200churches Podcast: Ministry Encouragement for Pastors of Small Churches

200churches Podcast: Ministry Encouragement for Pastors of Small Churches

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Jeff and Jonny are pastors who want to encourage pastors of “smaller” churches. All most pastors see online are the churches that have grown into the thousands in just a few years, the ones that spread out around the city through multiple services and


333 - Dynamic Advice For Effective Visitor Follow Up with Jon Dunwell
Sep 5 • 36 min
Jon Dunwell shares specific advice on improving your guest follow up!
332 - One Pastor’s Unbelievable Health Transformation Story with Scott Buell
Aug 28 • 66 min
Scott Buell’s personal health transformation story - this pastor did it!
331 - Are You Running On All 8 Cylinders?
Aug 21 • 34 min
Evaluation time as we enter into a new church year…
330 - Redemption Is From The LORD with Gabe
Jul 31 • 44 min
Jeff and Gabe have a conversation about Gabe’s story. A story of hope and redemption.
329 - A Church Progress Report from the Yukon Territory with Jeremy Norton
Jul 27 • 65 min
Jeremy shares his first three years of pastoral leadership adventures!
328 - How Pastors Grow with Dan Reiland
Jul 15 • 63 min
Perspectives on how pastors grow as people and leaders
327 - One Year Citylight KC Church Plant Progress with Jason Wilson and Eric Carpenter
Jul 11 • 50 min
A One Year Update on the guys’ church planting progress!
326 - We Can Lead Like Jesus Led with Mark Strauss and Justin Irving
Jun 28 • 55 min
Mark and Justin talk Leadership Best Practices and Biblical Scholarship
325 - Rethinking Communication In Your 200church with Phil Bowdle
Jun 7 • 47 min
Clarify Your Church Communication with Phil Bowdle!
324 - Small Churches and HOPE with Rob Douglas
Jun 1 • 55 min
A full episode with a great guest and fun interaction between Jeff & Jonny!
323 - The Thrill of the Launch with Josh Park
May 17 • 45 min
Josh Park unveils the Branch Life Church launch story…
322 - Wisdom From A Seasoned Pastor with Bill Larson
May 10 • 51 min
A pastor’s pastor speaks with Jeff about a life of pastoral ministry!
321 - What It Means To Love Anyway with Kayla Craig
Apr 18 • 30 min
Jonny and Kayla Craig share the amazing work of Preemptive Love!
320 - Sometimes Pastors Need the Most Help with Jeff Keady
Apr 11 • 27 min
Jeff shares from the heart, his care for suffering pastors.
319 - Serving At Saddleback with Henty Van Der Merwe
Apr 5 • 50 min
A conversation with Rick Warren’s Executive Assistant, Henty Van Der Merwe!
318 - N.T. Wright Encourages Small Church Pastors
Mar 27 • 55 min
N.T. Wright affirms and encourages pastors of normal size churches!
317 - Building Hope For The Broken with Todd Grant
Mar 21 • 54 min
Building a church amidst brokenness and poverty - a beautiful story!
316 - Ministry - Not Programs & Curriculum but Communication & Relationships
Mar 14 • 44 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the real geetus of ministry!
315 - One More Episode On Change Management in the Church
Mar 6 • 45 min
Dave Jacobs shares six principles of change leadership in the local church
Bonus Episode 01 - A Health Journey Update from Three Pastors
Feb 23 • 32 min
Three pastors share their progress on their health journey!
314 - How A Young Pastor Views Ministry with Derek Ambroson
Feb 21 • 55 min
Derek is a young millennial and shares his views on discipleship and ministry!
313 - How To Lead and Love Negative People with Dan Reiland
Feb 13 • 51 min
Dan shares real help in dealing with negative people. Very helpful!
312 - How God Saved Me And Is Using Me with Joe Petrone
Feb 8 • 55 min
Joe was successful and broken until he found Jesus. Now he’s serving!
311 - Ministry Coaching Rocket Fuel with John Finkelde
Jan 30 • 55 min
John shares very practical and helpful advice that pastors can act on right away!
310 - Pastor, What’s Your Plan For Personal Growth In 2019?
Jan 23 • 40 min
When the pastor gets better, the church gets better!
309 - How Vision Fuels Your Church with Dave Jacobs
Jan 18 • 43 min
Churches run on vision! Don’t let the tank go empty!
308 - Focus On Your Strengths In Small Church Ministry with Tyler Ramsbey
Jan 9 • 48 min
Tyler Ramsbey talks all things small church plant and community involvement
307 - The Pastor’s Personal Life with Rob Tarnoviski
Jan 4 • 53 min
Rob and Jeff talk about the personal life of a pastor
306 - How Not To Be A Church Of Us vs. Them with David Fitch
Dec 25, 2018 • 62 min
David Fitch tackles issues that trip up churches in our culture
305 - How Jeff Lost Almost 50 Pounds and YOU Can Too with David Bush
Dec 18, 2018 • 55 min
Jeff challenges you to join him in adopting habits of a healthy lifestyle - do you dare?!
304 - A Truckload of Pastoral Encouragement and Hope with John Lynch
Dec 14, 2018 • 67 min
John brings hope and grace to pastors!
303 - A Ministry Leadership MasterClass with Rob Tarnoviski
Dec 6, 2018 • 62 min
Ministry Leadership is a passion and gift of Rob Tarnoviski’s!
302 - Spiritually Flourishing - Nurturing the Pastor’s Heart with Ken Shigematsu
Nov 28, 2018 • 61 min
Ken Shigematsu is a Contemplative Pastor - so helpful!
301 - Church Planting in the Suburbs and How Your Zip Code Informs Your Ministry with Ashley Hales
Nov 21, 2018 • 60 min
How your zip code might determine your ministry approach!
300 - What Millennials Look For In A Church with Tiffany Deluccia
Oct 31, 2018 • 70 min
What Millennial Parents Look For In A Church
299 - Stress Free Bi-Vocational Ministry with Danny Garrido
Oct 24, 2018 • 53 min
Danny shares ministry ideas for bivocational pastors
298 - Creating Margin & Reclaiming Life with Dave Jacobs
Oct 17, 2018 • 53 min
Dave talks about creating margin to reclaim LIFE!
297 - Every Sunday You Need A Sermon with Jeff and Jonny
Oct 10, 2018 • 38 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about their own weekly approaches to sermon prep
296 - Big Change Small Groups & Small Churches with Heather Zempel
Oct 3, 2018 • 63 min
Heather is a discipleship pastor where Mark Batterson is the senior pastor.
295 - What is the 95Network? With Dale Sellers
Sep 28, 2018 • 77 min
The 95Network is for small church pastors!
294 - Mission Passion In The First Person with Norma V
Sep 19, 2018 • 53 min
Norma V shares her life of missions passion!
293 - Encouraging and Valuing Small Churches (with Chris Vitarelli)
Sep 12, 2018 • 56 min
Jeff is joined by Chris Vitarelli—small church pastor, conference leader, and all around good guy—to talk about the Small Church Big Deal Conference in Fenton, Michigan. Jeff and Chris also talk about his ministry journey, what it’s like to pastor tw…
292 - Who Is Your Model For Ministry Leadership? With Ray Hollenbach
Sep 5, 2018 • 51 min
Are military and business leaders really good models for pastoral leadership?
291 - Unsticking Your Stuck Church with Tony Morgan from The Unstuck Group
Aug 29, 2018 • 43 min
Tony Morgan sat down with Jeff and Jonny… in person and LIVE!
290 - Sex Trafficking & Homes of Hope with Al Henson
Aug 22, 2018 • 58 min
Compassionate Hope is Awesome! Al Henson shares the story.
289 - Willowcreek, Hybels, Justice, and Not Piling On
Aug 15, 2018 • 42 min
Jeff and Jonny’s debrief on Willow
288: How and Why To Have Crucial Conversations (with Pam Dykstra)
Aug 7, 2018 • 54 min
Jonny is joined by his friend Pam Dykstra (who happens to be a Master Trainer with VitalSmarts) and they talk about what Crucial Conversations are, why we avoid them, and how to have them well in order to get unstuck. Pastor, you NEED to listen to this…
287 - Beginning Ministry At Half Time with Jim Drake
Aug 1, 2018 • 46 min
Pastor Jim shares his move from Air Force to ministry life
Special Episode—An Invitation to be Encouraged in Your Ministry
Jul 24, 2018 • 9 min
Jonny is joined by his wife, Kayla, to talk about a special event that YOU are invited to!
286 - Embracing Love in the Chaotic World of Addiction with Vinny Provenzano
Jul 19, 2018 • 54 min
Pastor Vinny shares his family’s personal struggle
285 - Staffing Principles and Strategies That Work Even In Small Churches with Sarah Bouma from the Unstuck Group
Jul 11, 2018 • 47 min
How to think about staffing in your small church!
284 - Q&A With Jeff & Dave Jacobs Part 2
Jul 4, 2018 • 43 min
Dave Jacobs, from www.smallchurchpastor.com!
283 - Your Questions Answered Part 1 with Dave Jacobs & Jeff Keady
Jun 27, 2018 • 40 min
Jeff and Dave answer listener questions!
282 - From Water to Wine to Wisdom with Derek Vreeland
Jun 20, 2018 • 56 min
Derek shares his thoughts on discipleship and small groups
281 - This Small Church Pastor Is Pastor To A President - with Brandon Patterson
Jun 13, 2018 • 47 min
Brandon pastors one of the most unusual churches in the U.S.!
280 - What’s on My Mind with Jonny Craig
Jun 5, 2018 • 40 min
PIcking up where Jeff left off last week, Jonny shares some things that are on his mind like family, special needs ministry, church decline, and worship services. He also shares a book he recently read and encourages pastors to keep churches connected …
279 - What’s On My Mind with Jeff Keady
May 30, 2018 • 50 min
The worth and value of small church pastors, and a few other thoughts…
278 - Developing Fully Formed Followers of Jesus with Dan Den Boer
May 22, 2018 • 48 min
Jonny is joined by Northwestern College professor (and friend) Dan Den Boer to talk about formation and the role of the church in developing Christ followers. The conversation swerves into topics like literalism, historical criticism, and Bibliolatry a…
277 - From Pastoring Small Churches to Chaplaincy (With John Ottley)
May 15, 2018 • 46 min
Jonny is joined by John Ottley—small church pastor turned hospital chaplain to talk about what he has learned over his 30-year ministry career and what he is learning as he begins a new career as a chaplain.
276 - A CityLight Church Planting Adventure with Jason Wilson & Eric Carpenter
May 9, 2018 • 49 min
Jason & Eric prepare to plant as co-pastors
275 - Candid Thoughts From A College President with Joel Wiggins
May 2, 2018 • 60 min
Challenges of educating the next generation - at church and college!
274 - From Legalism and Depression to Grace and Church Planting - Derek Levendusky’s Story
Apr 25, 2018 • 53 min
This is one pastor’s journey from brokenness to blessing - to blessing others!
273 - How To Connect New People To The Life Of Your Church with Greg Curtis
Apr 18, 2018 • 59 min
How to streamline new attenders into the life of your church!
272 - The Healthy, Effective, Life-Changing, Kingdom Advancing Small Church with Karl Vaters
Apr 11, 2018 • 38 min
Karl Vaters’ small church blog is called PIVOT on Christianity Today!
271 - Talking Kingdom Ministry with Reggie McNeal - Part 2
Apr 4, 2018 • 49 min
Reggie explains Kingdom ministry from your small church!
270 - Small Town Summits - Part of the Larger Small Church Movement
Mar 28, 2018 • 55 min
Small Town Summits for small and rural church pastors
269 - How To Start A Safety And Security Ministry In Your Small Church with Bob Johnson
Mar 21, 2018 • 41 min
Bob Johnson shares straight talk about church security!
268 - Talking Kingdom Ministry with Reggie McNeal
Mar 14, 2018 • 40 min
An Intro to our talk with Reggie McNeal!
267: Caring for Special Needs People in Your Small Church (with the Special Friends Team from Willow Creek)
Mar 7, 2018 • 53 min
Jonny is joined by the Special Friends ministry team from Willow Creek
266: Staffing Solutions for Your Small Church (with Dave Miller)
Feb 27, 2018 • 44 min
Dave Miller from Slingshot Group and Leadership Pathway joins us to talk about developing the next generation of church leadership and staffing issues facing all sized churches.
265 - A Vicar & Archdeacon Speaks on Healthy Cultures, Teams, & Systems with Helen Phillips
Feb 21, 2018 • 50 min
A Rabid Listener, Vicar, and Archdeacon makes a great guest!
264 - Theology, Small Churches, and the Holy Spirit with Cherith Nordling
Feb 14, 2018 • 55 min
Cherith talks life, the Holy Spirit and Theology!
263 - My First 3 Years In Ministry with Marc Shefelton
Feb 9, 2018 • 45 min
A young pastor talks about his first three years!
262 - What a Pastor’s Spouse Wants You to Know.mp3
Jan 31, 2018 • 46 min
Jonny’s wife makes her first 200churches appearance!
261 - Size Doesn’t Matter - Healthy Pastors Produce Healthy Churches with John Hardy
Jan 24, 2018 • 47 min
Small church ministry is both viable and Kingdom honoring!
260 - Five Focus Areas For Every Pastor - A Conversation With John Finkelde
Jan 17, 2018 • 49 min
John shares 5 Focus Areas he coaches every pastor on…
259: The Intersection of Grief and Vocation—A Conversation with Bep Reeves
Jan 10, 2018 • 57 min
A story of love and calling. A story of grief and hope.
258 - Jeff & Jonny’s 5 Hot Ministry Realities for 2018
Jan 3, 2018 • 43 min
We WILL deal with all of this in 2018…
257 - How Small Churches Can Help the Least of These Discover Hope! With Robbie Robinson
Dec 27, 2017 • 52 min
Robbie is real, raw, and right now - how you can help the least of these in your community!
256 - Vulnerability and Authenticity in Ministry - A Conversation with Mark Young
Dec 20, 2017 • 36 min
Pastoring through struggle and heartache - a vulnerable conversation…
255 - Why You Must Focus On MarriedPeople in Your Small Church with Ted Lowe from the reThink Group
Dec 13, 2017 • 57 min
Ted Lowe from MarriedPeople.org joins Jeff to talk marriage ministry in small churches
254 - Naked Man Running - 100 Ideas That Work in a Small Church with Dave Jacobs
Dec 6, 2017 • 50 min
Great Ministry Ideas that work in Small Churches!
253 - An Encouraging Conversation with the Pastor Around the Corner
Nov 29, 2017 • 52 min
A conversation with a 200church pastor just around the corner!
252 - The Easiest Way to Get the Best Training for Your Church — A Conversation with Scott Magdalein
Nov 14, 2017 • 44 min
Training for kids and hospitality ministry
251 - How Your Context Defines Your Ministry with Pedro Alexandrino.mp3
Nov 8, 2017 • 58 min
Pedro’s update on his Rio church plant!
250 - Free Church Recources We Didn’t Know Existed from Life.Church
Nov 1, 2017 • 43 min
Free resources from Life.Church
249 - Yes, I am an Introvert and a Pastor
Oct 25, 2017 • 53 min
Jeff and Jonny talk to Gary Hanson about being an introverted pastor.
248 - Fired up for Ministry in Flint, Michigan - A Conversation with Ernesto Alaniz
Oct 18, 2017 • 56 min
Church planter Ernesto Alaniz from Flint MI shares an amazing story!
247 - The Foundations of a Healthy Church
Oct 11, 2017 • 40 min
How to have a healthy church.
246 - Using Coaching Skills In Pastoral Ministry with Dave Jacobs
Oct 4, 2017 • 52 min
With Dave Jacobs the Small Church Pastor Coach!
245: A Healthy Church is a Hospitable Church with Sam Prellwitz
Sep 27, 2017 • 40 min
Hospitality is important in your small church!
244 - Leading Yourself Before You Lead Your Church with Scott Dalen
Sep 20, 2017 • 39 min
Pastors must lead themselves first, before leading others.
243 - Dealing with Fear and Loss: The Internal Struggle of a Pastor with Ray Hollenbach
Sep 13, 2017 • 40 min
Episode 243 is our conversation with the founder of www.studentsofjesus.com, Ray Hollenbach. Ray is a pastor’s coach, a college theology prof, a church planter, and a church consultant. Ray talks with Jeff and Jonny about the pain of and struggle of th…
242 - Leading in Uncharted Territory with Tod Bolsinger
Sep 6, 2017 • 52 min
Jonny talks with Tod Bolsinger about his recent book “Canoeing the Mountains” and leading the church in the post-Christian world we find ourselves in. Jonny is joined in this interview by Suzanne Vogel and Jeff even pops in for the beginning and ending!
241 - Contentment not Complacency with David Housholder
Aug 29, 2017 • 33 min
Jonny sits down with David Housholder to talk about how he cultivates contentment without getting complacent in his small church! Jonny and Jeff also give some updates on their new church situations and chat about staying fresh in ministry.
240 - A Phenomenal Hour of Pastoral Coaching with David MacDonald
Aug 23, 2017 • 60 min
This episode is like sitting in on a free coaching call with a seasoned and live-wire pastor of a 200church! David MacDonald shares life, love, and leadership for small church pastors! You’ll love this encouraging episode! David is the senior pastor…
239 - What Authors and Small Church Pastors Dream Of - A Story Of Radical Life Change with Steve Mason
Aug 16, 2017 • 60 min
Steve Mason was given the book, The Cure, reading it in one night his life immediately began to change, as did his wife’s. They would never be the same. In a few years he would float in the Caribbean with the author, as they reveled in the grace of God!
238 - When Life, Ministry, and Business Morph with Tim & Ginger Hohm
Aug 9, 2017 • 51 min
Tim and Ginger Hohm from www.mojovideo.tv, and small church ministry, join us to talk about what happens when life, ministry, and business change and morph - and God is in it - but you’re still scared! Here’s their story! Enjoy!
237 - When Pastors Move - Jeff & Jonny’s Story
Aug 2, 2017 • 40 min
Big transitions in both Jeff and Jonny’s ministries this year! At this release, Jonny has left Orange City, and Jeff is on his way in about one month. They tell their stories of grit and grimace, faith and failure! Or… just their stories… of how Go…
236 - Does Anyone Still Deal With Gossip In The Church? With Dave Jacobs
Jul 26, 2017 • 51 min
Dave Jacobs, from www.SmallChurchPastor.com, joins Jeff to talk about specifics in dealing with destructive and divisive gossip in your small church. This is very helpful and practical!
235 - It’s the Economy, Pastor! With Walter Brueggemann
Jul 19, 2017 • 51 min
Jeff and Jonny speak with Walter Brueggemann, who is surely one of the most influential Bible interpreters of our time. He has authored over one hundred books and numerous scholarly articles. He continues to be a highly sought-after speaker. We called…
234 - Eucharistic Celebration as the Cornerstone of Worship with Stanley Hauerwas
Jul 12, 2017 • 46 min
Named “America’s Best Theologian” by Time magazine in 2001, Dr. Stanley Hauerwas joins Jeff and Jonny to talk about the importance of the church, and the role of the small church pastor, especially in the Eucharistic Celebration! A thriller! A must hear!
233 - Small Church Ministry in the Yukon Territory with Jeremy Norton
Jul 5, 2017 • 49 min
Jeremy Norton is the real deal! Straight from a small church, 200 miles north of Juneau AK, in the Yukon Territory of Canada, Jeremy talks about leading change, loving his leaders, and ordering his week! This is an awesome episode! Check out Jeremy’…
232 - Partnering With Other Churches To Serve Your Community with Zach Bauer
Jun 28, 2017 • 48 min
Zach Bauer, pastor of Red Door Church in Sioux Falls SD joins us to talk about how his small church is making a big impact on people in his community. This is an inspirational, practical, and encouraging episode! Thanks Zach! Say hi to Jack for us… …
231 - A Christological Tornado - with Cherith Nordling
Jun 21, 2017 • 64 min
The guys were blown out of the water as the Christological tornado that is Cherith Nordling ripped through the podcast studio, via Skype! Cherith expounds on the wonders of Jesus, the hypostatic union, the power of the Spirit, Philippians 2, and so muc…
230 - The Global Impact of Children’s Ministry with AWANA CEO Valerie Bell
Jun 14, 2017 • 53 min
The CEO of AWANA Clubs International, Valerie Bell, joins the guys LIVE in the studio! This episode is off the charts heartfelt surrounding both Children’s Ministry, and small churches and their pastors. Valerie shares her heart for kids and families, …
229 - Meetings - Bane or Blessing with Dave Jacobs
Jun 7, 2017 • 44 min
From SmallChurchPastor.com, Dave “the Animal” Jacobs joins us to give some great advice on how to have great meetings, or as he put it, “meetings that don’t suck!” This episode is so practical for pastors of all size churches! As usual, you will enjoy …
228 - Women As the Image-Bearers of God with Carolyn Custis James
May 31, 2017 • 55 min
Carolyn Custis James joins the guys to talk about her book, Half The Church. Carolyn is soft spoken with very loud content! What a fun lady with a sharp intellect and engaging sense of humor, talking about the mission of women in the Kingdom of God!
227 - A Fresh Approach To Bible Reading with Glenn Paauw
May 24, 2017 • 56 min
Glenn Paauw from InstituteforBibleReading.org joins Jeff and Rob at a Missio Alliance Gathering recently to talk about a fresh approach to reading the Bible in community in your church - this is an eye-opening episode for all pastors! You can sign up t…
226 - Creating Mental Illness Literate Congregations with Kay Warren
May 17, 2017 • 50 min
In 1980 Rick and Kay Warren started in their living room what is today Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, CA. 37 years later Kay can look back and see the best of times and the worst of times. She and her husband Rick have been great examples to other p…
225 - Reimagining Small Church Ministry with Zach Bauer
May 10, 2017 • 50 min
Zach “the Hammer” Bauer joins the guys to talk about how he recast a refined vision to his young church and set it on a more intentional and focused course. With his leadership team, he reimagined his Children’s Ministry and found a new group of volunt…
224 - Race, Reconciliation, & the Church with Jemar Tisby
May 3, 2017 • 57 min
Things get REAL when Jeff & Jonny talk with Jemar Tisby about race, reconciliation, white privilege, and the church. They talk about sensitive things in our society, but they manage a very thoughtful and gracious conversation between friends, which alw…
223 - There Is Freedom In Transparency As A Pastor with Mandy Smith
Apr 26, 2017 • 62 min
Mandy Smith is the Senior Pastor of University Christian Church in Cincinnati OH. This is her 2nd time with us to finish talking about The Transparent Pastor - a fantastically wonderful book she wrote. A very personal and theological conversation!
222 - Matt Frey Gives the Straight Dope on Discipleship for Small Church Pastors!
Apr 19, 2017 • 52 min
Matt Frey is a Discipleship Pastor from Beaver Falls, PA and an old pal of Jeff’s. Never hesitant to bring the heat, Matt provides the straight dope on the issue of discipleship - in a way very accessible for pastors of all size churches!
221 - Inner City Ministry At Bridge of Hope
Apr 12, 2017 • 30 min
Jeff talks with Robin Boda from Bridge of Hope Ministries in St. Louis MO. They talk about the needs of people in tough situations, and - what we offer them, and what they teach us! A very encouraging episode! You can see the fantastic ways that Bri…
220 - Preaching, Church Planting, & Bi-Vocational Ministry
Apr 5, 2017 • 47 min
John Chandler, from the SermonSmith Podcast, joins us to talk about sermon craft, bi-vocational ministry, missional ministry, and family/ministry balance, among much else! You will be encouraged to keep pressing forward in your own 200church!
219 - Sexual Abuse in the Church - A Tragedy
Mar 29, 2017 • 50 min
Unlike any other episode we’ve done, this is a very serious discussion with two ladies who are sexual abuse survivors - about sexual abuse in the church, and child abuse as well. Jeff and Jonny talk w/ Nicole Bromley and Mary O’Brien from WWW.IAMONEVOI…
218 - When Hillsong Church Plants In Your Town - with John Finkelde
Mar 22, 2017 • 49 min
John Finkelde, from Perth, Australia gives wisdom about how to handle another larger church planting in your town or neighborhood. What do you do? How do you deal with it? Jeff and Jonny have a great conversation with the Aussie Pastor’s Coach! #Hillso…
217 - Hope in the Age of Fear
Mar 15, 2017 • 43 min
Sweet Baby Ray Hollenbach, from StudentsofJesus.com joins Jeff and Jonny to talk about a simple, yet so profound commodity that all of us pastors deal in - HOPE. We talk about hope in the age of fear! A contemplative episode… Ray is a pastor’s coa…
216 - The Body of Christ Sports Many Outfits - A Never Before Episode!
Mar 8, 2017 • 81 min
Dan Tarrant is our special featured guest on this, the longest episode in the history of the Podcast. This is a phenomenal episode. We’ve never produced an episode like this one! Ever. You’ll love it. The Body of Christ is beautiful! We can learn from …
215 - A Church Planter, Pastor, & Listener From Rio de Janeiro
Mar 1, 2017 • 48 min
Jeff and Jonny are joined by an energetic small church pastor/church planter from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Pedro Alexandrino. Pedro shares the challenge and beauty of a small church filled with real people, real struggles, and changed lives! You’ll …
214 - Wisdom From A Desert Pastor
Feb 22, 2017 • 48 min
David Housholder is a bivocational pastor from the San Diego area and a long time listener to the podcast! Jeff and Jonny talk with him about a vast array of small church ministry issues. You will definitely connect with this conversation! David has be…
213 - When Listener Becomes Guest - Pastor Ronnie Brown
Feb 15, 2017 • 36 min
Pastor & Podcaster Ronnie Brown joins us - himself a listener to our podcast! Ronnie shares the wows and woes of his church and bivocational ministry. Ronnie is the real deal small church pastor! You will finish this episode much more encouraged than w…
212 - What’s the First Impression Your Church Makes?
Feb 8, 2017 • 34 min
On Episode 212 Greg Atkinson talks with the guys about your church’s first impressions and how they impact visitor retention, and ultimately the outreach of your church. This absolutely is a practical and helpful episode. You’ll love it!
211 - Young Pastor + 2 Churches = Big Impact!
Feb 1, 2017 • 49 min
Shea Zellweger pastors two churches in Connecticut with a total of about 100 in attendance. Shea has BIG VISION for what his churches can accomplish in their neighborhoods! Exciting, practical, and encouraging! You’ll love Shea! He’s a great young lead…
210 - Pastor, A Rule Of Life That Will Allow You To Get Your Life Back!
Jan 25, 2017 • 48 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Ken Shigematsu, from Tenth Church in Vancouver BC. Ken talks about the spiritual disciplines he uses to center his life and he shares them with you! Yes, Ken talks contemplative, monks, and meditation! You’ll learn a ton from Ken!
209 - This Great Couple Loves & Coaches Pastors For Maximum Health & Ministry!
Jan 18, 2017 • 46 min
When Barb emailed in constructive criticism to Jeff and Jonny, they invited her and her husband to come on the podcast and provide the rest of the story! This is an extremely fun episode about the benefits of pastoral coaching. Isolation and loneliness…
208 - Simplifying Systems in Your Small Church with Rich Birch
Jan 11, 2017 • 51 min
Rich Birch, from the UnSeminary Podcast and unseminary.com joins the guys to talk about his work at UnSeminary, AND how to think about needed systems, simply, in your small church. Lots of fun and very helpful! Rich is the author of Unreasonable Chu…
207 – The Pastor Who Would Be A Healthy Leader – You Know You Want To Listen!
Jan 4, 2017 • 57 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Justin Irving and Andrew Gross about their book on the intersection of leadership resiliency and differentiation of self. How’s that for slim reading?! This is about how to lead from a position of psychological and emotional he…
206 - An Army Chaplain’s Small Church Ministry in Afghanistan
Dec 28, 2016 • 38 min
Chaplain David Craig, Jonny’s brother, talks to us all the way from his ministry post in Afghanistan - sharing the importance of ministry to small groups of soldiers in harm’s way. This is a unique and special episode!
205 - How To Withstand Ministry Wounds
Dec 21, 2016 • 53 min
We never say this, but EVERY PASTOR needs this episode! Jeff and Jonny talk with Bill Thrall, a pastor to pastors for decades, about how to pastor and lead in the most healthy way possible. Essentially they discuss how to survive the wounds of ministry…
204 - Why Wouldn’t Every Pastor Want To Be Coached Like This?!
Dec 14, 2016 • 56 min
Jeff talks with Ray Brandon, a Michigan pastor who shares how he gets coached for free, the benefits of coaching, and a great conversation with Jeff, his old boss! Ray planted his church 11 years ago, and just last year planted yet another church throu…
203 - How Well Do You Resolve Conflict In Your Small Church?
Dec 7, 2016 • 41 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about what has been a recent and most serious conflict between them - while not giving details, they talk about the importance of conflict resolution in pastoral ministry. But folks, it was bad. Really bad. We were afraid even our p…
202 – Tired of Ministry Water, This Pastor Wanted Real Wine!
Nov 30, 2016 • 55 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Brian Zahnd, about his experience of moving from watery faith, to rich wine faith. His book, Water To Wine, outlines his 13 year journey to a deeper, richer, fuller faith and ministry. Brian is the pastor of Word of Life Church…
201 - How Small Church Pastors Can Inspire Kingdom Living
Nov 23, 2016 • 39 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Ray Hollenbach from www.studentsofjesus.com about inspiring a Kingdom imagination in our people. Ray shares some questions that will motivate Kingdom living in the lives of our congregation. As always, there’s lots of fun too!
200 - N.T. Wright Provides Amazing Encouragement To Pastors of Small Churches!
Nov 16, 2016 • 58 min
This is an amazing conversation with NT scholar N.T. Wright, author of Surprised By Hope, The Day the Revolution Began, and dozens of other theological works. Tom Wright speaks at length on pastoral ministry in the small church - huge encouragement! Dr…
199 - Mixing Theology and Psychology in Pastoral Ministry
Nov 9, 2016 • 58 min
The guys talk to Dr. Jeannine Brown about some deep stuff - interdisciplinary integration between theology and psychology, and other small church ministry junk like that! The is the stuff small church pastors honestly do deal with every day! Jeannin…
198 - Your Church In Your Community – Presence Over Programs!
Nov 2, 2016 • 58 min
David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago joins the guys to talk about the 7 disciplines of a church that help them meet Christ where he is already working in the community – thus with him becoming a faithful presence there… for the people. This …
197 - Shattering the Myth of a Balanced Life
Oct 26, 2016 • 41 min
Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor at 12stone Church in Lawrenceville GA joins us to talk about the futile pursuit of a balanced life. Isn’t that what we are always reaching for? Balance in life and ministry? Maybe balance is not what we should be pursuing …
196 – Is Your Church Plant A Faithful Presence Of Christ In Your Community?
Oct 19, 2016 • 56 min
The colorful and effervescent Dr. David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago joins Jonny and Jeff in this episode, talking about the guiding presuppositions for his book, Faithful Presence. This is an episode that will get you thinking about what yo…
195 -The Four Foundations of Discipleship & How To Make A Pastoral Transition In Your 200church
Oct 12, 2016 • 62 min
Ray Hollenbach from StudentsOfJesus.com joins us to talk about Discipleship Philosophy and Leadership Transitions in a 200church. This is a brand new first time guest - a pastor’s coach, college prof, and small church lover! Ray is a delightful man, wh…
194 - Overcoming Evangelism Inertia In Your 200church
Oct 5, 2016 • 55 min
Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com joins the boys to talk about obstacles to evangelism in small churches - and then shares some serious strategies for overcoming them! Jeff’s paranoia over Australian animal dangers surfaces again at the end…
193 - Help! I Pastor An Unhealthy Church!
Sep 28, 2016 • 50 min
Karl “the Shark” Vaters joins Jonny and Jeff to talk about pastoring unhealthy churches and how to do it, and he even gives a ton of advice on what to do if you are an unhealthy pastor! Believe it or not, we try hard to make this an encouraging episode!
192 - Help! My Church is in Maintenance Mode!
Sep 21, 2016 • 48 min
Pastor Dan “the Animal” Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Atlanta GA joins Jeff and Jonny talking about 7 signs of a church in maintenance mode, and how to get out of it! Dan brings years of experience to this episode as he helps us to enc…
191 - 200churches & College Ministry - A Great Mix!
Sep 14, 2016 • 41 min
College Ministry Pro Jonathan Burgio talks about how a small church can have a ministry on the college campus in their community! Another fun episode with the guys from Elim Fellowship in New York!
190 - This Small Church is a Big Deal in its Neighborhood
Sep 7, 2016 • 52 min
What a BLAST! Jonny & Jeff talk to Lori Harris, a pastor’s wife and church planting partner from Rocky Mount, NC. This episode is certain to surprise you, inspire you, and motivate you to believe that your small church can be a big deal in YOUR neighbo…
189 - Transitioning, Leadership, Millennials, and Transparency - Jeff’s Talk With A Ministry President!
Aug 31, 2016 • 64 min
Jeff talks with the President of Elim Fellowship, Chris Ball. They have a wide ranging discussion about the next generation of leadership, pastoral struggles, ministry health, and getting help as a pastor - This… is a good one! It’s absolutely the st…
188 - Battling Ministry Frustrations - You Can Be A Winner!
Aug 24, 2016 • 48 min
Jeff and Jonny are joined in the studio by “first call” pastor, Scott Dalen aka - Dirty Scotty D! We talk about frustrations that face especially newer pastors in ministry. We also share some solutions & hope - to encourage you in your good Kingdom wor…
187 - WARNING - Episode Contains Encouragement Overdose for Small Church Pastors!
Aug 17, 2016 • 48 min
Joe Jansen, from Elim Fellowship in Lima, NY joins us again to provide a virtual overdose of ministry encouragement for pastors of small churches! Joe shares a checklist for assessing your ministry health, and provides a ton of HOPE!
186 - Emotions In the Workplace and the Pastor’s Health – a Conversation with Dr. John Pletcher.mp3
Aug 10, 2016 • 45 min
While Jonny is out, Jeff talks with Dr. John Pletcher, an old friend, about his book, Emoticon-versations: Working Through Our Deepest Places. What emotions do pastors deal with, and how to handle them? A fascinating talk…
185 - Just When You Needed Encouragement - Cheerleading the Small Church Pastor!
Aug 3, 2016 • 43 min
Jonny is remote in Orange City and Jeff is in the traveling 200churches Studio in NY talking with Joe Jansen, a Champion Cheerleader of small church pastors! You will be encouraged and inspired by their conversation! Joe oversees 170+ pastors all over …
184 - How Vulnerability Actually Empowers Your Ministry!
Jul 27, 2016 • 54 min
Pastor Mandy Smith, from University Christian Church in Cincinnati joins the guys today to talk about her book, The Vulnerable Pastor - How Human Limitations Empower Our Ministry. Ultimately, Mandy reveals that vulnerability is not something we feign o…
183 - Dynamic Advice On Small Church Worship
Jul 20, 2016 • 45 min
A FANTASTIC conversation to share with your worship leader and entire worship team! A conversation with Jerret Hammons filled with practical worship leading wisdom. Jarret started leading worship at age 13 with his guitar and help from the pastor’s wif…
182 - 8 Warning Signs That Your Ministry Is About To Trump Your Family
Jul 13, 2016 • 44 min
This is a very practical episode on the importance of family in ministry. The imperceptibility of the slide of ministry activity into the holy space of family is a reality we must beware of! Dave Jacobs of www.smallchurchpastor.com helps us explore thi…
181 - The Vital Importance of Small Church Pastors!
Jul 6, 2016 • 50 min
Michael Nations, founder of The Vital Initiative, joins the guys to once again proclaim the value and importance of small church ministry! Michael is with the Church of God Cleveland, and he travels around the U.S. encouraging pastors of smaller church…
180 - How To Think About Volunteers In Your Small Church
Jun 29, 2016 • 35 min
Zach Bauer joins the guys live in the Studio again to talk about his volunteer philosophy at his church plant - Red Door Church in Sioux Falls, SD. Zach gets honest and vulnerable as he shares from his heart in this episode! The conversation centers on…
179 - A Missionary Wife/Mom: What We Experience When Visiting Churches
Jun 22, 2016 • 59 min
With Jonny on sabbatical, Jeff speaks to Melanie, a missionary wife and young mother about the reality of the “One Year Furlough”. Vacation? Or… Uh… Something else?? Some of us pastors might think that the one-year break that missionaries get, …
178 - Ministry With One Hand Tied Behind Your Back
Jun 15, 2016 • 45 min
What a blast we had with Dave Jacobs from www.SmallChurchPastor.com! Dave talked with us on the topic of “Doing ministry with one hand tied behind your back.” We had just too much fun on the “pre-record” with Dave. Things that will go unmentioned… …
177 - Teaching The Text: A Conversation with NT Scholar Jeannine Brown
Jun 8, 2016 • 70 min
A deep dive into the importance of understanding the text of Scripture in both the theory and practice of small church ministry. Dr. Jeannine Brown joins us to talk about her life’s work, NT scholarship & teaching pastors! Jeannine is a New Testamen…
176 - A Small Church Pastor Making A Big Difference - So Can You!
Jun 1, 2016 • 37 min
Pastor Michael Nations from Clyde, NC joins Jeff and Jonny LIVE in the 200churches Podcast Studio! Michael is the founding director of www.TheVitalInitiative.com and is making a difference encouraging small church pastors! We have a new friend! As M…
175 - Powerful & Practical Advice For Crafting Effective Sermons
May 25, 2016 • 55 min
Jeff talks with John Finkelde from GrowAHealthyChurch.com as he shares some powerful, essential advice for crafting attention getting, effective sermons! This is a mini seminar on the art of sermon craft!
174 - Why Pastors Need 200churches!
May 18, 2016 • 38 min
Jeff and Jonny use this episode to talk about the struggles of pastors who pastor churches that are smaller, or that are not growing by leaps and bounds. There’s plenty of discouragement to go around in ministry circles - and 200churches seeks to be an…
173 - This Bivocational Church Planting Pastor Tells All!
May 11, 2016 • 41 min
Zach is a bivocational pastor and church planter and shares some of the pro’s and cons of being bivocational while planting a church, and even after the church tops 100! A fun conversation with Zach and the guys LIVE, in the luxurious and opulent 200ch…
172 - Preaching & Social Media When A Listener Crashes the 200churches Podcast Studio!
May 4, 2016 • 47 min
Scott Dalen crashes the 200churches Podcast Studio and talks to Jeff about preaching, social media usage in small churches, Jeff & Jonny’s chemistry, and much more! This was a fun episode where Scotty D sits in Jonny’s chair and hogs his mic!
171 - Worship Ministry from a Small Church Perspective
Apr 27, 2016 • 51 min
Jonny is not too upset that Jeff had a private conversation with worship leader and musician Jeremiah Hollis, from Sydney Australia. Jeremiah has a heart for people, and God has gifted him musically to love them! This is a great conversation about smal…
170 - Pastors: We Live at the Intersection of Theology & Culture
Apr 20, 2016 • 64 min
Jeff & Jonny dialogue with Dr. Silas Morgan, who specializes in political theology, and talks with them deeply about the place where pastors live - at the intersection of theology & culture! What kind of politics are we promoting in the body of Christ …
169 - A Transcontinental Preaching Discussion With John Finkelde
Apr 13, 2016 • 43 min
Jeff (with a cameo appearance by Jonny) talks with John Finkelde all about preaching! Jeff dives into John’s past preaching experiences and discusses some of his own. We all do it, every week, and John’s advice in this episode is sure to dislodge some …
168 - 4 Difficult Realities Church Planters Face
Apr 6, 2016 • 43 min
Jonny and Jeff invited Zach Bauer, a South Dakota church planter, to the luxurious and opulent 200churches Podcast Studio… to talk about difficult realities that church planters face. Zach is a class act, and this episode was a ton of fun! And, Jonny…
167 - A Church Planter Shares How He Handled Unrealized Expectations
Mar 30, 2016 • 45 min
Church Planter and Pastor, Chris Vitarelli, joins Jeff and Jonny today to share his frustrations of high expectations unrealized, and how he found satisfaction and joy in his 200church plant! He tells how he formed a small church pastors conference to …
166 - A Theology of How the Church Works - with Scot McKnight
Mar 23, 2016 • 57 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Dr. Scot McKnight from Northern Seminary about the messages in his book, A Fellowship of Differents! This is a long, rich, theologically alive conversation! Enjoy!
165 - 4 Reasons Why There’s No One Right Way To Do Church
Mar 16, 2016 • 55 min
Do you really believe that there is no “one right way” to do church? Then why are we always looking for other models to emulate? Jeff and Jonny give you 4 reasons why there is no “one right way” - so do your way the best you can, and don’t sweat it! …
164 - How the Church Engages Culture(s) for God’s Mission
Mar 9, 2016 • 55 min
Wow! David Fitch from Northern Seminary in Chicago joins us for this discussion about the church engaging culture with the Gospel of the Kingdom! David last joined us on episode 145 - if you haven’t listened to it, it’s a great one. This is a “must …
163 - 4 Things Church Attenders Want Pastors To Know
Mar 2, 2016 • 38 min
A Classic Jeff & Jonny episode about 4 things people want their pastors to know. This is a vintage small church ministry conversation that you will resonate with if you pastor a church 200 or under! This is a super encouraging episode with material to …
162 - Simple Ways To Create Better Church Experiences
Feb 24, 2016 • 38 min
Sometimes the most fundamental principles of a thing get lost in the muddled process… of the thing! The thing Jeff and Jonny talk about in this episode is small church ministry. This episode is not about the team that grew their church to 3,000+, it’…
161 - 3 Essential Questions Every Pastor Must Answer
Feb 17, 2016 • 47 min
Dave Jacobs joins the guys to talk about the 3 Essential Questions every pastor must answer, in order to keep growing and keep moving forward in both ministry AND life! This was such a fun episode to record, and quite thought provoking.
160 - Why Your Sermons Should Be Much Longer!
Feb 10, 2016 • 32 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about how to increase the impact of your weekend message. They suggest you start your message on Thursday, and then end it on Wednesday. Your sermon should be much longer, for certain exponential impact! This was a fun one!
159 - The Hard Work of Growing Your Community Impact
Feb 3, 2016 • 45 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the two major ways that our churches can increase their community impact. These are not easy, but effective. Absolutely successful, but they describe the hard work of loving people. This episode will challenge your thinking on…
158 - Your Raw Marriage - Pastor, Have You Ever Thought About Your Marriage Like This Before?
Jan 27, 2016 • 56 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Doug Burford, who is a church planter, counselor, marriage seminar leader, Walk Thru the Bible presenter, and all around great guy! He dissects the marriage relationship and tells us the good, the bad, and ugly! Actually, a ver…
157 - How This Real Life Pastor Handled Ministry Adversity
Jan 20, 2016 • 48 min
Regular, normal, 200church pastor Gary Floyd shares the highs and lows, the flash and the fizzle… the nitty and the gritty of small church ministry - all the way from a small New Mexico town to and through the luxurious and opulent 200churches Studio…
156 - Pastor, Do You Ever Wrestle With These Four Temptations?
Jan 13, 2016 • 37 min
Pastors face all kinds of temptations and none of us is immune from them. In episode 156 Jonny talks with Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Lawrenceville, GA about four areas of temptation common to not only pastors, but all leaders. …
155 - Do You Need More Help Handling Ministry Stress?
Jan 6, 2016 • 50 min
Ministry Stress - we all deal with it! Dave Jacobs, from SmallChurchPastor.com, talks with Jeff about how to mitigate stress in your life as a pastor. You will find in this episode a lot to identify with, along with an ample amount of humor! Jeff and J…
154 - Do You Need Help Handling Ministry Stress?
Dec 30, 2015 • 47 min
Stress is a constant in ministry, and is sometimes a challenge to manage. Dave Jacobs joins us to talk about the causes of ministry stress, the effects on us, and how to minimize them!
153 - A Small Church Pastor Adoption Adventure!
Dec 23, 2015 • 39 min
A personal conversation Jeff has with Jonny via Skype while Jonny and his wife Kayla are on an Adoption Adventure in Florida - during Christmas week 2015! This started as a personal private conversation and ended up as a podcast episode. The entire tal…
152 - The PASTOR LIFE: How Are You Handling the Basics?
Dec 16, 2015 • 35 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the foundational aspects of THAT PASTOR LIFE. What are the things we need to pay attention to as pastors, if we want health and effectiveness… fruit?! They share ten basics, as suggestions for you to think about - do you nee…
151 - Church Health and Growth in a Small Church Context with Carey Nieuwhof
Dec 9, 2015 • 62 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Carey Nieuwhof about church growth, and church health - in a 200church context. Fun, long, practical, encouraging, and challenging! Carey is a pastor in Ontario Canada and pastors a church that is a Northpoint strategic partner…
150 - Do You Have Ministries Ready For the Woodchipper?
Dec 2, 2015 • 44 min
Jonny talks with Dan “The Mentor” Reiland about the ruthless evaluation of church ministries, even to the point of sending some through the wood chipper! An ultimately practical and fun episode! Jeff is not in the conversation with Dan, because he is h…
149 – 8 Essential Practices To Create Meaningful Change In Your 200Church
Nov 25, 2015 • 38 min
Jeff and Jonny share eight essential practices (we’re talkin’ about practice, yes, not the game, practice!. We’re not talkin bout the game, we’re talkin bout practice!) in creating meaningful change in your church. Characteristically interesting, espec…
148 - Do You Know What Visiting Missionaries Need From You & Your Church?
Nov 18, 2015 • 52 min
This episode is a GOLD MINE for you to learn exactly what visiting missionaries need from you while at your church. Missionary Tim talks with Jeff and shares his stories and secrets about how you can make your missionaries’ visits a huge success!
147 - 6 Church Insider Issues You Should No Longer Care About
Nov 11, 2015 • 48 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Karl Vaters about 6 church insider issues he no longer cares about! These are things that only long time church insiders care about, not anyone else. People outside the church never care about these, and neither should we!
146 - Igniting Authentic Worship in Your Small Church
Nov 4, 2015 • 46 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Jeremiah Hollis, an Australian worship leader, about how to ignite authentic and genuine worship in your small church worship experiences. Jeremiah has led worship in their church, and is much loved!
145 - Missional Ministry & Ministry Growth In Your Small Church
Oct 28, 2015 • 49 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Dr. David Fitch, author, seminary prof, and pastor in the Chicago area about missional ministry and what it looks like in your small church. A great talk with a great teacher and theology thinker! David will challenge you to th…
144 - Five Practices To Increase Your Leadership Clarity
Oct 21, 2015 • 51 min
In episode 144, Jeff and Jonny share five practices that will help you increase the leadership clarity in your small church. These five things are immediately applicable in your 200church context! This episode was a blast to record, and while we have f…
143 - Does It Hurt You When People Leave Your Church?
Oct 14, 2015 • 57 min
Wow - Jonny and Jeff talk with Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com about the effects and pain on the pastor when people leave the church. This is a powerful and practical episode! Dave coaches small church pastors every day - you need the encouragem…
142 - Generating New Ideas In Your Small Church
Oct 7, 2015 • 44 min
Jeff and Jonny share their take on how to generate new ideas in your 200church. The very simple things are often the most profound - so they talk about the fundamental elements for new ideas, as well as fantasy football, gambling, church crises, and ev…
141 - A Conversation On Church Vision - Senior Pastors - & Children’s Ministry
Sep 30, 2015 • 59 min
Melissa J MacDonald joins Jonny and Jeff on this episode to talk about the importance of Children’s Ministry, but more, how the Senior Pastor must lead in this area of his/her church. A FANTASTIC episode! Tons of Fun and Encouragement!
140 - Your Church Family Deserves A Great Church!
Sep 23, 2015 • 27 min
Jonny and Jeff record from Vail, Colorado and share why they think your small church can be just as great as any larger church. Size does not dictate quality - love and the Gospel do!
139 - 5 Huge Words of Wisdom For Young Pastors… and Old!
Sep 16, 2015 • 47 min
Jonny and Jeff talk again with John Finkelde about the 5 pieces of advice that he would definitely give to young pastors. This is a very fun, encouraging, and practical episode! And… they do mention Trump, Billiards, and Air Strikes!
138 - What Is The DNA Of Your Church?
Sep 9, 2015 • 37 min
Jeff and Jonny are back, after going four months in the summer of 2015 without recording together! They talk about what the DNA of their church is. This is a fun and encouraging episode, in a new and improved studio!
137 - Being That Church That Loves the People Jesus Loved
Sep 2, 2015 • 49 min
Jeff has a conversation with Rob Tarnoviski, a pastor from Philadelphia, who shares his passion to reach the kind of people most churches do not want to reach. Is your church a safe place for “notorious sinners”? Episode 137 is “jonny-less”. Schedules …
136 - A Successful Strategy At Your New Church Ministry - and Old!
Aug 26, 2015 • 46 min
A great episode with Dave Ronan, Christian and Military leadership expert - on the subject of starting out at your new church. A real must for younger leaders to understand!
135 - How To Work With a Dysfunctional Small Church Board
Aug 19, 2015 • 27 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs about what to do if your board is dysfunctional. This is a “best of” episode all the way back from episode 58! In this month, August 2015, we are pulling up four “best of” episodes from our…
134 - Talking Diversity & Reconciliation in the Body of Christ with Christena Cleveland
Aug 12, 2015 • 45 min
This is a special August 2015 “best of” episode! With a new intro and outro, this conversation is taken from episode 86 - one of our highest rated episodes! Jonny and Jeff talk with Dr. Christena Cleveland about diversity and reconciliation issues with…
133 - One Pastor’s Journey With Depression
Aug 5, 2015 • 39 min
Jonny & Jeff talk with David Craig, Jonny’s Dad, about his journey in ministry with depression. This is a very honest and helpful discussion about something that so many suffer with in silence.
132 - Leading People - The Pastor’s Constant Challenge
Jul 29, 2015 • 40 min
This episode is the part two, the conclusion, of Jeff and Jonny’s conversation with Christian counselor Deon Wynia. Deon talks about how to navigate leadership when you are in the people business. Deon focuses on the pastor’s attitude toward the people…
131 - Trust - The Active Ingredient In Pastoral Leadership
Jul 22, 2015 • 39 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Deon Wynia, a counselor who works with churches on reconciliation and trust issues between pastors and people, and pastors and church leaders. This is an awesome conversation with key leadership lessons you can begin to practic…
130 - Key Considerations For Staying At Or Leaving Your Small Church Ministry
Jul 15, 2015 • 34 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the things you should consider if you are struggling with the Should I stay or should I go? question. What should or shouldn’t you consider? A fun, helpful, practical, and encouraging episode!
129 - Ministry Skills 101 - How To Manage Offending and Being Offended In Ministry
Jul 8, 2015 • 47 min
Jeff and Jonny talk again with your Pastor Coach, Dave Jacobs, from SmallChurchPastor.Com - this time about how to offend less, and be less offended, in your small church ministry. A great conversation that will challenge and encourage you!
128 - Practical Tips For Managing Your Ministry Time
Jul 1, 2015 • 32 min
This is a fun episode with John Finkelde from GrowAHealthyChurch.com talking about how to thrive in a time-poor society. This will both challenge and encourage you!
127 - Confined No More - Impacting Your Community Beyond Your Building.mp3
Jun 24, 2015 • 39 min
This is a great episode with Karl “the Shark” Vaters, a small church pastor in Fountain Valley, CA. Karl talks with us about doing ministry beyond the walls of the church. This is a great episode to get your creative pastoral juices flowing!
126 - Listener Q&A With Dan Reiland!
Jun 17, 2015 • 37 min
Dan Reiland answers listeners’ questions on the horn with Jeff and Jonny. A number of you gave us some great questions for Dan, and he answers every one of them! We know you will be challenged by this episode.
125 - Four Ideas To Refresh Your Ministry.mp3
Jun 10, 2015 • 31 min
124 - The Wonder of Children’s Ministry In a 200church!
Jun 3, 2015 • 43 min
Jeff and Jonny’s Children’s Ministry Director, Jen, is live in the luxurious and opulent 200churches Podcast studio to talk Kid’s Ministry - the wonder, the philosophy, and the magic of working with kids! This is geared for pastors to better understand…
123 - The 8 Proven Ways For Turning Volunteers Into Leaders
May 27, 2015 • 33 min
Jonny talks with the Guru of GrowAHealthyChurch.com, John Finkelde! He talks about how to turn volunteers into leaders - in 8 steps. This is very small church oriented training filled with great ideas and wisdom! You’ll also learn a little from Jeff’s …
122 - How To Be Less Misunderstood As A Pastor
May 20, 2015 • 35 min
Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs joins us with some golden wisdom on how to reduce the misunderstandings in ministry. This is a fun, encouraging, and equipping episode for you as a small church pastor! Enjoy!
121 - How To Freshen Up Your Sunday Morning Experience!
May 13, 2015 • 38 min
Dan “The Animal” Reiland joins the guys for this episode and talks about the evaluative questions to ask in assessing your Sunday morning experience. This is a very full, often serious, yet also humorous and fun episode. You will be both encouraged and…
120 - High Octane Ministry Encouragement from a Real Live Small Church Pastor!
May 6, 2015 • 39 min
Ryan Perz returns to the studio (see episode 17) to talk with the guys about the joys and rigors of small church ministry, straight out of the trenches of his small church of 55! High octane ministry encouragement!
119 - Keep the Volunteer Pipeline Flowing For Successful Ministry Successions
Apr 29, 2015 • 37 min
With Jeff sick, Jonny pulls off a masterful performance with Australian Pastor Coach and Mentor, John Finkelde! They talk about how to create positive ministry successions in your small church, and keep the volunteer pipeline flowing. John is the found…
118 - Working On Contentment In Small Church Ministry
Apr 22, 2015 • 32 min
Nathan Stob joins Jeff and Jonny in studio for a great conversation about being content as a small church pastor. Are we so focused on the “not yet” that we are missing the “already” right in front of us??!!
117 - Insights On Preparing Your Worship Services
Apr 15, 2015 • 45 min
Dan Reiland joins the guys to talk about the mystery of the worship service. This is a great dive into the pastoral side of the worship experience. You should be challenged with this content to consider how much soul prep goes into your services!
116 - How To Be A Small Ego Pastor
Apr 11, 2015 • 42 min
What a crazy ride we had getting this episode out! Jeff got a flat tire on his way back from a hospital visit to record with Jonny and Dave, then Jeff got so sick it went out 3 days late! This should be a good one! We talk about the importance of humil…
115 - How To Maintain Momentum During Your Church’s Off-Season
Apr 1, 2015 • 37 min
Jonny and Jeff share some ideas for keeping your church moving forward during the summer months, or whenever your church’s off-season is. Keep some forward motion so you don’t have to start a new church year from a dead stand still! Also, Jonny again v…
114 - Pastoral Ministry - Life Giving or Life Draining?
Mar 25, 2015 • 53 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with pastor, and 200churches listener, Paul Kuzma about his journey from ministry health, to burnout, back to ministry health. He encourages ministry that is life giving for the pastor, not life draining!
113 - Launching Ministry Initiatives That Truly Require Faith
Mar 18, 2015 • 36 min
This is a somewhat wild episode, with Jonny in a car to Minneapolis, Jeff in the Studio, and Dan Reiland in his Atlanta office. Dan talks about ministry initiatives that truly require FAITH. Dan’s church launched five new campuses this past January, an…
112 - The Heart And Soul Of The Pastor - Can I Trust God With Me?
Mar 11, 2015 • 52 min
This is an episode for the soul and the heart of the pastor. Bill Thrall trains and encourages Christian leaders and pastors, and has been for over twenty years. We cannot even describe this episode… just listen. We had to listen a couple times! Two …
111 - The Vision Thing - In Your Small Church!
Mar 4, 2015 • 41 min
This episode is full of helpful content! Jeff and Jonny lead off with something they are currently trying at their church, then Dave Jacobs joins them to talk about vision, then they finish with practical vision talk from their 200church. You are sure …
110 - Even When It Hurts - Straight Talk On Your Leadership Team
Feb 25, 2015 • 37 min
Jeff and Jonny share with you a very personal conversation they had recently, when Jonny challenged Jeff regarding his preaching. You want to have people around you who will challenge you to be your very best, even when it hurts! Jeff wrote about this …
109 - Five Questions To Ask When Your Church Is Not Growing
Feb 18, 2015 • 37 min
The Pastor’s Coach, Dan Reiland, returns to the podcast to help us evaluate why our church may not be growing. Dan asks five questions about what just might have us stuck - understanding that God decides the size of our churches! This is a fun episode!
108 - A Deep Dive Into the Fundamentals of a Healthy Church
Feb 11, 2015 • 38 min
On episode 107 Karl Vaters cited health as the third alternative for a small church - today Jeff and Jonny take a deep dive into exactly what a healthy church looks like! Clear and practical, they paint the picture of church health…
107 - A Third Alternative To “Grow It Or Close It”
Feb 4, 2015 • 47 min
Karl “the Shark” Vaters joins Jonny and Jeff to talk about a third option to “grow it or close it” for small churches. What if you pastor a small church, and it isn’t growing numerically, but you don’t want to close it? Is there a third option? Yes the…
106 - Beyond Burnout - This Pastor Turned Psychologist Offers Hope!
Jan 28, 2015 • 57 min
Dr. Mike Ferguson joins Jeff to talk about his passion to help small church pastors with burnout, depression, and loneliness. Dr. Mike pastored for 20 years, burned out, recovered, and then became a psychologist to help pastors and churches! This episo…
105 - Leading Transitions and Change in Your Small Church
Jan 21, 2015 • 36 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Jonny’s friend Sam, who shares how his pastor led him in a staffing transition from one role to another, with great success! Great lessons for leading change in your 200church! Along with some classic humor, of course…
104 – The Challenge of Pastoring Toxic People in Your 200Church
Jan 14, 2015 • 55 min
Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs rejoins Jonny and Jeff to talk about the challenge of toxic people in our churches, and how to handle them. The worst thing you could do is ignore them!
103 - How To Think About Visitors and Finances in Your Small Church
Jan 7, 2015 • 54 min
The guys kick off 2015 with a bang by talking to Australian Pastor John Finkelde. John and his wife Di coach and consult with pastors and churches. You’re gonna love this one!! We promise! We are thrilled to be able to share this episode with you to en…
102 - Why Small Church Pastors Need Encouragement!
Dec 31, 2014 • 26 min
Jeff and Jonny share an end of year podcast episode on the last day of 2014! They talk about why their mission is to encourage pastors, and what they hope to accomplish in 2015… with appropriate humor, of course!
101 - Two Ministry Hacks To Immediately Improve Your Ministry
Dec 24, 2014 • 28 min
Jeff and Jonny give you two simple ministry hacks that will immediately begin to improve your ministry. If you want to narrow the focus of your ministry energy, this episode will help and encourage you!
100 - Valuing Volunteers in Your 200church!
Dec 17, 2014 • 30 min
Jeff and Jonny use episode 100 to talk about valuing volunteers. We are to equip our people to do the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ. They share three ways to value volunteers in a small church!
99 - The Skinny On How Small Church Pastors Should Really Treat Visiting Missionaries
Dec 10, 2014 • 41 min
This episode features a conversation with “John Smith” who serves as a missionary in a dangerous part of the world. We talk about how pastors can do a better job with visiting missionaries to their church… and more!
98 - Small Church Pastors Should Fail To Succeed!
Dec 3, 2014 • 26 min
This is a Jeff and Jonny solo episode! They encourage small church pastors to step through failure to success. If you’ve failed recently, this episode is for you. With their classic relational chemistry, they provide a very fun, encouraging, and challe…
97 - The Wonder of the Small Church Pastor!
Nov 26, 2014 • 47 min
We say it all the time, but this episode is one of the best of the 97 episodes we have released! Dr. John Stumbo is the President of our denomination, the Christian & Missionary Alliance - and we talk with him about the importance and wonder of the sma…
96 - Ten Great Numbers To Count In Your Small Church
Nov 19, 2014 • 38 min
Another great episode with Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor at 12Stone Church in Lawrenceville, GA, and former Vice President of John Maxwell’s Injoy company. This conversation is based on a blog post by Dan called “10 ‘Different Numbers’ That Really Matt…
95 - Wise Words From A Seasoned Leader
Nov 12, 2014 • 49 min
Jonny & Jeff are back in the 200churches Podcast Studio for the first time following Jeff’s son’s accident. Doug is in rehab as this is recorded. Jeff gives a short update on his son’s progress, then they play a conversation Jeff had with “John Smith”,…
94 - 15 Years In His 200church - A Conversation With A Pastor Listener
Nov 5, 2014 • 43 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with 200church Pastor Chad Payne. Chad has served for 15 years in his 200church and talks about the blessings and battles of pastoral ministry. You will be encouraged and challenged!
93 - Have You Evaluated Your Preaching Lately? A Conversation with Dave Jacobs
Oct 31, 2014 • 39 min
Jeff shares some personal words on a family crisis, and then he and Jonny talk with Dave Jacobs from smallchurchpastor.com about the subject of preaching. This is the first time the topic of preaching has been discussed on the podcast - to our knowledg…
Special Episode - The Worst Week of My Life
Oct 22, 2014 • 9 min
Jeff shares some words from his heart about his son, Douglas.
92 - To the Brink and Back: How Suffering Produces Lifechange - A Conversation with Dr. John Stumbo
Oct 15, 2014 • 45 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with a pastor who faced down death, recovered, and experienced significant life-change and growth through the process. John Stumbo tells his story, and also, conveniently happens to be the president of their denomination! John share…
91 - Leadership Talk: Going Rogue With Dan Reiland
Oct 8, 2014 • 37 min
On this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk off the cuff with Dan Reiland, asking him how he structures his day, leads his staff, gets stuff done, manages his time, etc. This is an encouraging, inspiring conversation with a great leader!
90 - How Your Small Church Can Help Stop The Ebola Virus!
Oct 1, 2014 • 36 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Living Water International CEO, Mike Mantel, about the seriousness of the Ebola virus in West Africa, and what our small churches can actually do to help make a difference! Yes, YOUR small church is needed in this to make a dif…
89 - Full Time Students Full Time Pastors – Jeff & Jonny’s Story
Sep 24, 2014 • 57 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Danielle Dworak, the lady who helped them through their years at Bethel Seminary! Danielle is involved in student development with pastors and church leaders who are working on their Master’s degrees while remaining in full tim…
88 - Mental Health: When Depression Visits the Pastor
Sep 17, 2014 • 44 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with David Craig, Jonny’s pastor father, about his decades-long silent struggle with Depression. David shares the good, the bad, and the ugly, and offers hope to you if you have also been a silent struggler. It’s time for you to get…
87 - Erik’s Journey To Personal Pastoral Health
Sep 10, 2014 • 40 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with their friend, Erik Anderson - a pastor in St. Paul, MN. Erik talks about getting to the edge of complete burnout, and how he was able to avoid falling off the cliff - and work himself back to good personal health in ministry.
86 - Better Together: Pursuing Diversity In Your Small Church
Sep 3, 2014 • 47 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with author and professor Christena Cleveland about the message of her book, Disunity In Christ - Uncovering the Hidden Forces That Keep Us Apart. We talked with Christena in person in St. Paul, MN. This is a phenomenal conversation…
85 - Can A Small Church Also Be A Great Church?
Aug 27, 2014 • 36 min
Can you have a great church, even though it might be a small church? Karl Vaters from NewSmallChurch.com joins Jeff and Jonny, and the three of them insist, YES! Greatness is within your grasp as a small church - a 200church! There are significant lead…
84 - The Future of 200churches - A Personal Podcast From Jeff & Jonny
Aug 20, 2014 • 33 min
Jeff and Jonny get personal and talk about their vision for the future of 200churches. After more than a year and a half, their passion for small churches could not be stronger! No guests today - just Jeff and Jonny, from the heart.
83 – Two Crucial Steps To Breaking Your Pornography Addiction
Aug 13, 2014 • 40 min
Nathan Stob joins Jonny and Jeff live in the 200churches Studio for this episode. Nathan is a social worker, community leader, father of triplets, and director of an organization committed to helping people back onto the road of life! Together, these g…
82 - How To Develop A More Outward Focused Church
Aug 6, 2014 • 37 min
From the start of this episode, Jonny and Jeff are joined by Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs - where they talk about how to develop a more outward focused church. This just does not happen naturally, unfortunately. Surprisingly, the first person …
81 - A Conversation With The Voice Of The 200churches Podcast!
Jul 30, 2014 • 40 min
Angela, the voice of the 200churches Podcast comes on to talk about what it was like for her and her husband to church shop when they moved to our town, and why they eventually chose our church. Lots of humor and insight for small church pastors!
80 - 5 Great Leadership Characteristics For A Small Church Pastor
Jul 23, 2014 • 46 min
Jonny and Jeff again team up with Dan “the Enforcer” Reiland! This is a content-rich episode that will leave you thinking, and give you fresh ideas on how to be a great pastor/leader in your 200church! You’ll love this episode, we did!
79 - Straight Talk For The Small Church Pastor - Solid Gold!
Jul 16, 2014 • 49 min
Jonny and Jeff visit their District Superintendent and ask him all the questions you would have asked if you were in the room with them. Doug Grogan was called out of a four-month retirement at 65 to re-engage as a District Superintendent. The man is a…
78 - Being Small Is Not One Of Your Church’s Problems!
Jul 9, 2014 • 33 min
Small Churches dot the globe, taking the Kingdom everywhere. It is God’s amazing strategy. We have many problems we must deal with in our 200churches, but being small is not one of them. Karl Vaters talks with Jeff and Jonny about the astonishing power…
77 - How Pastoral Coaching Could Really Help You
Jul 2, 2014 • 33 min
Jeff is sans Jonny on this episode, but he makes it through with the help of his Pastoral Coach, Dave Jacobs! Dave shares in this episode the inside scoop on what he does with small church pastors and their boards every day of the week. Have you ever c…
76 - Practical Pastoral Wisdom After A Quarter Century In The Same 200church
Jun 25, 2014 • 44 min
In his 26th year of pastoral ministry in the same church, Scott “The Leader” Carson shares practical pastoral wisdom that has served him and his church well. He talks with Jonny and Jeff about change, community involvement, raising kids in ministry, th…
75 - How To Solve Problems, One At A Time, In Your 200church
Jun 18, 2014 • 43 min
What a great and inspiring conversation this is with Dan Reiland, the Pastor’s Coach. We had a blast talking with Dan about how to approach problem solving in a small church, in ways that actually solve problems! If you are a small church pastor, this …
74 - How To Multiply Workplace Missionaries In Your Small Church
Jun 11, 2014 • 33 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with John Pletcher, another attendee of the Super-Secret Pastor’s Retreat Jeff attended. John’s book, Henry’s Glory: A Story for Discovering Lasting Significance in Your Daily Work, is the topic of their conversation. It’s an awesom…
73 - Why You Don’t Have To Be Afraid of the 200 Barrier
Jun 4, 2014 • 36 min
Karl “the Shark” Vaters talks with Jonny and Jeff yet again about why some churches simply will never break the 200 barrier - and Karl hates that word “barrier”. As small church pastors, we can never hear enough how important and vital our churches are…
72 - How To “Crush It!” In Leadership When Beginning A New Ministry
May 28, 2014 • 44 min
Jeff & Jonny share a very fun intro, then Jeff talks with Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dave Ronan about leadership in a small church. Dave is a former missionary, seminary professor, and current teacher of Air Force foreign military advisors. He has so…
71 - How To Handle Financial Pressures In Your 200church
May 21, 2014 • 38 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Dave Jacobs, ministry coach to small church pastors, about the struggles pastors face when financial pressures are present in their small church. Don’t face your financial burdens alone! Jeff and Jonny challenge you to find an …
70 - Lessons From Two Laymen - What Every Pastor Needs To Hear
May 14, 2014 • 39 min
This episode contains perspectives from two laymen that will challenge and encourage you, as well as give you ideas for your own 200church ministry. A conversation with Pastor Mark Meyers and his guys Steve Etcher, and Tory Vestal from Grace Bible Chur…
69 - The Very Active Ingredient of a Healthy & Vibrant 200church
May 7, 2014 • 36 min
Jeff recounts his exclusive pastor’s retreat experience and Jonny’s attempted coup in his absence. Karl Vaters then joins the guys to talk about the one condition for small churches to be healthy and effective! Yes, YOUR church can do awesome Kingdom b…
68 - The Essential Five: Priorities For A Small Church Pastor
Apr 30, 2014 • 38 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Dave Jacobs about how in the world to set priorities as a small church pastor - in an encouraging and liberating way! Dave lays out a great plan than any one of us could follow. Encouraging, practical, and helpful!
67 - How To Start Smart As A Young Pastor
Apr 23, 2014 • 41 min
This episode is applicable to all pastors, but is intentionally directed to the YOUNG PASTORS who listen to the podcast. We talk with Dan Reiland about starting smart as a young leader, and also add a lot of content for young pastors on either end of o…
66 - How One Pastor Survived Burnout In His Urban 200church
Apr 16, 2014 • 45 min
Jonny and Jeff talk to Kevin Pringle about his inner city church and how he survived burnout only to equip his church family to do real ministry! This is an encouraging story of how God answered this pastor’s cry for help.
65 - Us 200church Pastors Love Megachurches Too!
Apr 9, 2014 • 34 min
Karl “The Shark” Vaters joins us as we discuss megachurches, why we love them, and how we can benefit from them without feeling inferior… or small! Some great ways to think about megachurches!
64 - The Pastor’s Secret To Breaking Sin’s Power
Apr 2, 2014 • 42 min
Jonny and Jeff have a conversation with the author of The Cure, John Lynch. They talk at length about a pastor’s struggles, and the secret to breaking the power of sin and temptation.
63 - Three Dangers That Small Churches Face
Mar 26, 2014 • 31 min
Jeff and Jonny have a great conversation with Dan “The Enforcer” Reiland about three dangers that small churches face. This is a positive look at how small churches can avoid these dangers! Dan is on this entire episode and shares some fun personal sto…
62 - What Are You Afraid Of? Facing Your Ministry Fears
Mar 19, 2014 • 30 min
Jonny and Jeff record this late night episode around a pre-recorded conversation with SmallChurchPastor.com’s Dave Jacobs. They talk about fear in the ministry - how to face, and fight, fear. This may be a great episode to share with another pastor you…
61 - How Not To Impress God as a 200church Pastor
Mar 12, 2014 • 32 min
John Lynch, from TrueFaced.com joins Jeff and Jonny live, in-studio to talk about the life of grace - we don’t have to please or impress God to get him to approve of us. This is a spiritual episode that will encourage your heart as a pastor and a perso…
60 - Small Church Pastors Should Stand Tall!
Mar 5, 2014 • 33 min
Jeff and Jonny are joined by The Shark, Karl Vaters. They talk about the importance of small churches, and about the pastors who lead them. This episode is a small church pastor super pep-talk!
59 - Six Big Words For Small Church Leaders
Feb 26, 2014 • 37 min
Jonny and Jeff are joined by Dan Reiland, the Pastor’s Coach, as they talk about six big words for small church leaders. This episode is packed with humor, encouragement, and solid ministry training!
58 – What To Do If You Have A Dysfunctional Board
Feb 19, 2014 • 32 min
Jonny and Jeff talk dysfunctional boards with Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs. (Disclaimer: not that we pastors aren’t dysfunctional!) If you are struggling with your board, Dave, Jonny, and Jeff share some encouragement with you in this episode.
57 - Your Church IS Big Enough!
Feb 12, 2014 • 35 min
Jeff and Jonny are again joined by Karl “The Shark” Vaters for a phenomenally encouraging conversation focused on building up pastors of small churches! Thank you, Karl from NewSmallChurch.com!
56 - Brandon Cox Talks Church Planting and Pastors.com
Feb 5, 2014 • 36 min
Jeff and Jonny share a few ministry ideas on either end of this conversation with Brandon Cox, church planter and content manager of Pastors.com. They talk small church, church planting, Pastors.com, leadership, and more!
55 - Six Words For Small Churches with Dan Reiland
Jan 29, 2014 • 32 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Dan Reiland about some very cool dynamics of small churches - 6 Words For Small Churches! Dan joins the guys every last Wednesday of the month. Dan is the executive pastor at 12stone Church in Lawrenceville GA.
54 - Are You Wired For Your Church In These 3 Areas?
Jan 22, 2014 • 27 min
Jonny and Jeff talk about understanding how you are wired for ministry in three areas: your church/church culture, your staff/leadership, and your style of presenting God’s Word each week. They are open and honest about their struggle with this week’s …
53 - The Highest Priority of a Small Church Pastor - with Dave Jacobs
Jan 15, 2014 • 27 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with SmallChurchPastor.com’s Dave Jacobs about the absolute highest priority of a small church pastor, or any pastor! What is it that you should make top shelf in your life and ministry? Find out in this episode. For a living - Dave…
52 - Super, Awesome, Fantastical Lessons We’re Learning For A New Year!
Jan 8, 2014 • 28 min
Jonny and Jeff share some lessons that they are leaning into as they embark on ministry together in 2014 in their 200church. Jeff created the title, then Jonny dressed it up with some adjectives on the front end. Can you tell?! This is a very practica…
51 - Help! We’re Small Church Pastors - with Karl Vaters
Jan 1, 2014 • 34 min
Happy New Year to YOU!! Today is the first Wednesday of the month, and in 2014 the first Wednesday means we will be joined in part or in whole by Karl Vaters! Part, as in “part of the episode”, not part of Karl! Karl brings a ton of small church moxie …
50 - Training and Mentoring Leaders with Dan Reiland
Dec 25, 2013 • 28 min
In episode 50, Jeff and Jonny talk with Dan Reiland about training and mentoring leaders. This is Part 5 of their 2013 series with Dan, the Pastor’s Coach. Great pastoral leadership principles are discussed with great chemistry, and a fair amount of hu…
49 - Small Church Pastor To-Do and Not-To-Do Lists for 2014
Dec 18, 2013 • 30 min
On a short clip with Dave Jackson, Jeff and Jonny talk about how 200churches began. They started something - their podcast and blog - almost one year ago. In light of that, they talk about starting and stopping things in the new year… 2014. Encouragi…
48 - Dave Jackson Talks Podcasting and Small Church Ministry
Dec 11, 2013 • 40 min
Jonny and Jeff are joined by Dave Jackson, an 8-year veteran podcaster who weighs in on his small church experiences, as well as his assessment of how good a job Jeff and Jonny are doing with the Podcast! As usual, there is a lot of small church talk a…
47 - Social Media in Small Churches with Erik Fisher
Dec 4, 2013 • 52 min
This is a jam-packed episode with great leadership lessons, a conversation with Erik Fisher from beyondthetodolist.com on the topic of social media and ministry - and so much more! This is the longest episode to date, so plan on listening to it in sect…
46 - Dan Reiland Talks Amplified Leadership Part 4/5
Nov 27, 2013 • 28 min
On this Thanksgiving week episode, Jeff and Jonny again talk with Dan Reiland about raising up young leaders. They have a special announcement to make about Dan Reiland… long term! They also talk about their podcast and website - and the holidays!
45 - Cynthia Moore - 20 Years Serving the Same Rural Church!
Nov 20, 2013 • 40 min
In this episode Jeff & Jonny are joined by a real life, 200church pastor who has served the same rural church for twenty years! Cynthia Moore pastors a church down a gravel road, and shares the challenges and blessings of small church ministry. In anot…
44 - The Pastor’s Self-Care with Dave Jacobs from SmallChurchPastor.com
Nov 13, 2013 • 47 min
Dave Jacobs, a coach to small church pastors and boards, joins Jonny and Jeff to talk about the importance of the pastor’s self-care and soul-care. This is a great conversation with a guy who coaches pastors for a living! He knows us inside and out, an…
43 - Small Church Pastors and Pornography Addiction
Nov 6, 2013 • 31 min
In this episode Jonny and Jeff are joined by their friend Nathan Stob, the Director of Atlas Ministries in their town. Nathan counsels and helps men in their community with all kinds of life issues, including porn addiction. This is a serious discussio…
42 - Dan Reiland Talks Amplified Leadership Part 3
Oct 30, 2013 • 32 min
What a great episode with our friend Dan Reiland from 12Stone Church! In this episode Dan talks to us about everything from trimming back our ministries to increase our impact - to the difference between equipping and developing our people. Jeff and Jo…
41 - Karl Vaters Talks Small Church Ministry In Croatia
Oct 23, 2013 • 34 min
Jonny and Jeff talk with Karl Vaters about his trip to Croatia to speak to small church pastors on the pro-small church message of his book, The Grasshopper Myth. He found church leaders who were hungry for his message, and Karl filled them with hope a…
40 - Jim Powell Talks Church Culture & His Book, Dirt Matters
Oct 16, 2013 • 41 min
This episode is a great conversation about the culture of a church with Jim Powell from 95Network.com and Richwoods Christian Church. Jim is the author of Dirt Matters and we discuss how understanding and shaping the culture of your church is crucial t…
39 - Pastor Rob’s 17 Year Ministry Grind - Part 2
Oct 9, 2013 • 37 min
This is Part 2, and the conclusion of Jeff’s conversation with Rob Tarnoviski, Lead Pastor of Bethel Fellowship, The Church at Franklin Mills, Philadelphia, PA. They talk about the importance of fit between a pastor and a ministry, and how crucial it i…
38 - Pastor Rob’s 17 Year Ministry Grind - We Try Stuff
Oct 2, 2013 • 31 min
This episode is Part 1 of a two part conversation between Jeff and Rob Tarnoviski, Lead Pastor of Bethel Fellowship - The Church at Franklin Mills, in Philadelphia PA. Rob and Jeff have been best friends for 30 years, yet have been serving in very diff…
37 - Dan Reiland Talks Amplified Leadership Part 2
Sep 25, 2013 • 31 min
This is the second of five episodes with Dan Reiland, author of Amplified Leadership: 5 Practices To Establish Influence, Build People, and Impact Others For A Lifetime. Dan talks with Jeff and Jonny about building people as you recruit and develop lea…
36 - How Group Dynamics Creates That Dreaded 200 Barrier And What To Do About It
Sep 18, 2013 • 28 min
In this episode, Jeff and Jonny discuss the issue of church size, group dynamics, and how both create that annoying 200 barrier in most churches. They key off an article by Timothy Keller. They also have their first hint of conflict ever on the podcast…
35 - Avoiding Distractions That Take Us Off Course
Sep 11, 2013 • 20 min
New podcast theme music debuts in this episode! Jonny and Jeff talk about how to avoid being thrown off course by those frequent and even necessary distractions in ministry. Momentum is important and they talk about how not to lose it.
34 - Raising Children In Ministry: The Pastor’s Kids!
Sep 4, 2013 • 27 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about pastor’s kids, and are joined by Jeff’s son, Doug. Doug and Jonny are both pastor’s kids and have grown up in a ministry family. Jonny has two preschool sons, and Jeff has three adult children, and one at home. In this episode…
33 - Dan Reiland Talks About Amplified Leadership - Part 1/5
Aug 28, 2013 • 29 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Dan Reiland, Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church in Lawrenceville, GA, and author of Amplified Leadership. This is the first of five episodes that will be released on the last Wednesdays of August through December 2013. Dan focu…
32 - Why You Should Explore Creative Communication Methods
Aug 21, 2013 • 28 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the importance of creatively communicating God’s word every weekend. With some tongue-in-cheek humor, and a lot of passion, they explain why creativity and change actually honors God’s word and keeps people engaged.
31 - Founder of NewSmallChurch.com Talks Small Church Ministry
Aug 14, 2013 • 33 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Karl Vaters, a 200church pastor from Orange County, CA and founder of NewSmallChurch.com, a blog devoted to Small Church ministry. This is only 30 minutes of an almost hour long conversation we enjoyed. Karl is full of vision a…
30 - Why Both Your Strengths AND Your Weaknesses Make Your Ministry
Aug 7, 2013 • 25 min
We often view strengths as positive and weaknesses as negative. Jeff and Jonny talk about the benefits of both, and why you want to keep your weaknesses! This is a great “perspective” episode, to help you appreciate how God has uniquely created you for…
29 - Isolated Pastors and the Heart of 200churches
Jul 31, 2013 • 17 min
In this episode, Jeff and Jonny share their hearts as they describe their vision for 200churches. They believe that as pastors, you can get enough training, education, and information – but you cannot get enough encouragement and inspiration! They shar…
28 - Why You Should Encourage Conflict Among The Leaders Of Your 200church
Jul 24, 2013 • 25 min
Who wants conflict? Well, just anyone who wants to find the best solution, the greatest idea, or the most effective method! In this episode, Jonny and Jeff talk about why a pastor of a 200church should encourage, utilize, and manage positive conflict w…
27 - How To Resolve Any Disagreement In Ministry
Jul 17, 2013 • 24 min
Personalities clash, preferences collide, pride swells, and ministry leaders disagree - what to do about it? So many churches suffer, split, or even dissolve because church leaders do not resolve conflicts and differences. Jeff and Jonny share ten step…
26 - Four Challenges To Boldness In MInistry and Why You Should Create A Stir
Jul 10, 2013 • 21 min
Do you pander, hedge your bets, or back off potentially controversial issues? In this episode Jonny and Jeff talk about speaking boldly in your 200church. You might think it would be easier to be bold if you had more people, and could afford to lose a …
25 - How To Turn Around A Messy 200church
Jul 3, 2013 • 29 min
Jonny and Jeff are joined by Greg Atkinson, the Campus Pastor at Forest Park Carthage, near Joplin MO. Greg is an author and speaker, but his heart is in the local church and he is first a pastor. Greg shares what it took for him to turn his messy 200c…
24 - How To Lead and Influence Older People As A Young Leader
Jun 26, 2013 • 25 min
Jeff and Jonny answer a question sent in by Tyler Eiland. He asked about how to lead people in his church who have been attending the church he pastors for twice as long as he has been alive… Good question Tyler! Many of us younger leaders have to de…
23 - Five Technologies Every 200church Must Engage With
Jun 19, 2013 • 20 min
Jonny and Jeff talk about social media that every 200church must engage with. It’s easier than ever to stay connected with people, we just have to do it. Here are five social media technologies that your church must engage with, or be left out…
22 - How To Give Clean Water For Life To 30K People
Jun 12, 2013 • 27 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Steve Spear, a former Willow Creek pastoral staff member, and current TEAM World Vision volunteer who is running across America to raise 1.5 million dollars to provide clean water for life to an African community of 30 thousand…
21 - The Lessons We Learned At The Chick-fil-A Leadercast
Jun 5, 2013 • 19 min
Jeff and Jonny share their experience and the lessons they learned at the Chick-fil-A Leadercast on May 10, 2013. They comment on the speakers, the value of leadership development, and the advantage of being monkey buddies.
20 - How Do Twenty-Somethings View The Church?
May 29, 2013 • 23 min
Jonny and Jeff are joined by Robert, a recent attender to their church. Robert is a pastor’s kid, who became disillusioned with the church as a young adult, and stepped away from it for about seven years. Rob joins the discussion to talk about what his…
19 - How To Encourage Your People
May 22, 2013 • 19 min
Jeff and Jonny are joined by David Craig, who is to blame for Jonny! Jonny’s Dad talks about his experiences over forty years of pastoring 200churches, and his new book, The Gospel According to Molly. They generally discuss ways to encourage your churc…
18 - 5 Signs You Might Be A Plastic Pastor And What To Do About It
May 15, 2013 • 20 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the warning signs of plasticity in pastoral ministry. Are you a “Plasti-Pastor”? Jonny calls them “Ken Doll” pastors, and Jeff just thinks they’re phonies. The tendency toward plasticity haunts us all as pastors, and they give…
17 - The Pros and Cons of Small Church Ministry
May 8, 2013 • 19 min
In this episode Jeff and Jonny are joined by Ryan Perz, a pastor of a 200church… of 50! Ryan joins the conversation, sharing some of his background and the thing he has in common with Jonny and Jeff, as they discuss the pros and cons of ministry in a…
16 - Antidote For A Selfish Church
May 1, 2013 • 19 min
In this episode Jonny and Jeff define what a selfish church is, maybe not what you’re thinking. They then talk about the antidote, what can turn a selfish church into an outward focused church.
15 - Our Fantasy Sunday Morning Service
Apr 24, 2013 • 15 min
In this episode Jeff and Jonny share their fantasy Sunday morning service - and the unrealistic expectations that accompany it. Then they share four expectations we can all see fulfilled every Sunday morning, no matter the size or make-up of our church.
14 - 8 Ways To Build Relationships With Your Church Board
Apr 17, 2013 • 20 min
In this episode we welcome a cameo appearance by Michael Hyatt, and play a clip from his podcast to set up our discussion on how to build relationships with your church board, so that you can work together to effect change in your church.
13 - What Real Ministry Looks Like
Apr 9, 2013 • 18 min
Jeff and Jonny talk with Chris Nye, a pastor from the Portland, OR area. Chris wrote a Leadership Journal article called The New Televangelists, and that is the topic of their conversation.
12 - What Makes a Pastor Want to Leave?
Apr 3, 2013 • 18 min
The hymn says, “Prone to wander, Lord I feel it…” and in this episode Jonny and Jeff talk about the things that make a pastor want to leave their church, and think that the grass is really going to be greener at the next place…
11 - Integrating Your Church Into the Community
Mar 26, 2013 • 16 min
Jeff and Jonny talk about the challenge of integrating your church into the community. The goal is a church that, if gone, the community would really, really miss! They talk about the challenge of breaking down the barrier between the church and the co…
10 - Working With Volunteer Leaders
Mar 19, 2013 • 21 min
In this episode, Jeff and Jonny welcome Jan Schuiteman to the podcast! Jan has been an elder, and a leader at almost every level at our church for the past 30 years. Jan is a businessman who believes that business, life, ministry, church are all the sa…
09 - Positive Approaches to your Prayer Shortage
Mar 12, 2013 • 20 min
Jonny and Jeff talk about the five reasons why they find themselves in a prayer shortage, and how to approach and overcome them.
08 - How To Balance our Personal Life, Family Time, and Ministry Responsibilities
Mar 6, 2013 • 19 min
In this episode Jeff & Jonny talk about the challenge of managing our time to give honor to our personal lives, our family time, and our ministry responsibilities.
07 - Creating a Welcoming Atmosphere
Feb 27, 2013 • 19 min
In this episode Jonny and Jeff talk about creating a welcoming environment in your church regardless of the extent of your resources.
06 - Getting New People Involved in Ministry ASAP
Feb 19, 2013 • 20 min
In this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about what stands in the way of getting new people involved in a ministry quickly, and how to move beyond those obstacles to get new people plugged in ASAP.
05 - Brian Hanson and Gatekeepers Ministry
Feb 12, 2013 • 16 min
Brian Hansen, director of Gatekeepers ministry dropped by this week to talk a bit about equipping church leaders and laypeople to minister to those in their sphere of influence.
04 - Cultivating Good Staff Relationships
Feb 5, 2013 • 22 min
In this episode of the 200churches podcast, Jonny and Jeff talk about the importance of having good staff relationships and give some tips on how to cultivate those relationships.
03 - How to Handle People Leaving Your Church
Jan 29, 2013 • 14 min
In this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about how to handle people leaving your church. It’s inevitable in a 200church that people will cycle in and out„ so we have some tips for how to best manage those changes.
02 - Handling the Sacred Cows in Your Church
Jan 22, 2013 • 15 min
In this episode of 200churches, Jonny and Jeff talk about “sacred cows” in our churches and how to effectively deal with those areas that seem too tough to change.
01 - Not as Bad as it Used to Be
Jan 18, 2013 • 8 min
In this episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about their motivation for creating 200churches and how to avoid being a church that settles for “not as bad as it used to be.”
00 - What is 200churches?
Jan 16, 2013 • 9 min
In this first episode, Jeff and Jonny talk about the vision for the 200churches Podcast and blog at 200churches.com. 200churches.com exists to encourage, support, and affirm pastors of smaller churches, and the importance of their ministries and church…