This Working Life

This Working Life

www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/this-working-life
Lisa Leong helps you navigate your way through the tough times, looking for the sunshine and the humanity in the world of work. From the quirky to the somewhat controversial, experts in the world of work and business share their ideas, experiments and…


The Bonus: Nailing a virtual job interview
Oct 20 • 9 min
Virtual job interviews are a different beast so we get the lowdown on how to ace an interview in this ultra-competitive market.
Hacking happiness at work
Oct 18 • 24 min
What WILL and WON’T lead to happiness at work.
Your boss may be watching you, surveillance technology and WFH
Oct 11 • 25 min
Like it or not, your employer has the right to track and measure just about everything you do in your work day. But should they, is it helpful or does it simply kill motivation? In the second episode of our series on Big Brother at work, we examine how…
THE BONUS: our productivity review, hits and misses
Oct 6 • 19 min
What does productivity have to do with sex? Listen to find out.
The rise of Big Brother at work
Oct 4 • 25 min
With more of us working from home, many companies are increasingly using time tracking software or surveillance technologies that allow employers to check what you’re up to whenever and wherever you are, even if you don’t work at a desk. So how are you…
THE BONUS - corporate culture lessons from Uber on what not to do
Sep 29 • 10 min
Uber’s is a story of hubris, greed and toxic culture culminating in a coup.
An angel on your shoulder, how finding the right mentor can change your career
Sep 27 • 25 min
To have someone who truly believes in you is career and life changing.
The Bonus: Givers and Takers
Sep 22 • 12 min
Are you a giver or a taker and why does it matter at work? We are still loving nerding out on non-fiction books for work. This week entrepreneur and non-executive director Catherine Robson brings one of her favourite books to the table - it’s Wharton…
Unlocking the keys to deep listening at work
Sep 20 • 25 min
Listening is key to our survival as a species but it’s also key in furthering your career.
The Bonus: Life in the Woods
Sep 15 • 8 min
Books to get you through work in a pandemic.
The art and science of brainstorming and why so many get it so wrong
Sep 13 • 25 min
When your boss mentions “brainstorming” what do you picture - rapid, creative, ideas generation or death by Post-It note?
The Bonus: learnings from Holocaust survivor Viktor Frankl
Sep 8 • 6 min
We nerd out on non-fiction books that can make us better at work with Steph Clarke, facilitator and host of the podcast Steph’s Business Bookshelf. Steph’s pick is Man’s Search for Meaning: The classic tribute to hope from the Holocaust by Austrian…
Avoiding the conclusion trap
Sep 6 • 25 min
Slow. It. Down. Is one of the key things to help make good decisions.
All aboard! Starting and departing jobs remotely
Aug 30 • 25 min
Virtual meetings are tough enough, but imagine starting a new job where you can’t meet your new team members face-to-face. We hear some disaster stories but also how to best help workers start a new job or finish up including: * the benefits of “coffee…
The four-day work week: Utopian ideal or secret weapon to survive the COVID-19 recession?
Aug 23 • 25 min
A trifecta of CEOs share why they introduced the four-day work week to their companies, how it has actually helped them navigate the economic downturn, and hard lessons learnt along the way. GUESTS: Andrew Barnes, CEO Perpetual Guardian, Kath Blackham CEO…
Working from home due to COVID-19 — is the honeymoon over?
Aug 16 • 25 min
What have we learnt from being forced into working from home en masse and how will it shape the way we work into the future?
Marrying love and ambition, couples and careers
Aug 9 • 25 min
What are the crucial conversations every couple must have for their marriage and their career to survive?
Power up for work with deliberate rest
Aug 2 • 25 min
Rest and hobbies can make you more creative and productive at work.
THE BONUS: what I wish I had known as a young doctor
Jul 28 • 7 min
Words of wisdom from lived experience.
Nir Eyal on taking control of technology to become “indistractible”
Jul 26 • 25 min
Do you have trouble focussing on a work task because of distraction, especially by the endless pings and dings of your phone and computer? You are not alone. We find out how to turn the secrets behind habit-forming products like your mobile phone, and…
THE BONUS - Nir Eyal’s tips to hack back your time and attention
Jul 21 • 10 min
The Bonus is our little offering of hump-day help to get you through these trying times at work.
The power of everyday routines to boost your work life
Jul 19 • 25 min
Routines are more than just repeating the same thing every day, they’re important for us to grow, work better and live healthier. So how do you make one that works for you, and stick to it? And what can we learn from religious rituals when it comes to…
THE BONUS: staying sane in lockdown, again.
Jul 14 • 6 min
Second time around will be even tougher here are some strategies to cope.
Tips to supercharge your brain for work
Jul 12 • 24 min
What to eat, how to move for peak brain power.
THE BONUS - coming back after burnout
Jul 7 • 6 min
Message from someone out the other side on dealing with burnout.
‘I was stuck in my bed – all I could do is cry.’ Is COVID making you burn out at work?
Jul 5 • 25 min
Is COVID-19 making you push yourself too far at work? Could you be at risk of burnout? We explore what causes burnout, how to recognise and deal with it and how burnout can even become deadly. GUESTS Professor Michael Leiter has extensively researched the…
THE BONUS - Never work with children, animals, or friends of friends
Jun 30 • 5 min
Hump day help for these stressful times in our new bonus episodes. In business you need to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em, know when to walk away and know when to run. Especially in the world of fashion. Something investor Roanne McGinley…
Failure is not a dirty word
Jun 28 • 24 min
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts,” according to Winston Churchill. So when is a mistake a failure? How do we avoid failure becoming fatal and could failing actually be good for our careers?…
Know your rights and artfully negotiate to get the working life you want
Jun 21 • 25 min
Which of the following is legal: Your boss can ask you to work more hours than usual to “earn” jobkeeper, your boss can force you to take annual leave, or your boss can make you take leave without pay? Jobkeeper legislation has temporarily rewritten the…
An angel on your shoulder, how finding the right mentor can change your career
Jun 14 • 25 min
To have someone who truly believes in you is career and life changing.
We’re Back! Returning to the workplace after COVID-19
Jun 7 • 25 min
Is it safe to go back? How should it be managed? Will your skirt/pants still fit or is an emergency shopping trip on the cards? As restrictions begin to ease around the country, businesses are grappling with how to transition employees back to the office…
Pivoting in a pandemic, finding a job in an ultra-competitive market
May 31 • 25 min
Expert insights and tips on how to bag your next role or career move if you have been stood down or been sacked due to Covid-19.
Harnessing the power of atomic habits to break bad habits and build good ones
May 24 • 25 min
Never underestimate the power of habits, especially the teeny, tiny ones we repeat every day, the ones author James Clear calls “atomic habits”. We discuss Clear’s ideas of how we can harness habits to perform better at work especially in these stressful…
Emotional agility key in dealing with COVID-19
May 17 • 25 min
Emotions at work - do you repress or ruminate? Both could be dangerous for your career.
Lisa Leong has 20 biohacks, here’s another four
May 10 • 25 min
We sort fact from wishful thinking when it comes to some of the bio hacks Lisa that she feels is helping her do her best work while working from home in these uncertain times.
If not THAT then WHO? The loss of self worth and identity when jobs evaporate
May 3 • 25 min
For many, losing their job will be not only an economic crisis but a psychological one.
Can struggle be a gift?
Apr 26 • 25 min
Can the lessons from life’s struggles help lead you though the chaos of COVID times?
When WFH collides with schooling at home the game has to change
Apr 19 • 25 min
PPT (paid pajama time), WFH - whatever you want to call it - for many of us, it’s the first time we’ve been forced to work outside the office environment. NOW for many school’s at home too. This week, some ways to survive.
Unlocking the keys to deep listening
Apr 12 • 25 min
Listening is key to our survival as a species but it’s also key in furthering your career.
Bold leadership in the time of COVID-19
Apr 5 • 25 min
What do we need from our leaders right now? How should our bosses be communicating with us and what should they be saying, and NOT saying, in the midst of this corona virus crisis?
What you’re feeling amid the coronavirus crisis is probably grief
Mar 29 • 25 min
The COVID-19 pandemic is impacting our mental AND physical health and much of what many of us are feeling has a name, and that name is grief.
How to co-work from home with your partner
Mar 22 • 25 min
Many people have be thrust into remote working alongside their partners for the first time. So how can you immunise your relationship?
Marrying love and ambition, couples and careers
Mar 15 • 25 min
What are the crucial conversations every couple must have for their marriage and their career to survive?
Coronavirus preppers at work
Mar 8 • 25 min
We separate fact from fiction when it comes to prepping for the coronavirus at work.
What can we learn from our northern neighbours about work
Mar 1 • 25 min
Solutions to Australia’s biggest problems exist, we just need to know where to look.
Lunch with 100 strangers could change your life
Feb 23 • 25 min
Lunching with strangers helped Kaley Chu find her voice. How far would you go to build your network?
Culture Club: turning a toxic work culture around
Feb 16 • 25 min
Can you measure and then fix workplace culture?
Work-life balance is dead, hello integration
Feb 9 • 34 min
So work-life balance is dead but before we kill it off, what is work-life integration and what are the risks and benefits for the employee and company?
The secret powers of the quiet leader
Feb 2 • 25 min
What do Barack Obama, Elon Musk and Hillary Clinton all have in common? They are all famous American leaders but they are also self-professed introverts. So what can we learn about leadership from the quiet folk around us?
Workplace motivation isn’t just about pizzas and beer (although that helps)
Jan 26 • 25 min
How do you find your work mojo now that your holiday halo has started to dim?
Do open plan offices encourage collaboration? Computer says “no”.
Jan 19 • 25 min
Data showed a 70 per cent reduction in face-to face-interactions when two Fortune 500 companies move from private offices to open plan. Harvard Business School’s Ethan Bernstein conducted the research and he explains how he tracked interactions using…
Embracing the courage to be disliked
Jan 13 • 25 min
Why seeking approval and being competitive at work won’t bring you happiness.
Lisa Leong uses 20 bio hacks
Jan 6 • 25 min
Which biohacks improve work performance and which are a waste of time and money?
What can Russia teach us about the art of negotiation
Dec 30, 2019 • 25 min
When you walk into a room what does your body language and voice say about you? If you want something from a personal or business transaction, what is the best way of going about it?
The power of a good mentor
Dec 23, 2019 • 25 min
Mentors hold up mirrors to you, they challenge and guide you, nurture your talents and can change your working life. So what makes a good one?
Leading with words
Dec 16, 2019 • 25 min
While many of us might fear public speaking even just at a work morning tea, stepping up to the job can make or break your career, especially for those at the top.
Is this the end of work as we know it?
Dec 9, 2019 • 25 min
With AI and technological advances changing our employment landscape, what does it mean for the way we earn a crust? Could a basic income for all be the answer?
Taming the advice monster for effective coaching at work
Dec 2, 2019 • 24 min
How to become more “coachlike” and seven questions to ask to get the best out of your people.
What can wild animals teach us about good leadership?
Nov 25, 2019 • 25 min
On in this episode of This Working Life we are communing with the animals with zoo keepers at Sydney’s Taronga Zoo and emeritus senior curator, Erna Walraven, whose new book is called “Wild Leadership-what wild animals teach us about leadership”.
In search of meaningful work, and the end of the CV
Nov 18, 2019 • 24 min
We go on a search for meaning in our working lives and ask, is it time to jettison the CV?
Biohacking your way to your best work
Nov 11, 2019 • 26 min
Can biohacks help your performance at work or are they an expensive con?
Unlimited paid leave, holacracies and other innovations with Amantha Imber
Nov 4, 2019 • 25 min
Walking the talk, innovation in action.
How we all can get along, and other leadership lessons across generations
Oct 28, 2019 • 25 min
What is your working style, and how much do you think your age has influenced it?
Netflix staff find freedom in failure through the power of improv at work
Oct 21, 2019 • 25 min
We drop in on a improv session run by the master Dan Klein from Stanford University, to hear how ‘applied improvisation’ has changed the dynamics in Netflix’s multicultural global team. Bill Holmes chief business development officer at Netflix said once…
Australia Talks about the migrant experience of work
Oct 14, 2019 • 25 min
Have you ever had to move and find a new job? What if that move was thousands of kilometres away from your home-town and friends, or even the country of your birth? That’s the experience of the many people who migrate to Australia each year, and the ABC’s…
Susan David on why you need emotional agility at work
Oct 7, 2019 • 25 min
Emotions at work - do you repress or ruminate? Both could be dangerous for your career.
Caring for the mental health of small business owners
Sep 30, 2019 • 25 min
When you own your own business the buck stops with you. At times it can be a stressful, and isolating world, so how can we better support small business owners to look after their mental health?
Is the side hustle a gift or a curse?
Sep 23, 2019 • 24 min
What happens when a job on the side becomes less of a love affair, and more a necessity?
To Be or Not to B Corp
Sep 16, 2019 • 25 min
Is it truly possible to mix profit and purpose?
Goodbye stress, hello chill- and being a funeral celebrant on the side
Sep 9, 2019 • 25 min
How a Start up reinvented its management style, plus the funeral celebrant on the edge.
Does science trump intuition in hiring the best person?
Sep 2, 2019 • 25 min
One in five external hires don’t work out, at an estimated cost of two years’ salary. So what role can psychometric testing play and does science trump intuition when it comes to hiring the best fit for a job?
Navigating ethical conundrums in the workplace
Aug 26, 2019 • 24 min
How do you define your own moral compass? What considerations do you ponder when faced with issues of right and wrong in your working life?
How do we tackle loneliness at work?
Aug 19, 2019 • 25 min
Workplace loneliness is reaching epidemic proportions. It’s as bad for your health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. So what can be done?
What can Russia teach us about the art of negotiation
Aug 12, 2019 • 25 min
When you walk into a room what does your body language and voice say about you? If you want something from a personal or business transaction, what is the best way of going about it?
Gender equality at work starts at home
Aug 5, 2019 • 25 min
If we want men and women to have equal footing both at work and at home, we need to embrace flexible work. Dr Inga Lass is a research fellow at the Melbourne Institute at the University of Melbourne, and co-author of the HILDA report. She discusses the…
Finbar O’Hanlon, purveyor of different
Jul 29, 2019 • 25 min
Hear how the “power of different” can supercharge your work life - from decisions at board level to individual careers.
Canine friends help turn company around
Jul 22, 2019 • 25 min
Find out how to build a happy workplace and how to deal with toxicity. Brand Collective owns some of Australia’s best known footwear and clothing brands. After it separated from Pacific Brands and became an independent company, its CEO, Martin Matthews,…
What Martians can teach us about work
Jul 15, 2019 • 25 min
The hardest ever HR job, selecting people for a one-way mission to Mars.
Robot lawyers, dumb AI and besties at work
Jul 8, 2019 • 25 min
Artificial intelligence is spreading in workplaces, from the legal industry to truck driving. To find out just what that might mean for you, we revisit our chat with Chrissie Lightfoot, the inventor of the world’s first robot lawyer, Robot Lawyer Lisa, we…
“You’re fired!” Surviving the sack, and the benefits of a career break
Jul 1, 2019 • 25 min
Andrea Clarke thought she was doing the right thing when she warned a large US aid agency against misappropriating government funds. For her diligence, she was sacked. Andrea Clarke is a former journalist who was working as Head of Communications for one…