Start Making Sense

Start Making Sense
Political talk without the boring parts—featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the week in news. Hosted by Jon Wiener and presented by The Nation Magazine.

Trump’s Terrible Poll Numbers: Jeet Heer on the campaign, plus J. Hoberman on Reagan and the movies
Aug 21 • 39 min
Bernie or Bust? Harold Meyerson on DSA, plus Katha Pollitt on Jeffrey Epstein and John Nichols on White Nationalism
Aug 14 • 38 min
America After El Paso: Joan Walsh on Trump, plus Katha Pollitt on Protest and D.D. Guttenplan on the Green New Deal
Aug 7 • 40 min
Trump’s Escalating Racism: A Sign of Political Desperation? Harold Meyerson, plus Jeet Heer on Al Franken and Paul Krassner remembered
Jul 31 • 42 min
Is Trump Crazy? Would Pence be Worse? Amy Wilentz & Jane Mayer, plus EJ Dionne: America After Trump
Jul 24 • 47 min
Democracy Is Not Well: Astra Taylor, plus Katha Pollitt on Travel to Mars
Jul 17 • 38 min
Joy-Ann Reid: How Trump Happened; plus Amy Wilentz on Jared’s Mid-East Peace Plan
Jul 10 • 36 min
Joe Biden has No Place to Go Except Down: Robert Borosage on politics, plus Martin Duberman on the lost world of gay liberation
Jul 3 • 36 min
Elizabeth Warren’s American Story: Joan Walsh on the senator, plus Jeet Heer on Joe Biden and Andrew Bacevich on Mideast Wars
Jun 26 • 40 min
Elizabeth Warren is Leading in the Ideas Primary: Katrina vanden Heuvel, plus John Nichols on Bernie and Socialism and Sasha Abramsky on Florida
Jun 19 • 40 min
Trump or Brexit: Which is Worse? DD Guttenplan on politics, plus John Nichols with Rashida Tlaib and Katha Pollitt on abortion and men
Jun 12 • 43 min
The Missing Candidate in California: Joe Biden—David Dayen on the Primaries, plus Bruce Shapiro on Assange and Ezra Levin on the Indivisible Pledge
Jun 5 • 37 min
Daniel Ellsberg: Espionage and Julian Assange; plus Robert Pollin on Medicare for All and Alyssa Battistoni on Climate Politics
May 29 • 40 min
The New York Times vs. Bernie: Amy Wilentz on media bias, plus John Nichols on Ilhan Omar and Karen Greenberg on government secrecy
May 22 • 42 min
What Joe Biden Has In Common with Donald Trump: Harold Meyerson, plus Michael Ames on Bowe Bergdahl and Laila Lalami on ‘The Other Americans’
May 15 • 43 min
Joe Biden has one thing in common with Donald Trump: a campaign promising “restoration” of a lost past, rather than the kind of transformation we need to deal with our current problems— That’s what Harold Meyerson says. Of course the past Biden wants to…
The New Voters of 2020 and the Democrats: Steve Phillips, plus Ben Ehrenreich on Climate and Commerce and Amy Wilentz on Haiti’s Notre Dame
May 8 • 40 min
For the 2020 election, we’ve been focusing mostly on the candidates who want to challenge Trump – but we also need to consider the voters, and the changes in the electorate since 2016. Especially significant: young people of color. Steve Phillips explains…
Does it Have to Be Biden? Joan Walsh on the Candidates, plus Joshua Holland on Impeachment and Peter Richardson on Carey McWilliams
May 1 • 41 min
When Joe Biden finally declared his candidacy, he immediately pulled way out in front in the polls of Democratic candidates. The polls also show him the one most likely to beat Trump. Joan Walsh points to some of the problems with Biden, and considers the…
‘We’re capable of doing remarkable things to combat climate change’: Bill McKibben plus Richard J. Evans on Eric Hobsbawm
Apr 24 • 38 min
What can we do to reduce the speed of climate change? Bill McKibben argues that we’re at a bleak moment in human history — and we’ll either confront that bleakness, or watch the civilization our forebears built slip away. Bill was one of the first people…
Trump’s Tax Returns: Why We Will See Them, and What We Will Find: David Cay Johnston, plus Zoe Carpenter on plastics and Laurie Winer on Stephen Miller
Apr 17 • 41 min
The chair of the House Ways and Means Committee formally requested six years of Trump’s personal & business tax returns earlier this month. Trump has said he won’t do it—and that the law is “100 per cent” on his side. He’s 100 per cent wrong about that.…
Kirsten Gillibrand’s Journey to the Left: Joan Walsh, plus Eric Foner on Reconstruction and Amy Wilentz on Jared Kushner
Apr 10 • 42 min
Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, and Elizabeth Warren are the women in the Senate who have announced campaigns for the Democratic nomination—and Gillibrand is running on Medicare for All and a Green New Deal. She started out in Congress…
Stacey Abrams: How We Fight for the Right to Vote; plus Harold Meyerson on the Trouble with Beto
Apr 3 • 37 min
* When Stacey Abrams ran for governor of Georgia last November as the first African-American and the first woman candidate, she got more votes than any Democrat in Georgia history, including Obama and Hillary Clinton. She tripled Latino turnout; she…
Don’t Trust Barr on the Mueller Report: John Nichols; Plus Greg Grandin on Trump’s Wall and Adam Hochschild on Woodrow Wilson
Mar 27 • 40 min
Nobody should be satisfied with Attorney General William Barr’s account of the Mueller report, says John Nichols. We had assumed that the independent counsel’s investigation into obstruction of justice would conclude one way or the other. Instead we have…
College Admissions Scams, from Jared Kushner to the Present: Amy Wilentz, plus Medicaid in Arkansas and Abortion in Mississippi
Mar 20 • 41 min
50 people in six states were accused by the Justice Department last week of taking part in a major college admission scandal. They include Hollywood stars and business leaders, who paid bribes to elite college coaches. But that’s not the way Jared Kushner…
How to Beat Trump in 2020: John Nichols on Strategy, Michael Kazin on Southern Democrats, and Katha Pollitt on Women
Mar 13 • 42 min
The Democrats’ picking Milwaukee for their convention in 2020 indicates how that Wisconsin is a key battleground the party must win in order to recapture the White House. John Nichols talks about what it going to take for the Democrats to carry…
Bill McKibben: From Coal and Gas to Wind and Sun; plus Maia Szalavitz on the Opioid Epidemic and Sean Wilentz on Impeachment
Mar 6 • 42 min
To replace coal and oil, do we need nuclear power? Is switching from coal powered electric plants to natural gas a step in the right direction? And what lessons can we draw from the recent victories—and setbacks—for the climate movement in California?…
Michelle Goldberg: The Time is Right for a Green New Deal; plus George Zornick on Elizabeth Warren and Michael Walzer on Movement Politics
Feb 27 • 42 min
Trump’s presidency is not the end of Democracy, as some of our friends have suggested. Instead we are seeing the end of a political cycle, the one that began in 1980 with Reagan. And now, it’s time for something new—and that could be a Green New Deal. New…
Naomi Klein: To Fight Climate Change, We Have to Radically Rethink What Is Possible; plus Dahlia Lithwick on Trump’s ‘Emergency’ and Manuel Pastor on Calif. vs. Trump
Feb 20 • 41 min
Naomi Klein says the Green New Deal needs to follow the example of the New Deal of the 1930s, when nothing would have happened without “massive pressure from social movements” that “changed the calculus of what was possible.” Naomi is a contributing…
Child Care for All belongs on the Progressive Agenda Katha Pollitt, plus David Klion on Bernie’s foreign policy and Antony Loewenstein on Afghanistan
Feb 13 • 39 min
Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, free college tuition, a $15 minimum wage – and how about adding Child care for all to the Progressive agenda? That’s Katha Pollitt’s proposal—she argues it will help huge numbers of people. Also: Bernie’s foreign…
The State of the Union is Not Good: John Nichols on Trump, plus Sasha Abramsky on TPS and Elizabeth Kolbert on climate change
Feb 6 • 36 min
John Nichols says Trump’s State of the Union speech Tuesday night was “cynical and crude.” Also: Temporary Protected Status – “TPS” - has allowed immigrants and refugees from half a dozen countries with terrible problems to stay in the US for decades –…
Trump’s Wall—and the Walls of the Future: Atossa Araxia Abrahamian on Borders, Joan Walsh on Pramila Jayapal, and Harold Meyerson on Politics after the Shutdown
Jan 30 • 36 min
The battle between Democrats and Trump over a border wall was a disagreement about symbolism, not policy, Atossa Araxia Abrahamian argues; the borders of the future won’t be as easy to spot as the wall that Trump is proposing. And the new borders going up…
2019 Will Be the Worst Year of Trump’s Life: John Nichols on politics, Sarah Jaffe on the LA teachers strike, and Sean Wilentz on slavery and the constitution
Jan 23 • 42 min
What will 2019 be like for Trump? Will it be like Nixon in 1974—the Watergate year, which ended with his resignation? Or more like Clinton in 1998—the Monica year, which culminated with an impeachment trial in the Senate in 1999? He won that vote easily…
The anti-immigrant temptation on the left: David Adler on politics, Pedro Noguera on the LA teachers strike, and Kate Aronoff on the battle of ideas
Jan 16 • 39 min
A political movement combining a left-wing economic program with anti-immigrant initiatives: it’s developing right now in Germany and France – could it happen here? David Adler explains: he’s the Policy Coordinator for the European Spring — Europe’s first…
The Issues Republicans Are Afraid to Touch: Harold Meyerson on Politics, plus Aaron Maté on Russiagate and Alex Press on Amazon workers
Jan 9 • 39 min
Now that the Democrats are in charge in the House of Representatives, Harold Meyerson says, we can learn a lot about progressive political opportunities by studying “the Republican dogs that didn’t bark in the night” – the political issues Republicans…
The Best of 2018: Seymour Hersh on Trump, Barbara Ehrenreich on ‘Wellness,’ and Amos Oz Remembered
Jan 2 • 38 min
Our most popular interviews of the year, starting with Seymour Hersh, one of our heroes; he says “don’t underestimate Trump.” He won a Pulitzer Prize in 1970 for his expose of the My Lai massacre—he was a 33-year-old freelancer at the time. Since then,…
The Facts of Russiagate have been Obvious for a Long Time: David Klion on Putin and Trump, plus Amy Wilentz on Trump’s Mental Status and Bill McKibben on Climate Change
Dec 26, 2018 • 45 min
For our year-in-review show, we open with a Russiagate update with David Klion – he says it’s basically a corruption scandal whose basic facts have been obvious for a long time—and one that should bring down Trump’s presidency. In a lot of ways, Trump…
2018: A Big Year for Progressives—John Nichols on Politics, plus Erwin Chemerinsky on Obamacare and Atossa Araxia Abrahamian on Left Internationalism
Dec 19, 2018 • 40 min
John Nichols presents the highlights of The Nation’s annual Progressive Honor Roll—our heroes in Congress, in state politics, and in leading protests at the border. Also: is Obamacare unconstitutional? A federal judge ruled last week that all of Obamacare…
William Barr: Another Jeff Sessions? David Cole, plus Dave Lindorff on Pentagon Accounting Fraud and Marc Cooper on the Revolution in Armenia
Dec 12, 2018 • 44 min
Trump’s nominee for Attorney General, William Barr, is more qualified to do the job than Matt Whitaker—but so are thousands of others. His record, however, show’s he as bad as Jeff Sessions—if not worse. David Cole, National Legal Director of the ACLU and…
George H.W. Bush Gave Us Today’s Republican Party: Harold Meyerson, plus Katha Pollitt on White Women and Trump and Eric Foner on Frederick Douglass
Dec 5, 2018 • 38 min
George H. W. Bush paved the way for today’s Republican party with his racist Willy Horton campaign, nominated Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court, and pardoned the Iran-Contra conspirator whose trial would have exposed his own abuse of power. Harold…
Michelle Obama’s ‘Becoming’: Where Are the Politics? Amy Wilentz, plus Kai Wright on Midterm Victories and Tom Athanasiou on Climate
Nov 28, 2018 • 41 min
Michelle Obama declares in her new memoir, “I am not a political person, so I’m not going to attempt to offer an analysis” of Trump’s victory. That’s her stance in the rest of the book as well. It seems strange for the person the New York Times called…
How Democrats Won in the White-Hot Heart of the Republican Right: Gustavo Arellano on Orange County, plus L.A. Kauffman on Protest and Andrew Delbanco on Fugivitive Slaves
Nov 21, 2018 • 42 min
Orange County, California, was the political starting point for Nixon, for the Barry Goldwater presidential campaign, and for Reagan—as Republican as any place in America. But starting in January, not a single Republican will represent Orange County in…
“Chasing an Elusive Centrism is Ridiculous”: Frank Rich on politics, plus Erwin Chemerinsky on Matt Whitaker and Laura Carlsen on the Caravan
Nov 14, 2018 • 40 min
Frank Rich finds lessons for Democrats in the midterms: seeking “the political center,” as recommended by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristoff, running on “clean-government themes and promises of incremental improvement to the health care system…
A Blue Wave for Progressives and Women—With Some Heartbreakers: John Nichols and Joan Walsh on the Midterms, plus Andy Robinson on Brazil
Nov 7, 2018 • 38 min
Tuesday night was a good night for progressive Democrats, John Nichols argues—and Democratic control of the House will bring an epic change to Washington politics—starting with a return to Constitutional principles and an insistence that the president is…
Women Voters and the Midterms: Katrina vanden Heuvel, Joan Walsh, and Cecile Richards; plus Ari Berman on vote suppression and Gary Younge on the Midwest
Oct 31, 2018 • 40 min
Women voters—and candidates—are mobilized as never before for next week’s midterms: Joan Walsh and Cecile Richards report from across the country at a Nation event introduced by publisher and editor Katrina vanden Heuvel. Joan is the magazine’s National…
We Have a Problem With White Men: They Support Trump—Kai Wright, plus Jill Lepore on Trump and History and Michael Kazin on Hubert Humphrey
Oct 24, 2018 • 35 min
62 per cent of white men voted for Trump, 31 per cent for Clinton. Kai Wright has our analysis—he’s host of WNYC’s podcast The United States of Anxiety, and he’s also a columnist for The Nation. It’s easy to get confused by the crosscurrents of misogyny…
Can Progressive Momentum Transform The Democratic Party? Jeff Cohen, plus Sasha Abramsky on Arizona and Joan Walsh on Georgia
Oct 17, 2018 • 44 min
What lessons have the Democrats learned from the disaster of 2016? Jeff Cohen talks about the progressives’ fight to win the party away from dependence on corporate contributions—and instead to mobilize the grassroots. Jeff is one of the co-authors of…
Women’s Anger—and Kavanaugh’s Rage: Rebecca Traister, plus David Cay Johnston on Trump’s tax crimes and John Nichols on impeaching Kavanaugh
Oct 10, 2018 • 45 min
Rebecca Traister sees in the Kavanaugh hearings a typical case where women’s anger was marginalized or made to sound hysterical or infantile or threatening—but men’s anger was taken to be valid and righteous. But that is changing, she argues: women’s…
Yes We Have an Activist Community Fighting Kavanaugh: Joan Walsh, plus D.D. Guttenplan on a new radical majority and Michelle Chen on the Fight for $15
Oct 3, 2018 • 43 min
Joan Walsh explains why we lack confidence in the re-opened FBI background check into Kavanaugh’s past, and talks about the activists who are fighting the nomination, and the senators who need to be told “do not vote for this man.” Plus: D.D. Guttenplan…
The Kavanaugh Hearings Have Been an Outrage From the Beginning: John Nichols on the hearings, plus Sasha Abramsky on Voting Rights in Florida and Bryce Covert on Universal Basic Income
Sep 26, 2018 • 43 min
The Judiciary Committee confirmation hearings for Brett Kavanaugh have been an outrage, even before the recent “allegations of sexual misconduct.” John Nichols comments. Also: Florida will vote in November on restoring voting rights for felons, and polls…
Michael Moore: From Obama to Trump: “Fahrenheit 11/9”
Sep 21, 2018 • 18 min
Michael Moore talks about his new documentary, “Fahrenheit 11/9,” opens Friday May 21 across America—It’s a passionate argument about how the Democrats helped pave the way to Trump’s election, and a call to arms to change our politics and vote on Nov. 9.
The Case Against Kavanaugh: Katha Pollitt; plus Harold Meyerson on the Financial Crisis and Mouin Rabbani on Oslo
Sep 19, 2018 • 42 min
Katha Pollitt considers the arguments made by Brett Kavanaugh’s defenders in response to the charges that he sexually assaulted a 15-year-old when he was 17, and the evidence supporting Christine Blasey Ford, his accuser. Also: On the 10th anniversary of…
Fighting Climate Change—and Donald Trump: Bill McKibben plus Steve Phillips on moderate Republicans and Atossa Araxia Abrahamian on the inequality industry
Sep 12, 2018 • 43 min
As world leaders (except for Trump) gather in San Francisco this week for the Global Climate Action Summit, Bill McKibben comments on California’s new law mandating 100 per cent clean electricity by 2045—and on the next task: keep oil and gas in the…
We’re at a “Which Side Are You On” Moment: Randi Weingarten, plus Mark Hertsgaard on climate politics and David Cole on Kavanaugh
Sep 5, 2018 • 43 min
In Oklahoma and West Virgina and Missouri, teachers have led amazingly successful battles against Republican budget-cutting and tax breaks for the wealthy. Although the Supreme Court’s Janus decision sought to cripple the ability of public sector unions…
Melania Trump: Hero of the People? Amy Wilentz, plus Katha Pollitt on the Politics of Motherhood and Lee Saunders on Unions after Janus
Aug 29, 2018 • 38 min
Amy Wilentz takes up the vital question, is Melania Trump a hero of the resistance—or an accomplice of evil? Is she edging “ever closer to open contempt for him,” as New York Times columnist Frank Bruni argues, and finding “increasingly clever ways to…
Centrism Is Not the Answer! Gary Younge; plus Todd Gitlin on 1968 and Farah Griffin on Aretha
Aug 22, 2018 • 46 min
Centrism lost for the Democrats in 2016, and it will lose again in 2018, Gary Younge argues: the party needs not just to oppose Trump, but also to put forward an alternative vision that can earn the support of working-class Americans. Alexandria…
Refugees, Immigrants, and Donald Trump: Viet Thanh Nguyen; plus Anna Deavere Smith on the school-to-prison pipeline and Rachel Kushner on women in prison
Aug 15, 2018 • 45 min
One of the defining features of Trump’s politics has been the way he’s appealed to hatred and fear of refugees and immigrants. Viet Thanh Nguyen talks about refugee lives, and refugee writers. He’s the author of the novel The Sympathizer—it won the…
A Golden Age for News Media under Trump? John Nichols; plus Harold Meyerson on Politics around Kavanaugh and Nomi Prins on Trump and Economic Entropy
Aug 8, 2018 • 42 min
The Age of Trump, despite the opportunities it brings to investigative journalism, is hardly a “golden age”, John Nichols argues: cutbacks and layoffs have crippled the nation’s news media—not just in covering the White House, but state and local…
Is Trumpism Fascism? Katha Pollitt; plus Mike Lux on Political Strategy and Harold Meyerson on Jonathan Gold
Aug 1, 2018 • 38 min
Katha Pollitt is not happy with leftists calling Trump a “fascist” – maybe there’s a better term for his attacks on democracy, which have a lot in common with authoritarian leaders in Russia, Turkey, Egypt, Hungary, Poland, and other places. The…
After Trump’s Worst Week: Joan Walsh; plus David Cole on Brett Cavanaugh and Michael Kazin on Jimmy Carter
Jul 25, 2018 • 41 min
A week ago Trump returned from his disastrous press conference with Putin in Helsinki to face a firestorm of criticism. Joan Walsh reviews the political landscape this week, when a significant minority of Republicans disagree with Trump on Putin – but…
Trump and Putin: Separating the Surreal From the Sensible—Katrina vanden Heuvel; plus John Nichols on Kavanaugh and Adam Winkler on Corporate ‘Rights’
Jul 18, 2018 • 43 min
Katrina vanden Heuvel argues that Trump’s meeting with Putin in Helsinki on Monday might have brought progress on nuclear arms control and conflict reduction in Syria; but when Trump argued that the US and Russia were “both … responsible” for Russian…
Is Trump Crazy? Would Pence Be Worse? Amy Wilentz on Trump, Jane Mayer on Pence, and E.J. Dionne on America After Trump
Jul 11, 2018 • 47 min
Amy Wilentz comments on the mental and emotional status of the president, as analyzed by 27 psychiatrists in The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, a book edited by Bandy X. Lee. The book was number four on the New York Times bestseller list. Also: Would…
How We Can Block Trump’s Supreme Court Pick: John Nichols; plus Thomas Frank on Trump’s Supporters and David Graeber on Bullshit Jobs
Jul 4, 2018 • 40 min
The most important political task of the year is blocking Trump’s supreme court pick. It can be done, John Nichols argues—with the right political strategy: organizing in the states with the swing votes: Maine and Alaska. It’s not New York and LA, but…
Cruelty and Confusion in Trump’s Treatment of Migrant Children: Zoë Carpenter; plus Eyal Press on Drone Warriors and Amy Wilentz on Haiti
Jun 27, 2018 • 42 min
What’s happening to migrant children separated from their parents by the Border Patrol? Zoë Carpenter reports on the confusion and uncertainty around Trump’s ever-changing and ever-cruel “policy”—and on her recent visit inside a Border Patrol “processing…
Catastrophic Climate Change is Not an “Environmental” Issue: Bill McKibben; plus Andrew Bacevich on Endless War and Robert Edelman on the World Cup
Jun 20, 2018 • 42 min
It’s the most crucial security question that humans have ever faced: catastrophic climate change. Bill McKibben says it’s too late to halt global warming, but we still have a chance to curb it, “short of civilizational destruction.” Also: Donald Trump,…
In Trump’s ‘Madness,’ A Chance for Peace in Korea: Bruce Cumings; plus Ahilan Arulanantham on Trump’s family separation policy, and Harold Meyerson on the Democrats
Jun 13, 2018 • 43 min
“In Trump’s madness, he brings innocent eyes” to the Korean conflict, says University of Chicago historian Bruce Cumings—which frees Trump from Washington establishment thinking, and create a real possibility of peace in Korea. Plus: The Trump…
Trump Is ‘Crazy Like a Fox’: Seymour Hersh—Plus Bryce Covert on homelessness and Viet Thanh Nguyen on refugees
Jun 6, 2018 • 44 min
Seymour Hersh has won dozens of awards for his reporting on My Lai, Abu Ghraib, CIA surveillance of the anti-war movement in the Nixon years, and the crimes of Kissinger and the CIA in Chile and other places. He worked as a staff writer for the New York…
How Abortion Rights Triumphed in Ireland: Katha Pollitt; plus Wendy Pearlman on Syrian Refugees and Tom Engelhardt on ‘America’s Empire of Nothing’
May 30, 2018 • 41 min
Everyone said the Irish vote on abortion would be close – but 66 per cent voted “yes” last Friday, including a majority of men, and a majority of every age group except those over 65. Katha Pollitt was there – she reports on the campaign, and the victory…
Progressive Dems Win Big in Primaries: John Nichols; plus Yanis Varoufakis on Trump and Europe, and Arthur Goldhammer on Paris in May ‘68
May 23, 2018 • 42 min
Progressive and populist Democrats had some impressive victories in primaries last week in Pennsylvania, and also in Nebraska and Idaho—defeating centrist, establishment rivals, and showing a new path to victory in November for the party. John Nichols…
From Gaza to Jerusalem: Amy Wilentz; Plus Rachel Kushner on ‘The Mars Room’ and Patricia Williams on lynching
May 16, 2018 • 39 min
Every day Trump makes the world less safe; Monday was a big one. Amy Wilentz comments on Ivanka and Jared—and Sheldon Adelson—dedicating the new American embassy in Jerusalem, while the Israeli military killed 60 Palestinians in a mass nonviolent protest…
Trump has No Plan B on Iran—Except War: Michael Klare, plus D.D. Guttenplan on Texas and Eric Foner on Columbia ‘68
May 9, 2018 • 43 min
Trump’s plan on pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal is to pressure Iran to restart negotiations on terms more favorable to the US—but that’s never going to happen, says Michael Klare. And Trump has no Plan B – except for war—which could quickly involve…
Trump’s Financial Crimes Are More Likely to Bring Him Down than Russiagate: David Cay Johnston on Trump, plus Bruce Cumings on Korea and Elizabeth Drew on Comey
May 2, 2018 • 44 min
Trump’s greatest vulnerability may not be Russiagate, but rather his financial and tax crimes. David Cay Johnston has been investigating and reporting on Trump’s finances for nearly 30 years. He won a Pulitzer Prize at The New York Times, and now he’s…
James Comey’s Self-Justification Is Just ‘Not Good Enough’—Jonathan Freedland, plus Lawrence Wright on Trump and Texas and Margaret Atwood on ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’
Apr 25, 2018 • 43 min
James Comey’s monster best-seller, A Higher Loyalty, is “a plea for exculpation,” says Jonathan Friedland, but its self-justifications are “not good enough.” Jonathan is a columnist for The Guardian and a best-selling author. Also: How long will Texas…
The Trump Reelection Scenario: Thomas Frank; plus Adam Hochschild on Guns and Gary Younge’s Return to Muncie
Apr 18, 2018 • 41 min
Trump is the most unpopular president in history—but could he be reelected in 2020? Thomas Frank says it wouldn’t be hard—if the economy continues to boom and wages go up, even a little. But the Democrats can stop him—if they change their ways. Also: Adam…
Barbara Ehrenreich: What’s Wrong with ‘Wellness’; plus David Cole on Trump and Mueller, and Katha Pollitt on Stormy and Melania
Apr 11, 2018 • 42 min
Barbara Ehrenreich talks about the pressure to remain fit, slim, and in control of one’s body, even as the end of life approaches—and about the epidemic of unecessary testing pushed by our for-profit medical profession. Barbara’s new book is ‘Natural…
A Russia Strategy for Progressives: Katrina vanden Heuvel; plus Mark Hertsgaard on cellphone safety, and Stephanie Schriock on Emily’s List
Apr 4, 2018 • 39 min
How progressives should think about Russia: Katrina vanden Heuvel talks about Putin and his history, the democratic opposition inside Russia, and assuring American election integrity in the face of threats from both Russians and Republicans. Plus: How big…
How Trump Radicalized the Parkland Kids in Their Fight Against Guns: George Zornick, plus Micah Sifrey on Facebook and Sue Halpern on Trump vs. Libraries
Mar 28, 2018 • 40 min
Last Sunday’s Rally for Our Lives shows that having Trump in the White House has made the demands of those wonderful Parkland kids more radical. **George Zornick** comments on the ways the Parkland students have transformed the fight for gun control.…
Hey, Democrats Are Actually Running to Win! Joan Walsh on the Democrats’ new strategy, Amy Wilentz on Ivanka, and Anna Deavere Smith on the school-to-prison pipeline.
Mar 21, 2018 • 42 min
After years of getting beaten in state legislative races, the Democrats have a new energy and a new wave of candidates—especially after last year’s stunning victories in Virginia. Joan Walsh reports. Plus: Should Ivanka be indicted? She’s been part of…
Robert Reich: Trump vs. the Common Good—plus Katha Pollitt on Russiagate Skeptics, and Remembering the My Lai Massacre
Mar 14, 2018 • 40 min
Robert Reich says it’s time to turn away from the unbridled greed and selfishness of the Age of Trump and restore the idea of the common good. Reich was Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Labor; his new book is The Common Good. Also: Katha Pollitt takes up the…
Chris Hayes: What Trump Means When He Says He’s “Strong on Crime” plus Gary Younge on Kids and Guns and Michael Walzer on Foreign Policy for the Left
Mar 7, 2018 • 44 min
“For Donald Trump, crime is not a problem to be solved; it is a weapon to be wielded”—against people of color and immigrants: Chris Hayes talks about how Trump has transformed this long-standing weapon of the right. His book A Colony in a Nation is out…
How the Parkland Kids Are Beating the Gun Industry: George Zornick, plus Jane McAlevey on Unions and Amy Wilentz on Ivanka, Jared, and Don Jr .
Feb 28, 2018 • 43 min
The mass shooting at that high school in Parkland, Florida, two weeks ago, where 17 kids were killed, is still in the news, because of the brilliant political work being done by the students who survived. George Zornick analyzes the big picture: the…
It’s Time to Break Up Amazon—Stacy Mitchell; plus Bryce Covert on low wage workers and Bob Dreyfuss on the Russiagate indictments
Feb 21, 2018 • 43 min
Amazon is a radically new kind of monopoly that seeks to control all of online commerce. Stacy Mitchell says it’s time for anti-trust action to separate the Amazon Marketplace from Amazon’s own retail operations. Also: Why have wages stagnated since the…
Elizabeth Warren on Monopoly Power: George Zornick reports; plus David Dayen on Warren Buffett and Katha Pollitt on Trump and women
Feb 14, 2018 • 41 min
Senator Elizabeth Warren wants to make the fight against monopoly power in America a key part of the Democrats’ agenda; George Zornick reports on his interview with her for the magazine’s special issue on the topic. Also, Warren Buffett’s secret: “The…
Is it ‘Treason’ Not to Clap for the President? Joan Walsh, plus Nomi Prins on Financial Deregulation and Ann Jones on Norwegians
Feb 7, 2018 • 41 min
In a speech in Ohio on Monday, Trump said it was “treason” for the Democrats not to applaud him during his State of the Union speech. Tuesday, his spokesperson said he was just kidding. Joan Walsh says it’s not treason—and he wasn’t kidding. Maybe he was…
The Trouble with Teleprompter Trump’s State of the Union: Harold Meyerson; plus Meehan Crist and Tim Requarth on Phony Forensics
Jan 31, 2018 • 40 min
Trump’s Teleprompter reading of his State of the Union speech was reprehensible in so many ways—why bother listening at all? Don’t we already know enough about him? Harold Meyerson of The American Prospect comments on the lies, and the inadvertent truths,…
Women Show How to Run—And Win—Against Trump’s GOP: John Nichols, plus Alfred McCoy on Fortress America and the Rev. William Barber on White Nationalism
Jan 24, 2018 • 48 min
Trump’s not on the ballot this year, but that’s not stopping Democratic women from running against him in races across the country. John Nichols reports on recent Democratic victories where female candidates in special elections in state races flipped…
How Trump Brought Feminism Back With a Vengeance: Katha Pollitt; plus Bob Dreyfuss on Russiagate and David Bromwich on Trump’s Ruling Passions
Jan 17, 2018 • 43 min
Since Trump took office a year ago, Katha Pollitt says, women have been unleashing decades of pent-up anger: starting with the Women’s March, then in some amazing political victories, and in the #MeToo movement. But Trump has also shown how terrible the…
Oprah for President? John Nichols; plus Harold Meyerson on Trump vs. California and Father Greg Boyle on Working with Ex-Gang Members
Jan 10, 2018 • 44 min
John Nichols points out the problems with running a celebrity like Oprah for president; plus Harold Meyerson comments on how Trump is attacking California, the biggest blue state, and how California is resisting. Also: Father Greg Boyle of LA’s Homeboy…
Fred Trump and the KKK of the 1920s: Linda Gordon, plus Nancy MacLean on the Roots of the Radical Right
Jan 3, 2018 • 38 min
The KKK of the 1920s had millions of members outside the South. It targeted Catholics and Jews as well as blacks, and had impressive success at electing governors and congressmen. It passed anti-immigrant restrictions that remained in effect until 1965.…
From Bill O’Reilly to Al Franken: Katha Pollitt on #MeToo in 2017; plus John Nichols on The Resistance in 2017 and Howell Raines on Alabama’s Amazing Year
Dec 27, 2017 • 40 min
Plus, John Nichols on The Resistance in 2017 and Howell Raines on Alabama’s amazing year.
“Whiteness Is All They’ve Got”: Gary Younge on Trump’s Working Class Supporters; Plus D.D. Guttenplan on Jackson, Miss., and Amy Wilentz on Ivana
Dec 20, 2017 • 38 min
Gary Younge interviews Trump’s white working class supporters; D. D. Guttenplan spends a week reporting on Jackson, Mississippi; Amy Wilentz talks about Ivana.
Victory in Alabama: How Doug Jones Won—Howell Raines. Plus Joan Walsh on #MeToo after Al Franken and John Nichols on Net Neutrality
Dec 13, 2017 • 45 min
Alabama voters defeated Roy Moore and elected civil rights hero Doug Jones to the Senate—to take the seat vacated by Jeff Sessions. Howell Raines, the legendary Alabama journalist, explains what happened—and what it means for the future. Plus: What should…
How the Democrats Can Defeat Roy Moore in Alabama: Howell Raines on Doug Jones, plus Bob Dreyfuss on Russigate and Gary Young on American Nazis
Dec 6, 2017 • 41 min
From the Alabama hill country to the state’s Black Belt, Roy Moore, the Republican senate candidate accused of sexual assault of a 14-year-old, seems to be losing ground to his Democratic opponent Doug Jones. Howell Raines, the legendary Alabama newsman,…
What Will It Take for the GOP to Pass its Terrible Tax Bill? George Zornick on Senate politics, plus Joan Walsh on sexual harassment in Washington and Rick Perlstein on Republicans against Trump
Nov 29, 2017 • 41 min
What will it take for Republicans to pass “the biggest tax scam in history” (Paul Krugman’s phrase)? George Zornick reports on the obstacles the GOP is facing in the Senate, and the pressure its members are feeling from donors. Still to come, if the bill…
The Resistance to Trump, Year One: David Cole; plus Lawrence O’Donnell on 1968 and Steven Hahn on ‘Hillbilly Elegy’
Nov 21, 2017 • 43 min
David Cole on stopping Trump, Lawrence O’Donnell on 1968, and Steven Hahn on “Hillbilly Elegy.”
Can the Democrats Beat Roy Moore in Alabama? Howell Raines; plus Adam Shatz on Trump and the Bomb, and Corey Robin on Trump’s Reactionary Mind
Nov 15, 2017 • 42 min
The legendary journalist Howell Raines reports from Alabama on the continuing Republican support for Roy Moore; Adam Shatz talks about Trump’s place in the system to control nuclear weapons; and Corey Robin talks about Trump’s place in the tradition of…
Katrina vanden Heuvel: Russia, Trump, and the Democrats; plus George Zornick on the GOP Tax Bill and Danny Meyer on the Trouble with Tipping
Nov 8, 2017 • 40 min
Katrina vanden Heuvel reports on Russia’s monument to victims of the Gulag and comments on Robert Mueller’s investigations and the lessons of Trump’s victory. Plus George Zornick discusses the obstacles facing the GOP’s tax bill in Congress, and legendary…
Michelle Goldberg: Republicans and Trump, After the Indictments; plus Bob Dreyfuss on Mueller at Work, and Tony Schwartz on Trump
Nov 1, 2017 • 40 min
Michelle Goldberg talks about Republicans and Trump, after the indictments. Bob Dreyfuss says the indictments of Paul Manafort are only the beginning of the results of the work of Special Counsel Robert Mueller. And Tony Schwartz, who wrote Trump’s…
Is Trump Crazy? Would Pence be Worse? Jane Mayer on Pence, and Amy Wilentz on Trump; plus Raj Patel on Cheap Food
Oct 25, 2017 • 45 min
Would Pence be worse? Jane Mayer of The New Yorker reports—she interviewed more than 60 people in search of answers, including Pence’s mother. Several say he’s wanted to be president at least since high school. Also: Amy Wilentz on Trump; plus Raj Patel…
How Much Time Could Women Reclaim If They Didn’t Have to Deal With Men’s Bullshit? Joan Walsh on Harvey Weinstein—plus John Nichols on Trump’s Generals and Zoë Carpenter on the Future of Food
Oct 18, 2017 • 43 min
In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein revelations of sexual harassment and assault, Joan Walsh talks about the torrent of #metoo stories, which reveal just how much time women spend dealing with male abuse. Plus John Nichols on Trump’s Generals and Zoë…
Ai Weiwei on Refugees: They Are Part of Us—plus David Dayen on JPMorgan Chase and Amy Wilentz on Ivanka, Jared, and Don Jr.
Oct 11, 2017 • 47 min
“Human Flow” is Ai Weiwei’s amazing documentary on the global refugee crisis. He’s our greatest political artist—here he talks about his first feature film, shot in 23 countries and dozens of refugee camps.
Say It Again: Donald Trump Did Not Win the Popular Vote—E.J. Dionne; plus Ari Berman on Gerrymandering and Joan Walsh with Hillary
Oct 4, 2017 • 45 min
E.J. Dionne argues that Trump has mobilized progressive political forces that can transform America. Plus Ari Berman reports on the argument about gerrymandering at the Supreme Court, and Joan Walsh sits down with Hillary Clinton for a conversation about…
Trump Is Inviting America Into the Torture Chamber—Sasha Abramsky; Plus, Katha Pollitt and D.D. Guttenplan on Hillary’s Memoir.
Sep 27, 2017 • 43 min
Sasha Abramsky on Trump and fear, plus Katha Pollitt and D.D. Guttenplan on Hillary’s memoir.
Trump’s Campaign Chief Paul Manafort Faces Indictment—plus Hillary’s Book and Ken Burns’s Vietnam Doc
Sep 20, 2017 • 42 min
Bob Dreyfuss reports the big news in the Russiagate scandal, plus Sarah Leonard on Hillary’s Book and Todd Gitlin on Ken Burns’s Vietnam documentary on PBS.
Hurricane politics and climate change in the Age of Trump: Mark Hertsgaard and John Nichols; plus Alfred McCoy on Cyberwar with China
Sep 13, 2017 • 41 min
Scott Pruitt, who Trump appointed to head the EPA, says we should be helping victims of the hurricanes in Florida and Texas, and not debating climate change. Mark Hertsgaard has a different view—and John Nichols explains why Scott Pruitt is a disaster.…
Behind Trump’s Heartless Attack on the Dreamers: John Nichols, plus Elizabeth Holtzman on Robert Mueller and Joan Walsh on Mike Pence
Sep 6, 2017 • 36 min
Why Trump sent Jeff Sessions to announce they were targeting the Dreamers for deportation—John Nichols explains. Plus Elizabeth Holtzman, veteran of the Watergate investigations, on Robert Mueller’s brilliant move against Trump, and Joan Walsh answers the…
Houston vs Climate Change: Roane Carey; plus Erwin Chemerinsky on Trump & Arpaio, and Bob Dreyfuss on Seth Rich
Aug 31, 2017 • 42 min
Roane Carey, plus Erwin Chemerinsky on Trump’s pardon of Joe Arpaio and Bob Dreyfuss on Seth Rich.
Bannon’s Exit: All Power to Jared? Amy Wilentz & John Nichols; plus Joshua Holland on Russia & Democracy
Aug 24, 2017 • 39 min
Amy Wilentz on the boy wonder, John Nichols on Trump after Bannon, and Joshua Holland on Russia and democracy.
White Nationalists in Charlottesville & DC: Eric Foner; plus Bob Dreyfuss on Manafort and Robert Lipsyte on Trump and Golf
Aug 17, 2017 • 42 min
Plus Bob Dreyfuss on Paul Manafort, and Robert Lipsyte on Trump and golf
How the Trump Presidency Ends: Frank Rich Compares the President’s Situation to Watergate
Aug 10, 2017 • 45 min
Plus Joshua Holland on Trump voters and David Cole on the resistance.
Surviving the Trump Years: Katha Pollitt’s Guide for the Anxious and the Depressed
Aug 3, 2017 • 45 min
Plus John Nichols on Medicare-for-All and Rosa Brooks on the generals.
Is Trump Desperate Enough to Pardon Himself? Plus Healthcare in the Senate and Happiness in Denmark
Jul 26, 2017 • 37 min
David Cole, legal director of the ACLU and The Nation’s legal affairs correspondent, argues that Trump would only be talking about pardoning himself if he was desperate—because he knows what the Special Counsel is likely to find—and thus willing to pay a…
Trump’s Attorney & Russian Bankers: Bob Dreyfuss, plus Amy Wilentz on Don Jr. and Suzanne Gordon on the VA
Jul 19, 2017 • 44 min
Bob Dreyfuss reports on the lawyers on both sides of the Russia investigations, starting with Mark Kasowicz, Trump’s longtime personal attorney, who is also working for Russian bankers connected to the meeting with Don Jr. at Trump Tower. Also: the deep…
Al Franken Versus the De-Humorizer—Plus Ari Berman on Voting & Joan Walsh on Trump Jr.
Jul 12, 2017 • 46 min
Al Franken talks about the dangers of humor in politics, about the voters who supported Trump, the “deep hole” Attorney General Jeff Sessions has dug for himself, and the need for a public option in health care in America. His new book is Al Franken:…
Naomi Klein: We’re All in Trump’s Reality Show Now—Plus Amy Wilentz on Jared; and Al Franken
Jul 5, 2017 • 39 min
Trump’s presidential reality show is non-stop, Naomi Klein says in Part 2 of our interview—and, as a result, people really die. Naomi’s new book, No Is Not Enough, debuted at number two on the New York Times bestseller list. Also: The Jared Report: Amy…
Naomi Klein: Kill the Trump Within—Plus, Health-Care in the Senate and Trump’s Travel Ban
Jun 28, 2017 • 42 min
It’s not enough to say ‘no’ to Trump, Naomi Klein argues; we need to transform ourselves and our movement to bring about the change we need. Also: Senate Republicans postponed voting on their “health-care” bill, after the CBO revealed its terrible…
Trumpcare Is the Most Unpopular Legislation in History—Plus, Socialism and Thoreau
Jun 21, 2017 • 44 min
Only 17 percent of Americans approve of Republican efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare; George Zornick says maybe that explains the secrecy of Senate Republicans in drafting their bill. Also: Why are young people voting for old socialists? Sarah…
The Case for Impeaching Trump—Plus, Trump’s Tweets and Corbyn’s Triumph
Jun 14, 2017 • 37 min
John Nichols argues that Trump should be charged by the House with obstruction of justice and abuse of power and put on trial in the Senate. Plus: Amy Wilentz talks about the trouble with Trump’s tweets, which the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals cited Monday…
Norman Lear: Donald Trump Is the Middle Finger of the American Right Hand
Jun 6, 2017 • 40 min
Norman Lear, who created “All in the Family,” reflects on why it succeeded in the Age of Nixon—and on what is different about political satire in the Age of Trump. Plus: The Nation’s Zoë Carpenter reports on Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley, who has taken the…
Sasha Abramsky: Trump Is Like a Cornered Animal. Plus: David Cole and Paul Mason
May 31, 2017 • 42 min
The “new normal” of daily disasters for the White House make Trump more dangerous and irrational, Sasha Abramsky says, and more likely to adopt fascistic tactics. Plus: conservatives argue that the courts have gone too far in rejecting Trump’s travel ban…
Donald Trump’s Cruel and Unusual Budget—Plus the Supreme Court on Voting and Trump in Saudi Arabia
May 24, 2017 • 37 min
All budgets are political statements—Trump’s, submitted to the House on Tuesday, represents a cruel attack on the weakest and most vulnerable, in order to slash taxes for the wealthiest. And the assumptions behind the claim that it is “balanced” could…
Will Trump Even Make It Through One Term? Plus: Montana’s Special Election, and Ivanka’s New Book
May 17, 2017 • 40 min
Could the Democrats remove Trump from office? Harold Meyerson comments on the politics of impeachment, and the lessons of the Democrats’ successful effort to remove Nixon, and the Republicans’ failed effort to remove Clinton. Also: D.D. Guttenplan reports…
Rick Perlstein: What We Didn’t Understand about Trump
May 10, 2017 • 44 min
The leading histories of the conservative movement don’t account for the Klan enthusiasts and the “tribunes of white rage” that Trump mobilized and that he represents—that’s what Rick Perlstein argues in a mea culpa on behalf of historians of American…
Laura Poitras: The Many Contradictions of Julian Assange
May 3, 2017 • 44 min
Risk is the new film by Laura Poitras, about Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks. Poitras, who won the Oscar for best documentary for her film about Edward Snowden, Citizenfour, calls Assange “admirable, brilliant, and flawed.” Also: Stephen Cohen…
Margaret Atwood: ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ in the Age of Trump
Apr 26, 2017 • 43 min
The Handmaid’s Tale, Margaret Atwood’s dystopian novel about the US after a right-wing coup has installed a theocratic regime, is now a ten-part series on Hulu. The TV version is shocking, scary, and surprisingly relevant in Trump’s America. In this…
Bill McKibben: This Is Our Last Chance to Save the Planet
Apr 19, 2017 • 39 min
“We’ll either save, or doom, the planet, during the Trump administration.” That’s what Bill McKibben says—he’s an organizer of the Climate March in Washington on Sunday, April 29. Also: 81 percent of white Evangelicals voted for Trump, despite his obvious…
Tom Frank: Would Bernie Have Been Able to Beat Trump? Hell Yes!
Apr 12, 2017 • 40 min
In the rust belt, “they hated Hillary” — that’s what Tom Frank found on his recent book tour for the paperback of “Listen, Liberal: Or Whatever Happened to the Party of the People?” Also: Is Ivanka Trump responsible for her father’s attack on Syria? Amy…
Chris Hayes: Donald Trump Is a Law-and-Order President In the Worst Possible Way
Apr 5, 2017 • 44 min
How we got from the events in Ferguson to the election of you-know-who: Chris Hayes talks about race, incarceration, and politics in his new book A Colony In a Nation—Salon called it “a dark book for a dark time.” Plus: Although Trump was the least…
Chris Hayes: Trump ‘Knew Literally—And I Mean Literally—Nothing About’ His Health-Care Bill
Mar 29, 2017 • 42 min
Chris Hayes assesses the damage to Trump and to the Republicans caused by the failure of their effort to end Obamacare—and the opportunities the major defeat now opens up for progressives. Plus: The deepening crisis facing Trump over questions about his…
Jane Mayer on the Reclusive Billionaire Who Made Trump President
Mar 22, 2017 • 45 min
You may not have heard of the hedge-fund magnate Robert Mercer, but he was probably the most important backer of Trump for president. Jane Mayer of The New Yorker has the first in-depth report on this little-known figure and former Breitbart News funder.…
Democrats Need to Understand Why the Rust Belt’s White Workers Still Support Trump
Mar 14, 2017 • 42 min
Why do many white workers who voted for Trump still support him? The Nation sent D.D. Guttenplan to Ohio to find out—he’s returned now with his report. Also: should the feminist movement welcome people who are anti-abortion? Wouldn’t that make the…
This Is the Resistance: More Than 5,000 Grassroots Groups Have Sprung Up Since Trump Was Elected
Mar 8, 2017 • 43 min
Joshua Holland surveys the new grassroots resistance groups that have sprung up since the election—he found more than 75, and that number is likely be growing. Indivisible is the biggest of these groups, with more than 5,000 local groups, at least two in…
How the Democrats Can Beat Trump on Tax Reform
Mar 1, 2017 • 43 min
Harold Meyerson says it’s time for the Democrats to move beyond simply saying “no” to Trump and challenge him with alternative tax proposals that would really help working class people. Harold is executive editor of The American Prospect. Plus: The New…
Jane Mayer: Dark Money and Donald Trump
Feb 22, 2017 • 44 min
The Koch brothers, the GOP’s biggest donors, didn’t support Trump for president—but he’s supporting their pro-business and anti-environmental agenda now. Jane Mayer of the New Yorker explains; her book Dark Money is out now in paperback. Plus: What Trump…
The West Coast Is Leading the Resistance Against Trump
Feb 15, 2017 • 42 min
California, Oregon and Washington are leading what could become the largest resistance movement to federal policy in more than a century. Sasha Abramsky reports. Also: Are Evangelical Christians hypocrites for supporting Trump? Katha Pollitt says they…
Keith Ellison: How the Democrats Can Win
Feb 8, 2017 • 43 min
The Democrats need to “champion working families and give voters a reason to show up at the polls in 2018 and beyond”—that’s what Representative Keith Ellison says. The Nation has endorsed him for chair of the Democratic National Committee. Also: What can…
How Far Outside the Legal Mainstream Is Neil Gorsuch?
Feb 1, 2017 • 43 min
David Cole, the national legal director of the ACLU, discusses Trump’s nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court, and its implications for constitutional rights and liberties in the Trump era and beyond. Cole also says that last weekend’s…
Our ‘Insane Clown President’—and the Women Who Marched Against Him
Jan 25, 2017 • 39 min
Matt Taibbi says “Trump made idiots of us all.” He covered the campaign for Rolling Stone—and his new book is Insane Clown President. Also: The Women’s March last Saturday was glorious—what’s the next step? Joan Walsh comments—and responds to David…
We Can’t Just Protest Trump. We Must Defy Him.
Jan 18, 2017 • 40 min
Frances Fox Piven argues that social movements need to “make trouble” to effectively challenge Trump—starting with sanctuary movements that will enlist large numbers of people in resisting his deportation efforts. Plus, David Cole says defending First…
Trump: Vicious, But Vulnerable
Jan 11, 2017 • 43 min
Gary Younge says Trump’s victory shows the weakness of the Republican Party, not its strength—and argues that progressives must avoid despair and channel their anger into an effective resistance. Plus: Obamacare has changed America, and that makes it hard…
Obama Didn’t Talk Much About Race. Did that Open the Door to Trump?
Jan 4, 2017 • 43 min
Obamacare saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of black people, but Obama never mentioned that fact—his rhetoric throughout his presidency was always more “race-neutral” than not. And the Obama years also saw the resurgence of white supremacy. Kai…
Best of the Left in 2016
Dec 22, 2016 • 29 min
John Nichols says 2016 wasn’t all bad. With this year’s Progressive Honor Roll, we remember some of the people who fought the good fight, and sometimes even won; activists who pointed the way in the resistance to come. Also: David Cole looks back on…
Robert Reich: Why Republicans Are Wrong about Taxes
Dec 21, 2016 • 34 min
Could Republicans be right when they say taxes on business hurt the economy, and low wages help? Robert Reich says there’s an easy way to find out: compare economic growth in high-tax, high-wage California, with Texas. Also: Legendary attorney Marty…
Chris Hayes: How We Got from Obama to Trump
Dec 14, 2016 • 39 min
How did Obama’s presidency end with the election of Donald Trump? Chris Hayes comments—and talks about his trip to Kenosha, Wisconsin this week with Bernie Sanders to meet with Trump voters. Plus, Joan Walsh says Democrats shouldn’t focus exclusively on…
Naomi Klein, Rebecca Solnit, and Zack Exley: How Organizing Can Still Win
Dec 7, 2016 • 43 min
Naomi Klein reports from Standing Rock on the victory there over the Dakota Pipeline—the lesson, she says, is that resistance and organizing can win. Plus, Rebecca Solnit, author of Hope in the Dark, says “when big dangers arise, you have to think big.”…
Is the Recount Assuring Electoral Integrity, or Wasting Money on a Distraction?
Nov 30, 2016 • 42 min
Jill Stein has raised almost $7 million to pay for recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. John Nichols says it won’t make Hillary president, but it is a worthwhile electoral practice. Critics on the left say the real problem is vote…
How to Stop Trump
Nov 22, 2016 • 38 min
In 2002, we had Bush and Cheney in the White House with Republican control of the House and the Senate and a Republican majority on the Supreme Court. Nevertheless virtually all of Bush’s most outrageous “national security” initiatives were reversed –…
Mike Davis: The Real Revolution of 2016 Was Not Trump’s
Nov 16, 2016 • 46 min
Trumpism is inherently chaotic, Mike Davis argues, and won’t last long, while the emergence of the Bernie Sanders movement has the potential to transform American politics. Plus Joan Walsh looks at how Hillary lost women voters she needed, and what comes…
Mourn, Resist, Organize: Our Tasks Now
Nov 9, 2016 • 34 min
Katrina vanden Heuvel says there’s no denying the magnitude of our defeats. We need to mourn our losses—but then we have to resist, and organize. Plus John Nichols analyzes the changes we need in the Democratic Party. And Laila Lalami talks about the most…
Donald Trump: The View From the Rustbelt
Nov 2, 2016 • 41 min
Gary Younge has spent the last several weeks in Muncie, Indiana, reporting on politics in the rust belt. Trump voters there, he says, know his faults, but want “something big” to change their world. Plus, Katha Pollitt asks whether Trump’s misogyny will…
The Progressive Candidates Who Are Shaking Up This Election
Oct 26, 2016 • 41 min
John Nichols talks about some of our favorite progressive candidates—for the Senate, the House, and state legislatures—who show what good politics look like these days—and who have been endorsed by “Our Revolution,” the Bernie Sanders political group.…
Donald Trump’s ‘Horrifying’ Refusal to Accept the Election Results
Oct 20, 2016 • 45 min
Maybe you heard the news: in the third debate, Donald Trump wouldn’t say he would accept the results of the election if he lost. Clinton called that “horrifying.” Joan Walsh comments—she’s The Nation’s National Affairs Correspondent. Plus: Kai Wright…
Greil Marcus: Maybe Bob Dylan Isn’t a Poet, but He Is One of America’s Greatest Artists
Oct 19, 2016 • 20 min
In this special edition of our podcast, Greil Marcus talks about “Highway 61 Revisited,” “Masters of War,” and “Like a Rolling Stone”—and the way Dylan has changed those songs in live performances over the decades. Greil’s 30 years of writings about Dylan…
Donald Trump’s ‘Great Respect for Women’
Oct 12, 2016 • 40 min
Katha Pollitt has some words for Trump and his defenders after the groping tape and the second debate, where he argued that ISIS “chopping off heads” was worse than his statements about women who will “let you do it” if you are “a star.” Plus D.D.…
A Journey into the Heart of Trump Country
Oct 5, 2016 • 49 min
For her new book, sociologist Arlie Hochschild listened to Trump supporters explain their world in their own words. She spent five years in southwestern Louisiana searching for their “deep story,” which she recounts in Strangers in Their Own Land—it’s…
Katha Pollitt: It’s Time to Get Active for Hillary
Sep 28, 2016 • 45 min
Feeling unenthusiastic about Hillary Clinton? Katha Pollitt says “If she loses, it’s your fault”—so it’s time to go to work on phone banks and canvassing. Also: Why does Trump appeal to so many voters? Kai Wright went deep into to Trump territory on Long…
Bernie Sanders Speaks: Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and Building a Revolution
Sep 21, 2016 • 45 min
The Nation interview with Bernie: John Nichols, who with Katrina vanden Heuvel sat down with the senator, sets the scene and introduces our excerpts. Plus: Edward Snowden explains his motivation for revealing the extent of NSA surveillance, and says he’d…
Oliver Stone: Edward Snowden Has Done Something ‘Quite Amazing’
Sep 14, 2016 • 47 min
The film ‘Snowden,’ which opens this weekend, was turned down by all of the big Hollywood studios. Director Oliver Stone explains what it took to make his film about the NSA whistleblower—and why Snowden deserves a presidential pardon. Plus: Nation Sports…
White Workers, Trump, and Clinton
Sep 7, 2016 • 41 min
It’s the year of the white working class, and Joan Walsh reports on the Democrats’ efforts to win back the voters they have been losing since the sixties. Plus, the fight over the Clinton Foundation: Amy Wilentz says it’s time for Hillary, Bill, and…
The Green Party’s Jill Stein Wants a Green New Deal
Aug 31, 2016 • 51 min
In this exclusive interview with Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate for president responds to the most common criticisms she hears: Won’t a Green vote make Trump’s victory more likely? Didn’t Bernie show it was better for progressives to work inside…
Why Won’t Obama Grant Edward Snowden Amnesty?
Aug 24, 2016 • 45 min
The power of independent journalism was demonstrated last week when the Obama Justice Department announced the end of incarceration of federal prisoners in private prisons. Seth Freed Wessler explains what it took to uncover dozens of questionable deaths…
The Woman Behind Trump
Aug 17, 2016 • 45 min
The most powerful person in Donald Trump’s campaign is not a political professional but rather his own daughter, Ivanka. Amy Wilentz explains how Ivanka got there, and comments on her personal, and political, history. Also: Rosa Brooks talks about “how…
What Donald Trump Got Very Wrong About Sexual Harassment
Aug 10, 2016 • 42 min
Katha Pollitt explains how women employees’ complaints of sexual harassment forced out Roger Ailes—and examines Donald Trump’s comments about it. Plus: Ari Berman analyses the effect of voting rights victories in court on Trump’s chances in North Carolina…
An Hour Without Trump
Aug 3, 2016 • 61 min
Trump is everywhere in the news this week, so we decided to do something different: 60 minutes of political talk that is Trump-free. Guaranteed. Instead: The fight to limit government surveillance tactics: Ben Wizner talks about what we have won—and what…
Will Hillary’s Outreach to Bernie’s Supporters Work?
Jul 29, 2016 • 43 min
John Nichols analyzes Hillary Clinton’s big speech and the place of Bernie Sanders supporters in Democrats’ plans to fight Donald Trump. Plus D.D. Guttenplan reports on Bernie and the Bernie people at the convention—the battles, the booing, and the work…
Can Trump Win? The Republicans After Cleveland
Jul 22, 2016 • 47 min
Amy Wilentz and Jon Wiener debate Trump’s chances for victory in November: Jon says he won’t win; Amy says ‘don’t be so sure.’ Plus: John Nichols and D.D. Guttenplan analyze the candidate’s speech and the aura of violence inside the convention hall, and…
Don’t Forget: Someone Loved Philando Castile, Someone Loved Alton Sterling
Jul 13, 2016 • 42 min
The shooting of police officers in Dallas does not change anything about the shootings of black men in Baton Rouge or St. Paul, Kai Wright argues—he’s Features Editor of The Nation. Also: Donald Trump has changed the Republican Party in fundamental ways,…
Clinton’s Email, the FBI, and the Voters
Jul 6, 2016 • 48 min
Joan Walsh says the FBI director’s blunt criticism of Clinton’s handling of her email provides the presidential hopeful with an opportunity to acknowledge mistakes and make amends. Walsh is The Nation’s National Affairs correspondent. Plus: we found…
Brexit’s Unlikely Lessons for Hillary Clinton
Jun 29, 2016 • 38 min
The victorious campaign in Britain to leave the European Union has many striking parallels to Donald Trump’s campaign to win the White House. D.D. Guttenplan says “that ought to keep Hillary supporters awake at night.” Also: the Supreme Court issued a…
 Donald Trump Really Could Ban Muslims From Entering the Country
Jun 22, 2016 • 45 min
The People’s Summit brought organizers and activists to Chicago last weekend for three days of planning about where to go next with the Bernie movement—at the Democratic National Convention, and after. RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of National Nurses…
Life and Death in Gay Orlando
Jun 15, 2016 • 45 min
Orlando was one of the most gay-friendly cities in the South—and still is, says Nadine Smith of Equality Florida. Also: Bernie won the war of ideas in the Democratic party—what does that mean for Hillary now? Harold Meyerson comments. And historian Adam…
What Happened in California?
Jun 8, 2016 • 61 min
Everything you need to know about the California primary—John Nichols explains it all to producer Alan Minsky. Also: Andrew Cockburn of Harper’s magazine explains how Obama’s drone “kill list” is approved—and what happens after. Because politics isn’t…
Does Bernie’s Movement Have a Future?
Jun 1, 2016 • 40 min
Bernie Sanders’s campaign rallies in California have brought out more than 100,000 people—many of whom think he can win the state’s primary next week. Nicky Woolf of Guardian US has been following the campaign; he thinks they may be right. Also: Elizabeth…
Can the Democratic Party Be United?
May 25, 2016 • 43 min
Bernie Sanders has stopped his direct attacks on Hillary, and he’s been able to make some strong appointments to the platform committee for the Democratic National Convention. Is the unification of the party underway? Harold Meyerson explains. Plus: Most…
Donald Trump Knows the Age of Reagan Is Over. Does Hillary?
May 18, 2016 • 43 min
Hillary will have to do something different to beat Donald Trump, Bruce Shapiro argues—because appealing to moderates, like the Clintons did in the nineties, is not going to work this year. Also: The #BreakFree climate protests have mobilized tens of…
 Hillary Clinton Is Donald Trump’s Dream Opponent
May 11, 2016 • 39 min
Donald Trump’s ideal opponent is a member of the establishment, Steve Fraser argues—the kind that used to be called a “limousine liberal.” Hillary Clinton, he argues, fits the bill perfectly. Also: The only way Trump could win, says Ari Berman, is through…
If Donald Trump Loses, Will There Be Violence?
May 4, 2016 • 34 min
When Hillary Clinton defeats Donald Trump in November, his millions of supporters will be told that their American birthright has once again been stolen from them. Rick Perlstein talks about the potential for violence in the streets after election day.…
Could Donald Trump Actually Win Some of Bernie’s Supporters?
Apr 27, 2016 • 39 min
Trump says he’ll fight for jobs against NAFTA-type trade deals, and he doesn’t take money from Wall Street. Is that enough to win some of Bernie Sanders’s supporters to his side? John Nichols weighs in on this week’s primary results. Plus: The Prince of…
Frank Rich: How Hillary Could Lose to Trump
Apr 20, 2016 • 42 min
A Clinton vs. Trump campaign in the fall would be a battle of the negatives, Frank Rich says—and Hillary’s are dangerously high. Plus: Hillary and Haiti—a long relationship, and a revealing one. Amy Wilentz comments. And we speak with Viet Nguyen—his…
Naomi Klein Says Climate Justice Requires Bernie’s Boldness
Apr 13, 2016 • 43 min
Naomi Klein argues that the problem with Hillary Clinton’s climate policy is not her corporate contributions; it’s her corporate ideology. The climate justice movement, she says, “requires the kind of boldness Bernie Sanders represents.” Also: Military…
 Bernie Sanders Has Momentum on His Side
Apr 6, 2016 • 39 min
John Nichols says that, after the Wisconsin primary, Bernie has momentum on his side. Also: David Cole argues that citizen activists are the real force behind changes in constitutional law—look at how the NRA changed the meaning of the Second Amendment;…
What Kind of President Would Donald Trump Be?
Mar 30, 2016 • 47 min
Sasha Abramsky asks, if Donald Trump were president, would he be a familiar kind of New York deal-maker—or a deluded demagogue? Campaign contributions go mostly to TV ads that don’t work, and consultants who are even more useless, Andrew Cockburn…
Bernie Is Bringing the Reagan Era to an End
Mar 23, 2016 • 41 min
Bernie Sanders is the leading edge of the historical forces bringing the 40-year Reagan era to an end, says Richard Parker of Harvard’s Kennedy School. Plus: Obama’s legacy for black America is mostly symbolic, Gary Younge argues—the wealth gap between…
Bernie Isn’t Finished
Mar 16, 2016 • 41 min
John Nichols answers the question, what’s left for Bernie Sanders after Tuesday’s primaries? Quite a bit, he says—he’s The Nation’s National Affairs correspondent. Plus: North Carolina’s new voter ID requirements, the most restrictive in the country, went…
Bernie on the Move
Mar 9, 2016 • 46 min
Harold Meyerson says Bernie’s victory in Michigan shows he’d be a stronger candidate than Hillary in big industrial states with diverse populations and big problems. Harold is executive editor of The American Prospect. Plus: Donald Trump: fascist, or…
Donald Trump, Master of Hate
Mar 2, 2016 • 42 min
Joan Walsh on panic in the GOP establishment over Trump’s triumphs on Super Tuesday; Joan is The Nation’s national affairs correspondent. Plus: What Trump supporters really think. Sasha Abramsky interviewed a bunch of them; he reports regularly on…
Can Anything Stop Donald Trump?
Feb 24, 2016 • 43 min
John Nichols says it’s hard to see how the Republican Party can stop Trump from winning the nomination—for starters, nobody is trying—and it’s not hard see how his appeal to working class white voters could make him president. Julianne Hing reports from…
Who Is Hillary Clinton?
Feb 17, 2016 • 38 min
Katha Pollitt asks, “Is it wrong for women Democrats to want to vote for a woman Democrat?” In 2008 she voted for Obama rather than Hillary; today she’s a Clinton supporter. Gary Younge looks back on Hillary’s 30-plus years in American politics and argues…
The Secret to Bernie’s Startling Success
Feb 10, 2016 • 40 min
Republican disarray deepens after New Hampshire: Rick Perlstein explains the dilemma of the GOP establishment, as their chosen candidates continue to slide. Also: The startling success of Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire. It’s not just that he’s from the…
How Bernie Sanders Went From Trailing by Double Digits to Tying in Iowa
Feb 3, 2016 • 41 min
Gary Younge says Donald Trump is not a uniquely American phenomenon, but part of a broader Western European phenomenon of white, nativist responses to globalization, immigration and terrorism. Joan Walsh analyzes the Republicans after Trump’s second-place…
Frank Rich on Donald Trump; plus Bill McKibben and Anna Deavere Smith
Jan 27, 2016 • 45 min
The GOP establishment is moving toward accepting Donald Trump as their candidate, says Frank Rich—they think he will make deals with them, while Ted Cruz won’t. Also: Bill McKibben, founder of, the global climate movement: he says the fight to end…
Katrina vanden Heuvel: Why We’ve Endorsed Bernie Sanders
Jan 20, 2016 • 39 min
The Nation magazine has endorsed Bernie Sanders for president; editor and publisher Katrina vanden Heuvel explains why. Also: Dave Zirin, sports editor of The Nation, talks with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar about black politics, Ferguson, John Lewis, Donald Trump,…
Should Feminists Vote for Clinton?
Jan 13, 2016 • 41 min
Katha Pollitt says feminists should vote for Hillary Clinton, who will be good for women, and who is the only Democratic candidate who can win. But Liza Featherstone says feminists should not vote for Clinton—her record is full of attacks on poor women,…
Rick Perlstein: Rahm Emanuel Must Go
Jan 6, 2016 • 45 min
Rick Perlstein on Chicago’s mayor; Adam Gopnik and Amy Wilentz on the Charlie Hebdo shooting, one year later; and Rebecca Solnit on climate change in the Himalayas.
The Best of the Left in 2015
Dec 22, 2015 • 40 min
The most valuable activist, the biggest ideological comeback, the best newspaper front page, and more: John Nichols presents The Nation’s Progressive Honor Roll for 2015. Also: guns in America. What is to be done? Amy Wilentz weighs in. Plus: The great…
Barbara Ehrenreich Explains Why the White Working Class Is Dying—Literally
Dec 16, 2015 • 34 min
On this week’s podcast, Barbara Ehrenreich talks about the alarming rise in the death rate of middle-aged white working class men, who are committing suicide and dying of drug overdoses and alcoholism. Also: Rebecca Solnit explains the achievements and…
ISIS and American Muslims; Republicans and American Guns
Dec 9, 2015 • 46 min
Laila Lalami talks about what ISIS wants from American Muslims; Joan Walsh explains the real reason we don’t have gun control; and we remember Chernobyl—Amy Wilentz and Tom Lutz talk about writer Svetlana Alexievich, the new winner of the Nobel Prize for…
Naomi Klein: The Paris Climate Conference Protests Will Not Be Stopped
Dec 2, 2015 • 40 min
Naomi Klein on the Shock Doctrine and the Paris climate protests, Katha Pollitt on Europe’s refugee crisis, Eric Foner on Woodrow Wilson’s racism, and Joan Walsh on the Republicans and the Planned Parenthood killings.
Bernie Sanders’s Socialism; the Future of Football
Nov 24, 2015 • 42 min
Eric Foner on how Bernie should talk about socialism, Dave Zirin on parents and football, Ari Berman on the battle for the vote, and Julianne Hing on Republicans and refugees.
The Arab World and ISIS; The New York Times and Bernie Sanders
Nov 17, 2015 • 38 min
Laila Lalami talks about the origins of ISIS, and what to do about it now. Laila grew up in Morocco; her novel ‘The Moor’s Account’ was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize. Also: The New York Times coverage of Bernie Sanders has been condescending, and…