
Aug 24, 2018 • 95 min
Today’s monthly episode is a 1 am Q&A Episode, with Discourse in Magic: Nights. There was a lot of questions this time, mostly from the mailing list, sorry if they didn’t get to your question. Get on the Newsletter to be in contact with Jonah and get your…
Using Magic to Make an Impact with David Peck
Aug 16, 2018 • 102 min
David Peck is a Toronto magician who specialized in manipulation. He is now a speaker, a writer, and a mover and a shaker in the world of social change. You may recognize him from his Face 2 Face podcast.
Becoming an Amazing Performer with Kayla Drescher
Aug 9, 2018 • 86 min
Kayla Drescher is a fantastic magician, who really cares about character, comedy and the importance of theatre. She recently performed on Pen & Teller’s “Fool Us” and has a new podcast, called Shezam chatting all about women in magic.
Internet Exposure, AGT, and Other Magic Updates
Aug 2, 2018 • 34 min
It’s time for the Discourse in Magic boys to have their monthly get together episode, but this time they’re separated as Jonah has been touring Ontario and Quebec. Tyler, meanwhile, has been shooting more videos for his work and Instagram, while also…
Hypnosis, and the Business of Show Business with Dave Curran
Jul 26, 2018 • 84 min
Dave Curran is a Ontario based Hypnotist known for his Las Vegas-like shows. He’s a friend of Jonah’s (who’s seen his shows over 200 times). Dave was horrible with magic at first, but after buying and practising magic-shop tricks at the age of 11, he…
How to Perform Card Magic with Jason Ladanye
Jul 19, 2018 • 79 min
Jason Ladanye is a world-class sleight of hand magician and card cheating expert, known for his latest book “Confident Deceptions”, his studies with Darwin Ortiz and knowledge in the major topics of theory, practise, scripting and tension made him a great…
Make Your Own Magic and Start to Get Bookings
Jul 12, 2018 • 21 min
In this minisode (mini-episode) Jonah records a short episode with his advice to the responses he received to his regular email asking the Discourse in Magic audience one special question. He asked our 1000 person email newsletter: “What do you want to…
Is There a ‘Correct’ Type of Magic?
Jul 7, 2018 • 39 min
It’s time for your regular catch-up episode with Jonah and Tyler. The episode starts with a quick recap of the last month, where Jonah talks about the Art of Magic, his trip to Chicago and Minneapolis, and much more, and Tyler tells us about a corporate…
Gambling, Cheating, and The Expert at the Card Table with Jason England
Jun 28, 2018 • 60 min
For Episode 117, the Discourse in Magic boys got a chance to sit down with Jason England. If you didn’t know, Jason England is the leading expert on Erdnase, Casino gambling and cheating. His interest in cards started after learning how to play blackjack…
The Toronto Magic Company
Jun 21, 2018 • 63 min
In this episode, Jonah slides over to the other side of the couch so that he can pair with Ben Train and talk about the birth and the growth of the Toronto Magic Company. It start with the story of how TMC began.
The Internet, Creation, and Mutant Powers with Kyle Marlett
Jun 14, 2018 • 62 min
This week Jonah and Tyler talk with magician Kyle Marlett about his new show Mutant Powers. Kyle explains the ins and outs of working in the world of magic and how he has become a fantastic magic consultant and creator.
Surrealist Performance Art
Jun 7, 2018 • 41 min
It’s time for episode 114 and our monthly catch-up for Jonah and Tyler. The pair like to get together every four weeks or so to talk about their magic careers and to answer you questions. Tyler has been slow on the performing side but has been creating at…
Character, Acting, and Honing Your Act with Rob Zabrecky
May 31, 2018 • 57 min
Rob Zabresky is an actor, a songwriter and, most importantly for our purposes, a magician. Rob was a musician in the band Possum Dixon in the mid 1990’s when he strolled into a magic shop in Baltimore to escape the summer heat. The owner of the store…
A New Angle on The Chicago Magic Lounge with Ryan Plunkett
May 24, 2018 • 58 min
Ryan Plunkett is well known as the author of A New Angle and from his work at The Chicago Magic Lounge. We’ve been eager to get him on the podcast for some time now. Ryan worked for a while at a magic store. It ended up teaching him about the things that…
Succeeding as a Touring Duo Act with The Evasons
May 17, 2018 • 93 min
We’ve been trying to get The Evasons on the show for a long time now. Then out of the blue they phoned us up and said that they were in town. We invited them over the house to record this week’s episode and the results were pretty spectacula
Teaching, Lecturing, and Making a Show with Joshua Jay
May 10, 2018 • 75 min
We’re really excited to have the co-founder of Vanishing Ink Magic Joshua Jay on the podcast. Josh and Andi Gladwin founded the company on the belief that there was a real dearth of high-quality magic on the market. Josh was criticized when he first began…
What do you love about Discourse in Magic?
May 3, 2018 • 46 min
It’s time for another catch-up interview with Jonah and Tyler. The episode starts with a quick recap of the last month. Tyler has made a terrible mistake and gotten a Muggle job. He works at at vape store, which is apropos since he uses an e-cig himself.…
Show Business and Magic Consulting with Johnny Thompson
Apr 26, 2018 • 89 min
We’ve invited magic legend Johnny Thompson otherwise known as The Great Tomsoni onto the show today. Together with his wife Pamela Hayes Johnny has been performing for packed houses in Las Vegas for decades. Johnny saw a movie about a Mississippi river…
How to Love Magic with Denis Behr
Apr 19, 2018 • 60 min
We’re excited to have Denis Behr on the show this week. Denis has consistently released some of the most innovative magic in the world. His dedication to the craft shines through in everything he does, especially in his new DVD titled Magic on Tap. Denis…
Money Magic with Josh Janousky
Apr 12, 2018 • 63 min
You know him from his incredible Instagram presence – we’re super excited to have @JustJoshInMagic on the show this week. Josh became obsessed with magic as a teenager. It was an interest that started as a diversion from his rigorous training as a…
T-shirts and Talismans
Apr 5, 2018 • 53 min
It’s episode 105 and time for another solo chat between Jonah and Tyler. It’s been a month since our heroes sat down for one of these. Jonah had a ton of show throughout March with the Toronto Magic Company. Newest Trick in the Book is now a weekly show…
Fool Us and Beyond with Teller
Apr 1, 2018 • 45 min
It’s taken more than two years and over 100 episodes but we’ve finally done it. We managed to convince one the biggest names in magic to join us for a feature length interview. Teller tells us about his early years performing magic with Penn Jillette and…
Magic, Math and Pro Wrestling with Caleb Wiles
Mar 29, 2018 • 60 min
He’s an incredible magician, a close friend but most importantly he’s a listener to the podcast. Caleb Wiles is well known for his amazing stage performances and his appearance on Penn and Teller’s Fool Us. As he started diving deeper into card magic he…
Religion, Psychedelics, and Other Types of Magic with Paul Vigil
Mar 22, 2018 • 63 min
Paul Vigil has burst out of his native Salt Lake City taking his magic to TV and the Las Vegas Stage. He has appeared on Penn and Teller’s Fool Us twice. He trained with Johnny Thompson and worked as a street performer for years – slowly honing his…
Behind the Scenes at Ellusionist with Adam Wilber
Mar 15, 2018 • 76 min
We’re have a really special guest this week. He runs Ellusionist and made waves with his viral performance on Fool Us. Adam Wilber also produced the best selling trick pyro and we’re really excited to have him in the show. Wilber was six years old when he…
Real Magic with Jared Kopf
Mar 8, 2018 • 72 min
Our guest this week is a brilliant mind in the community. He’s a magician, a priest and a raconteur – we’re really excited to have Jared Kopf. Every child is born with a sense of wonder that gradually dwindles. For Jared it never dwindled. He doesn’t…
Is Discourse in Magic Ending?
Mar 1, 2018 • 76 min
We made it! 100 episodes is a milestone we never expected to reach. Well, Jonah did. It’s why he started the numbering with 001. Even still, we’re super excited to have gotten this far. In this episode we reflect on how important the podcast has been on…
Get on Penn and Teller Fool Us with Michael Close
Feb 22, 2018 • 90 min
You know him from his Workers project, his book Paradigm Shift and his work as a consulting producer on Fool Us. In this episode you’re going to learn all about how to have a good presentation, how to have an act worthy of television, and how to make your…
Using Your Face with Mario Lopez
Feb 15, 2018 • 56 min
Mario Lopez was just a kid when a friend put a lit cigarette into his fist and made it disappear. He learned how it was done and from that moment on he was in love with magic. He moved to Granada in his native Spain when he was 18 where he trained with…
Visual Magic and Ellusionist Secrets with Lloyd Barnes
Feb 8, 2018 • 76 min
Lloyd Barnes grandfather became a travelling magician shortly after the war. He developed many tricks over the years and passed those onto Lloyd. His focus was much more on sport as a teenager – especially boxing and gymnastics. His university career was…
Look How Far We’ve Come
Feb 1, 2018 • 50 min
It’s episode 96 and time for another solo episode with Jonah and Tyler. We start the episode talking about what we should do to celebrate our upcoming 100th episode. We have had some pretty dumb ideas in the past like listening to all 100 episodes in a…
Making Magic and the Playing Card Revolution with Alex Pandrea
Jan 25, 2018 • 92 min
He is Blue Crown Magic, he is Alex Pandrea. He first got into magic when he was five years old. A clown came to his birthday party and did tricks like disappearing silk or sponge balls. But his interest continued into young adulthood. He grew up in New…
Becoming an Entertainer with David Williamson
Jan 18, 2018 • 66 min
David Williamson is an incredible comedy magician and sleight-of-hand master. He feels that he was bitten by the bug early and he had no other choice but to follow his passion. He was totally obsessed with it from a very early age. David was painfully…
Cardistry, Magic, and Getting Noticed with John Stessel
Jan 11, 2018 • 70 min
Our guest this week came across our Instagram feed a few months ago and we knew we had to have him on the podcast. His work as a cardist is truly awe-inspiring. John first got into magic after his family got him a magic kit when he was 8 years old. He…
New Year, New Magic
Jan 4, 2018 • 75 min
Welcome everyone to Episode 92 – our first episode of 2018! We both had a good New Year’s Eve. We relaxed with friends, some hors d’oeuvres and champagne. Last New Year’s we challenged ourselves to come up with some magical resolutions. Jonah resolved to…
Inner Secrets of Instagram Magic with Felix Bodden
Dec 28, 2017 • 62 min
Felix Bodden has appeared on Fool Us and has created a really popular Instagram feed. He first became interested when he was eight years old in 2001 – the same year that the first Harry Potter movie came out. But Felix became frustrated when he realized…
Making Good Magic Great with Tony Chang
Dec 21, 2017 • 82 min
We’ve been trying to get Tony Chang on the podcast for a long time and it’s finally happened! Jonah and Tony spent some time together and NYC recently. But this is the first time we have had the chance to talk to him about his history. Tony first fell in…
What Makes a Great Magic Product with Geraint Clarke
Dec 14, 2017 • 76 min
Geraint’s advice for a magician who wants to begin to sell illusions depends on what you want to accomplish. Some people just want to make as much as possible. But others want to be known and respected for creating quality magic. Networking with the magic…
Questions for Your Magic Mind
Dec 7, 2017 • 54 min
This episode is packed full of questions that we want YOU to answer! Join in the fun, leave a comment and let us know what you feel about these deep philosophical magic questions!
Instagram and the Cardistry Subculture with Sean O
Nov 30, 2017 • 73 min
Sean O is a master of cardistry and has achieved a lot at a very young age. Sean is only twenty years old but has been honing his skill since he was in grade school. He did his first paying gig was when he was nine. He performed at a five year olds…
Modern Magic and Why it Lives Online with Xavior Spade
Nov 23, 2017 • 74 min
Xavior Spade is making waves as one of the highest profile YouTube magicians. He is using live streaming to connect with an every-growing audience. Xavior found magic as a young person while growing up in Jamaica, Queens in New York City. But it was magic…
Understanding Magic with Garrett Thomas
Nov 16, 2017 • 102 min
Garrett Thomas is an incredible magician, an opinion that was confirmed recently when Jonah saw him perform at the Buffalo 52 magic convention. Garrett first fell in love with magic because of his father. His dad was a huge fan of magic and was friends…
Presentation, Effect Selection, and How to Practice with Allan Hagen
Nov 9, 2017 • 78 min
Allan thinks that young magicians should start out by learning from the masters. It would be foolish to ignore the classics. Work your way through Card College. There is enough knowledge there to last a lifetime. Eventually you will discover two or three…
Becoming a Death Defying Escape Artist with Demian Aditya
Oct 26, 2017 • 74 min
Demian Aditya has become world famous because of his insane escape acts. Demian first became interested in magic because of David Copperfield who was on TV regularly in his native Indonesia.
Busking for Magicians & Earning Your Chops with Billy Kidd
Oct 19, 2017 • 54 min
Billy has taken her background as a busker worldwide, regularly performing in Europe and on television. She trained as an actor in Edmonton and was almost totally disinterested in street performing and magic. That is until she saw Nick Nickolas performing…
No Hands, No Feet, No Excuses and No Limits with Mahdi Gilbert
Oct 12, 2017 • 68 min
On today’s episode, Mahdi Gilbert joins us to talk about the state of magic. He first got into magic as a little kid despite not having much exposure to it. He didn’t have a TV or internet but he had heard about magicians from other kids at school. His…
How to Create Magic Out of Tricks with Lawrence Hass
Sep 28, 2017 • 84 min
Lawrence Hass is the Associate Dean of the Magic and Mystery School in Las Vegas. We wanted to invite him on to talk about the theory of magic at its deepest level. Lawrence has a Ph.D. in philosophy and taught the subject for many years. As he was…
How to Grow Your Instagram Following for Magicians with Jeremy Griffith
Sep 21, 2017 • 68 min
You know him from his incredibly popular videos The BC Shuffle and The Instagram Sessions. Jeremy Griffith has popularized social media magic in a way no one else has. He’s developed a new way of performing magic online.
Everything You Need to Know about Gaffing Cards with @Gaffguy52
Sep 14, 2017 • 59 min
Jeremy Hanrahan is renowned in the magic community for his secret identity as @GaffGuy52. He started early and became completely obsessed. At first, he was a sleight of hand expert before he moved into gaffing. He started his career selling his gaff decks…
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants with Steve Reynolds
Aug 31, 2017 • 59 min
Steve Reynolds is a renowned New Orlean’s card magician who is obsessed with keeping the history of magic alive. But Steve doesn’t have a step-by-step advice about how to become a magician. He just did it. He was full of passion and obsessed with…
he Artist’s Journey with Zack Mirza
Aug 24, 2017 • 50 min
Zack Mirza has created a remarkable career both as a professional animator and a magician. He has animated a variety of children’s programs and his magic career was featured in the OLN series Illusion of Grandeur.
A Masterclass in Comedy Magic with Harrison Greenbaum
Aug 17, 2017 • 66 min
Harrison Greenbaum is the hardest working man in comedy and magic. His unique act has landed him slots on Last Comic Standing and America’s Got Talent. His career started early first as a stand-up comic who occasionally used magic in his sets when the…
Crafting Incredible Visuals with Glenn West
Aug 10, 2017 • 75 min
Our guest this week is Glenn West. Glenn is a fantastic magician who started his love affair with magic after being introduced to the craft by his father. Magic is constant presence in his life though he is not a working magician. Instead, he works as an…
Cardistry, Community, and Content Creation with Anna DeGuzman
Jul 27, 2017 • 76 min
In episode 69 we sit down with cardist Anna DeGuzman to talk magic, cardistry, content creation and much much more!
How to Benefit From Magic When it’s Not Your Career with Jason Dean
Jul 20, 2017
Jason is a rockstar magician. He is a rockstar - The drummer for Sidewise; a crazy metal band, as well as an accomplished and creative magician. Jason dives in with us to ways that you can benefit as a magician even if it isn’t your career.
The Laws of Magic and How to Give and Take Criticism with Michael Feldman
Jul 13, 2017
In episode 67 we sat down with the very brilliant Michael Feldman. Michael is a full time Lawyer as well as a recognized magician. He performs and creates fantastic magic that’s as knuckle-busting as it is baffling.
How to be Meticulous in Your Craft with Ryan Edwards
Jun 29, 2017
Ryan does it all! He’s written and performed two of his own magic shows. He’s advised and built props for top magicians around the world, and he most importantly he handcrafts tools (wallets, card clips, close up pads) for magicians looking to up their…
Falling in Love with Magic Again with Jeff Hinchliffe
Jun 22, 2017
Not all hero’s wear capes, and not all magicians live on the stage. Some can be found sitting at the table at the magic shop, shuffling cards, or creating some new magic.
Success by Word of Mouth, and Behind the Scenes TV Magic with Mark Calabrese
Jun 15, 2017
We brought on card mechanic and full time performer Mark Calabrese. Mark has released effects on all of the major online magic retailers with more coming this year. He’s an incredibly accomplished performer and in this episode he tells all about how he…
The Real Housewives of Toronto Magicians with Haley Carson, Karleena Kelly, and Natasha Hanna-Sawires
Jun 8, 2017
Check our more at http://discourseinmagic.com/ep62 OR Watch the video version of this podcast at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1aY97_yBGo
Magic in the Stand-up Comedy Circuit with Matt Disero
May 25, 2017
In this episode we sit down with Canadian Comedy Magic Icon Matt Disero. Matt is a hilarious Canadian comedy magician, who has made his way up through the comedy circuit.
From the Cinema to Centre Stage with Spidey
May 18, 2017
We brought on expert mentalist, hypnotist and rockstar entertainer Spidey. If you haven’t seen Spidey on Youtube, Facebook, or on TV you might have seen him at your local theatre.
The Magic of Apps with Marc Kerstein
May 11, 2017
In this episode we sit down with Marc Kerstein. If you haven’t used, or been fooled by one of Marcs magic apps, you’ve missed out. Marc is THE iphone magic app guy, and has been brought on to consult on multiple TV series including David Blaine’s most…
Helping Your Clients and Hearing Your Audience with Suzanne
Apr 27, 2017
To work in a restaurant magician you have to worry about more than just you magic. First you need to worry about how to get the gig, then you need to worry about how to satisfy your employer, then you have to make sure that you connect with each and every…
Pricing and Limiting Beliefs with Morgan Pierce
Apr 20, 2017
It’s been a long time coming to get my good friend Morgan Pierce to join us on the podcast. Morgan is a wildly talented magician turned financial advisor from Kingston, Ontario who joined us to chat about finances and limiting beliefs.
Networking for Magicians with Brian Miller
Apr 13, 2017
In episode 52 we chat with our first guest of “motivation month”. The point of the month is to give you the motivation you need to get off of your ass and start fighting gigs.
Magic in Toronto with Ben Train, Rosemary Reid, Chris Mayhew, and Mark Correia
Mar 30, 2017
Boo Ya everybody we made it to Episode 52! To celebrate we invited over four of our closest Toronto magic friends to talk about Toronto magic in the past, present, and future.
Tools and Tips to Make Your Comedy Magic FIRE with John Archer
Mar 23, 2017
John Archer brought everything that we wanted and more in this episode all about comedy magic. He answered the questions with real world practical answers. We all know now that the answer to getting really good, is performing a lot. We tried to push past…
How to Become an Unstoppable Old School Entertainer with Gazzo
Mar 16, 2017 • 60 min
In this episode the one and only Gazzo talks to us about everything it takes to be a top notch performer. It’s nothing like studying books and books, or learning the trick of the week (sound familiar?) Gazzo explains what people are doing wrong, and how…
How to Get Noticed as a Performer with The Sentimentalists (Mysterion & Steffi Kay)
Mar 9, 2017 • 88 min
In this episode we are joined by the very mysterious Mysterion and the fantastic and fashionable Steffi Kay! These two are a mind reading duo from Toronto who are BLOWING UP! People are always asking how to “get out there” as a magician. Well they know…
Entertainment Value and Finding Your Shtick with David Malek
Feb 23, 2017
In episode 47 we sit down with David Malek to talk about being entertaining. Even though David is one of the most skilled card-men alive, that’s not his most interesting feature. It’s his entertainment value! If you’ve never seen THE KING perform live,…
The Napkin Approach and Enjoying the Process with John Guastaferro
Feb 16, 2017 • 65 min
We sit down with John Guastaferro, and dive into creating a great effect! As always to make amazing magic you need to be incredibly self aware. You need to understand who you are, what you like, what you don’t like and why! I asked John to dive into “The…
Episode 45 – Scripting and Working with a Director with Nick Wallace
Feb 9, 2017
Nick Wallace spills the beans on exactly how scripting a show creates an incredibly powerful experience for your audience! In this episode he breaks down exactly how he works with a director and why he would never create a show without it.
The Effect Month: Props, Identity, and Paying Your Dues with James Harrison
Feb 2, 2017 • 99 min
In this episode our friend and the January contest winner James Harrison joins us to talk about identity, props, and paying your dues. The most important topic is identity, because it helps sort out everything else. Your identity, who you are as a…
Using Magic to Spread an Important Message with Chad Juros
Jan 26, 2017 • 72 min
In episode 43 Chad tells us his story that starts from his childhood. He was 3 years old when he was hospitalized with acute lymphoblastic leukaemia. During many of his years and months at the hospital Chads father brought magic to help take his mind off…
Live in Toronto – Views, Comments, and Awesome Magic Content with Chris Ramsay, Eric Leclerc, and Wes Barker
Jan 19, 2017 • 79 min
Welcome to our first LIVE SHOW ever! In Episode 42 Wes Barker, Eric Leclerc and Chris Ramsay come to Toronto to record our first live event! We got to relax kick back have some drinks and talk magic with these superstars. Separately their material has…
Secrets to Outreach and Building Relationships with Caroline Ravn
Jan 12, 2017
In Episode 41 Caroline sits down with us to chat all about her success and how she’s reached here. One of the key points that she mentions is being a lifelong student, and that is one of the keys to Ravn success. Working with the best, engaging with…
Why Being Sincere Means Connecting with Your Audience with Asi Wind
Dec 29, 2016 • 74 min
In episode 39 we chat with Asi Wind about the importance of caring about the magic that you create. Too often, people do standard effects with standard presentations that don’t resonate with themselves. So why do they think it will resonate with their…
How to Master Fringe Festivals with Keith Brown
Dec 22, 2016 • 76 min
We sit down with our old friend Keith Brown to chat all about everything you need to know about fringe festivals. If you’re looking to find out how to get on a fringe festival, how to succeed at one, how to sell tickets or why you would want to do one,…
How to Make Your Show About You with Chris Funk
Dec 15, 2016 • 61 min
The amazing Chris Funk joins us on episode 37 to chat all about why making your show around yourself is the best thing you can do for your magic. Chris is someone who seems to have attained major success, and he has reached that level of success just by…
The Value of a Great Introduction and How to Tweak Your Show with James Alan
Dec 8, 2016 • 82 min
In this episode we sit down with a great friend James Alan from the famous “Magic Tonight” show from Toronto. Since he’s a fan of the show it was a blast to chat with him on the podcast and tackle some of the things we mentioned in episode 35. James has…
Tools, Tips, and Tricks to Having TV Quality Magic with Justin Willman
Nov 24, 2016
You know him from Comedy Network! You’ve watched his Viral Videos! You know him Cupcake Wars (okay maybe not) the one and only Justin Willman joins us on the podcast!
Magic Consulting and Making Your Own Inspiration with Daniel Garcia
Nov 17, 2016 • 79 min
With perfect timing, days after the David Blaine special airs, Tyler and I sit down with our old friend Daniel Garcia. He chats with us about what it’s like to consult, and some tips and activities he uses to inspire his creativity and inspiration. If you…
Magicians Guide to Mastering Every Social Media Platform with Justin Flom
Nov 10, 2016
Hey, thanks for reading this! Let me tell you all about the episode. We chat with Justin Flom about every form of media around, and how a maigican can make the most out of it: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, Vine (dead), TV, Books. Since he’s done…
Expert Online Marketing Tools and Tips for Magicians with Julian Mather
Oct 27, 2016 • 58 min
In this episode we sit down with the Magic podcast king himself Julian Mather. Julian gives us astounding tips on the specific tools that a magician can use to help boost their business, especially online! If you liked this episode you can head to…
Getting Booked with Branding, Taglines and Straight Up Tenacity with Wes Barker
Oct 20, 2016 • 68 min
In this episode we chat with Wes about secrets of branding yourself and exactly how to have the tenacity to make enough cold calls to get yourself booked. Wes is the type of guy that get’s things done. He sets up his own shows for his own videographers,…
Exactly What it Takes to Get Endless Bookings with Lou Serrano
Oct 13, 2016 • 77 min
WOW! If you’re a magician looking to get booked more, this is for you. Lou Serrano gives us endless tips, information, ideas, strategies, and honestly the straight up truth about exactly what it takes to get a ton of bookings. Lou knows his stuff, since…
Creativity Through Self Expression Instead of Endless Resources with Mathieu Bich
Sep 22, 2016
The one and only Mathieu Bich spoke with us about his creative process. It seems like his approach as more to do with ignoring the information in the public eye, and using the power of the mind to solve problems. He also is a creator for the sake of…
Why Magic is Flirtatious, and How to Treat it That Way with Daniel Fernandez
Sep 15, 2016
We’re very excited to be able to sit down with Youtube star Daniel Fernandez. If you haven’t yet it’s worth checking out his videos on youtube. We chat with him about creativity in magic, and how one can be creative in any part. He tells us why he thinks…
How to be Creative and Original with Methods with Chris Wiehl
Sep 8, 2016 • 73 min
In this episode we sit down with Chris Wiehl in his car to talk all about his creative process for creating new methods. His approach is a more gradual approach where method, evolves over time through conversation, interaction, knowledge, and compromise.…
How to Fool Penn & Teller and Win FISM… Twice with Shawn Farquhar
Aug 25, 2016 • 95 min
In this Episode we go up to Magic Camp with the Magic Champ - the one and only Shawn Farquhar to talk all about how he fooled Penn and Teller TWICE. Shawn has performed for more audiences, from different backgrounds, for different reasons, in more places…
Why Mentalism is More Relatable for Audiences Than Magic with Bobby Motta
Aug 18, 2016 • 62 min
In this Episode we got to sit down with our friend Bobby Motta to talk about the ups and downs of mentalism. He speaks about his intentions, what he wants his audience to take from the show, and why he ended up picking mentalism over magic. I would…
Why Risk Your Life on a Stunt and How To Try It At Home with Scott Hammell
Aug 11, 2016 • 60 min
In this Episode we sit down with our long time friends Scott Hammell to talk all about doing stunts. In the episode he chats all about why he does stunts, what he hopes to learn from them, a couple of horror stories, and advice for people who are actually…
Art of Magic, Art of Play and The Importance of Style and Design with Dave Buck and Elliott Terral
Jul 28, 2016 • 48 min
In this episode we sat down with Dave Buck, and Elliott Terral from Art of Magic (Dan couldn’t may make it) to talk all about art. Thankfully they know art, with their evolving projects Art of Magic, and Art of Play. We chat about cardistry, and the…
How to Add Comedy to Your Magic Without Hack Lines with Mark Corriea
Jul 21, 2016 • 100 min
In this episode we chat with Mark Correia about adding comedy to your magic. Mark is the funniest person we have ever seen on a stage, and he gives us some great tips on how to add comedy to your magic. We look at it from the perspective of acting and…
Women in Magic with Rosemary Reid
Jul 14, 2016
In this Episode we sit down with our good friend, and incredible close-up magician Rosemary Reid. We talk about some of the challenges, and benefits, and just the unique aspects that comes from being a female in a male dominant industry. If you want to…
The Future of IBM and the Importance of Theatre in Magic with Oscar Munoz
Jun 30, 2016 • 65 min
In this Episode we sit down with the always hilarious Oscar Munoz to talk about the future of IBM and the importance of theatre in magic. If you like it/ agree/ disagree, or jus want to talk about magic go to www.discourseinmagic.com and leave a comment!
A Journey From Technique to Theory Through Friends and Mentors with Simon Black
Jun 23, 2016 • 87 min
In this episode we sat down with Simon Black to talk all about his more recent journey deeper into the world of magic theory and even digging into the Spanish style of magic It was packed with some great conversations about magic theory, and if you want…
How to be a Great Teacher, Mentor and Student of Magic with Aaron Fisher and Adam Grace
Jun 16, 2016 • 65 min
In this episode we had a blast sitting down with Aaron Fisher and Adam Grace from Conjuror Community. We spoke all about how to be a good student or teacher, and the blurry lines between the two. We get to go in great detail of the origins of their…
Playing Card Innovation and Economy in the Era of Crowdfunding with Lee Asher
Jun 9, 2016 • 67 min
We went to Lee Ashers house, ate some delicious food, and learned a TON about playing cards. Lee is an expert in all things playing cards, and since he’s a collector he knows all about the innovation and exciting news from the past few years as…
Magic Shops, Camps and Friends
Jun 2, 2016 • 64 min
In this episode we chat with Jeff Pinsky from the Browsers Den of Magic, Mike Segal from Sorcerers Safari, and Ben Train from…..Toronto all about great magic communities. These 3 people are massive players in the magic communities that have contributed to…
Performing Tips for the Working Magician, From Restaurants to Big Illusions with Chris Westfall
May 26, 2016 • 46 min
In this episode we chat with our friend Chris Westfall talking about his progress through magic. From starting out in restaurant, towards his comedy show and birthday parties, and finally his large illusion show. If you liked the episode, and you want to…
Ethics and Morals for the Modern Magician with Ben Train
May 19, 2016 • 73 min
In this Episode Jonah Babins and Tyler Williams Chat about creating a fictional premise that people will want to believe in and making good conflict. As well we get to do some comparison between magic and theater as well as television, when we discuss…
Designing magic for the screen and the stage with Patrick Kun
May 5, 2016 • 57 min
In this episode we speak with Patrick Kun about how he creates magic for youtube that is tasteful for both magicians and laypeople. He takes us through the making of each of his valentines day episodes and his time working with David Copperfield, and…
Improv and being open to change with Chris Mayhew
Apr 29, 2016 • 57 min
In this Episode we head over to Chris Mayhew’s house to chat magic, improv and yellow fever. Check it out, and other awesome info at www.discourseinmagic.com
Personality, character and connecting with your audience with Eric Leclerc
Apr 27, 2016 • 59 min
In Episode 3 we chat with Eric LeClerc about how to develop your character from the inside out. He tells us some awesome stories and is wildly helpful with his opinions on building a character Check out the show notes, and more info at…
Going viral, the Reddit secret, and Rubik’s cubes with Steven Brundage
Apr 23, 2016 • 61 min
In this episode Steven Brundage shares how he was able to go viral with his cop video, Penn and Teller Fool Us video, and Cube3 while giving us insider info about his next TV appearance. Check out the show notes, and more info at www.discourseinmagic.com
Introduction Episode
Apr 20, 2016 • 17 min
Jonah and Tyler explain who they are and what discourse in magic is all about.