Pastors' Talk

Pastors' Talk

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Pastors’ Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.
80: On Planning your Preaching Schedule
Mar 19 • 24 min
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79: On Funerals
Mar 12 • 21 min
78: On Pastoring Members in the Workplace (with Sebastian Traeger)
Mar 5 • 26 min
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77: On Living Close to your Church
Feb 26 • 23 min
When deciding where to live, Christians ought to consider normal factors: school district, safety, etc. But they should also consider—and perhaps even prioritize—how location affects their relationships at church. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP:…
76: On Pastoral Pay
Feb 19 • 25 min
The Great Commission has been fulfilled, at least in part, by local Christians setting aside money to pay someone to teach them God’s Word full-time when possible. Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman discuss the principle of churches paying their pastors. Join…
75: On Church Planting (with Brian Davis and Nathan Knight)
Feb 12 • 30 min
What’s the difference between a church plant and a church? Is it best to start a church with a team of pastors rather than a solo pastor? Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/9Marks FACEBOOK:…
74: On Ecclesiology for Calvinists (with Sam Emadi)
Feb 5 • 26 min
For this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan interviewed Mark Dever and Sam Emadi about our new Journal, Ecclesiology for Calvinists. Download the 9Marks Journal at http://9marks.org . Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER:…
73: On The Lord’s Supper (with Bobby Jamieson)
Jan 28 • 29 min
In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan asks Mark and Bobby a bunch of questions about the Lord’s Supper. What’s the most biblical position: open, close, or closed? Should the Supper be given at small groups and summer camps, weddings and nursing…
72: On Baptism (with Bobby Jamieson)
Jan 22 • 30 min
Almost every Christian denomination and tradition practices baptism. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and Jonathan are joined by Bobby Jamieson to discuss practical questions about baptism and its connection to the local church. Join the 9Marks…
71: On Canceling Church
Jan 15 • 23 min
In this episode, Mark and Jonathan discuss the biblical and theological principles for why Christians gather on Sundays, and why, generally speaking, those principles make canceling any Sunday gathering an unusual choice.
70: On Church Revitalization (with Aaron Menikoff & Andy Davis)
Jan 8 • 28 min
What do pastors in the throes of church revitalization need to know? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan interviews Mark and two other pastors who went through a revitalization, Andy Davis and Aaron Menikoff. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP:…
69: On Pastoral Calling (with Brad Wheeler)
Dec 18, 2018 • 25 min
How does a man discern whether he ought to pursue pastoral ministry? What if he’s already in a successful career? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Brad Wheeler about how the Lord led him away from a career in finance to…
68: On Missionaries and Churches (with Andy Johnson and John Folmar)
Dec 11, 2018 • 28 min
In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan sits down with Mark, John Folmar, and Andy Johnson to talk about healthy churches and global missions. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/9Marks…
67: On Hospitality and the Gospel (with Kent & Rosaria Butterfield)
Dec 4, 2018 • 56 min
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66: On Contextualization (with John Folmar and Trip Lee)
Nov 27, 2018 • 35 min
What’s the goal in contextualization? How do we know if we’ve gone too far, or not far enough?
65: On Jonathan’s New Book, The Rule of Love
Nov 19, 2018 • 27 min
The Bible tells us that “God is love.” But what does that actually mean? And what does it have to do with our lives and the local church? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about Jonathan’s new book, The Rule of Love.
64: On Equipping the Church to Fight Pornography Together (with Deepak Reju)
Nov 13, 2018 • 31 min
It’s vital for individual Christians to pursue holiness. But how can church members work *together* in fighting against the sin of pornography?
63: On The Pastor and Pornography
Nov 5, 2018 • 30 min
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62: On How to Prepare a Church to Practice Discipline
Oct 30, 2018 • 22 min
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61: On Shepherding during Disagreements
Oct 23, 2018 • 27 min
‪How should a pastor shepherd people through disagreement? How should he balance the tension between being a truth-teller and a peacemaker?‬ ‪Mark and Jonathan discuss. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER:…
60: On Cultivating a Culture of Evangelism
Oct 16, 2018 • 19 min
Churches shouldn’t farm out personal evangelism to pastors, professionals, or programs. Instead, the goal for every church ought to be a culture of evangelism. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER:…
59: On Teaching the Church about the Church
Oct 9, 2018 • 21 min
Pastors must teach their people about what a church is. If they don’t, then who will? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about this often overlooked part of a pastor’s job description.
58: On Members Meetings
Oct 2, 2018 • 23 min
Are members’ meetings in the Bible? How can a pastor cultivate a culture where people care about the business of their church? What tone should mark these kinds of meetings? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and Jonathan discuss members meetings—what…
57: On Prayer (with John Onwuchekwa)
Sep 25, 2018 • 29 min
In the season premiere of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan and Mark sit down with John Onwuchekwa to talk about his new 9Marks book Prayer: How Praying Together Shapes the Church.
56: On Pastoral Burnout
Jul 16, 2018 • 29 min
Mark and Jonathan discuss the subject of burnout, particularly how it happens and what church leaders can do to avoid it in the first place.
55: On the Ministry of Good Christian Books
Jun 5, 2018 • 29 min
Good books help us follow Jesus. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and Jonathan discuss instrumental books in Mark’s conversion, what books every prospective pastor should read, and what books church leaders should hand out to their people.
54: On “Broad” & “Narrow” Complementarianism
May 29, 2018 • 26 min
Complementarianism is an umbrella term, under which Christians with both “narrow” and “broad” convictions stand. Narrow complementarians are reluctant to say much more about the differences between men and women beyond texts like Ephesians 5:22 and 1 Tim.…
53: On Deacons
May 21, 2018 • 28 min
What does a biblical deacon do? How do they differ from elders? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan talks to Mark about the biblical office of deacon.
52: On the Sufficiency of Scripture
May 14, 2018 • 26 min
What do we mean when we say that Scripture is “sufficient”? Does the sufficiency of Scripture have anything to do with pastoral ministry? Does it shackle pastors or does it provide them reassurance? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan chats with…
51: On How the Reformation Changed Sunday Gatherings (with Jonathan Gibson)
May 7, 2018 • 33 min
Through the liturgies of the Reformation, evangelical doctrine was as much caught in public worship as it was taught in published writings
50: On the Role of Associate Pastors
Apr 30, 2018 • 31 min
In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with pastors Jamie Dunlop and Bobby Jamieson to discuss their roles, and how their work complements Mark’s as the senior pastor.
49: On How the Nations Rage
Apr 23, 2018 • 29 min
In this episode, Mark chats with Jonathan about his new book How the Nations Rage: Rethinking Faith & Politics in a Divided Age.
48: On Core Seminars and Sunday School
Apr 17, 2018 • 24 min
For many churches, the Sunday School hour has gone by the wayside. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk about how Core Seminar classes can become a vital ministry for any local church.
47: On T4G and Celebrity Pastors
Apr 10, 2018 • 29 min
We’re gearing up for the sixth Together for the Gospel conference. Does this conference—which will host 12,000+ people—exacerbate the problem of celebrity pastors, especially as articulated recently on TGC by Andy Crouch? Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman…
46: On Biblical Theology
Apr 2, 2018 • 29 min
In this episode, Mark and Jonathan sit down with Nick Roark, a pastor and the author of the new book “Biblical Theology: How the Church Faithfully Teaches the Gospel”.
45: On Elders Meetings (Part 2)
Mar 26, 2018 • 30 min
Jonathan and Mark continue their conversation on elders’ meetings, exploring common questions like: should elders require unanimity? What should a new pastor do if he inherits a contentious elder? Should close decisions be delayed, or should elders just…
44: On Elders Meetings (Part 1)
Mar 19, 2018 • 23 min
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43: On Pastoring Through Theological Controversies
Mar 12, 2018 • 31 min
It’s not a pastor’s job to have a PhD. But pastors *are* called to protect the flock from false teachers, and to shepherd people through theological questions and concerns. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and Jonathan are joined by Ligon Duncan of…
42: On the Usefulness of Pastoral Internships
Mar 5, 2018 • 29 min
In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Matt Merker—a pastoral assistant at Capitol Hill Baptist Church—chats with Mark Dever about the usefulness of pastoral internships.
41: On Prayer Service
Feb 26, 2018 • 27 min
In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever discuss the benefits and best practices of hosting a regular, church-wide prayer gathering—in addition to the Sunday service.
40: On Facing Disappointment
Feb 20, 2018 • 29 min
How should pastors respond when their ministry is marked by disappointment and unmet expectations? “Pastor, if you’re discouraged by a lack of fruit, stop looking at the past 20 days. Look at the past 20 years.” — Mark Dever
39: On Mere Christianity
Feb 12, 2018 • 28 min
Is “mere Christianity”—the conviction that we should focus on only what’s essential to being a Christian—really the path toward true Christian unity? Does it guard the gospel over time?
38: On the Pastor’s Heart and Other Churches
Feb 5, 2018 • 24 min
Pastors are used to saying goodbye to long-time friends. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan interviews Mark about how to prepare for these sad-but-joyful moments.
37: On the 20th Anniversary of 9Marks
Jan 30, 2018 • 27 min
January 2018 marks the 20th anniversary of 9Marks. To celebrate that milestone, Jonathan interviewed the two guys who were there when it all began: Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker.
36: On Discipling
Jan 22, 2018 • 29 min
Discipling doesn’t need to be tethered to an elaborate program. Instead, it should be a part of a church’s culture. That’s easy to say, but hard to implement. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about discipling in the…
35: On Leadership (with H.B. Charles, Burk Parsons, and Jeramie Rinne)
Jan 16, 2018 • 37 min
Jonathan Leeman interviews four seasoned pastors—Mark Dever, Burk Parsons, H. B. Charles, and Jeramie Rinne—about leadership.
34: On Church Discipline
Jan 9, 2018 • 24 min
33: On Race (part 2)
Dec 18, 2017 • 31 min
Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman continue their conversation about racial division in the church, highlighting the ways pastors can both educate themselves and work against it.
32: Remembering R.C. Sproul
Dec 18, 2017 • 15 min
Mark Dever reflects on his friendship with the late R.C. Sproul.
31: On Race (Part 1)
Dec 11, 2017 • 29 min
Mark Dever chats with Jonathan Leeman about America’s racial history, and how Christians should learn from brothers and sisters who aren’t like them. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/9Marks…
30: On Planning the Sunday Gathering (with Matt Merker)
Dec 4, 2017 • 23 min
What goes into planning the Sunday gathering? Who should pick the songs, the Scripture readings, the types of prayer? Should all these choices be thematically related to the text that will be preached? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Matt Merker—a hymn…
29: On Sermon Preparation
Nov 28, 2017 • 26 min
How long should a preacher prep for his sermons? When and how should he consult commentaries? What’s the best way to involve others in the process?
28: On Seminary & Pastoral Training (with C. J. Mahaney)
Nov 20, 2017 • 28 min
Almost everyone agrees pastors need to be trained, both practically and theologically. But does this mean they must receive formal theological training from a seminary? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan interviews both Mark and C. J. Mahaney…
27: On How to Find a Pastor
Nov 13, 2017 • 27 min
How should a church find its next pastor? Who makes this decision? A search committee? A group of elders? The pastor all by himself? And once such a search begins, how should it start? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan interviews Mark about “one…
26: On Multi-Site Churches (with Matt Chandler)
Nov 6, 2017 • 24 min
Over the past several decades, the multi-site church model has become quite popular. Recently, however, The Village Church, pastored by Matt Chandler, announced it was transitioning all of its sites into independent local churches. In this episode of…
25: On the Mission of the Church
Oct 30, 2017 • 28 min
What is the mission of the church? Is it to preach the gospel and make disciples—or is that too narrow? What about good works? What about seeking transformation for our neighborhoods—or is that too broad?
24: On Pastoral Friendships
Oct 24, 2017 • 24 min
Pastoring can be lonely. But it doesn’t have to be.
23: On Polity and Discipleship
Oct 16, 2017 • 26 min
Does church order really have anything to do with discipleship? Isn’t one polity—presbyterian, congregational, etc.—just as good as another? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark Dever to talk about these questions and more.
22: On the Conscience
Oct 9, 2017 • 27 min
Evangelicals are always in danger of losing the gospel because they don’t appreciate the role of the conscience and Christian freedom. The conscience is there to protect Christian freedom—and Christian freedom protects us from legalism. This is important…
21: On Missions
Oct 2, 2017 • 24 min
Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark Dever to talk about how local churches can more wisely support overseas work.
20: On the Reformation
Sep 25, 2017 • 25 min
In conjunction with the Fall 2017 Journal “The Reformation and Your Church,” Jonathan Leeman interviews Mark Dever on the Reformation and its usefulness for Christians today.
19: On Church Mergers and Plants
Jun 19, 2017 • 25 min
We just released a Journal on church planting and church mergers. Because neither Mark nor Jonathan wrote an article for it, we devoted this episode of Pastors’ Talk to the topic. Also: this will be our last Pastors’ Talk until September, though we’ll be…
18: On Conversion
Jun 12, 2017 • 26 min
In a few weeks, we’re releasing a new book, Conversion: How God Creates a People, in which Michael Lawrence makes the case that one’s doctrine of conversion has massive effects on one’s philosophy of ministry. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark and…
17: On How to Receive and Dismiss Members
Jun 5, 2017 • 26 min
One of the most important and time-consuming tasks for a church and its pastors involves receiving and releasing members, bringing them in and seeing them out. And yet, it’s almost never talked about in books on the church or in seminary. To fill in this…
16: On Corporate Prayer
May 29, 2017 • 28 min
In many evangelical churches, the public prayers are casual, short, and few. Is that a problem? How does this contemporary situation compare to the history of Protestant churches? How should pastors seek to reinvigorate their churches’ prayer practices?…
15: On How Quickly a Pastor Should Make Changes
May 23, 2017 • 27 min
It’s tempting for a new pastor to show up with a laundry list of problems that need to be fixed. But that approach almost never works, and many have left churches worse off due to their hastiness in implementing change. To help pastors with this, Jonathan…
14: How the “Senior Pastor” Relates to Other Pastors
May 15, 2017 • 26 min
Does the senior pastor—or the teaching pastor, or the lead pastor, or whatever title your church gives to the man who preaches most often—have more authority than other pastors, either in the pay of the church or not? Does he have a kind of different…
13: On Being a Word-Centered Church
May 9, 2017 • 21 min
It’s a question countless pastors ask every single day: How can I grow my church? In his new book WORD-CENTERED CHURCH, Jonathan Leeman offers a biblical answer to that question. In summary, God intends to grow his church through the proclamation of his…
12: On Small Groups
May 2, 2017 • 17 min
These days, small groups are quite common. But are they enough for community and accountability? What’s the best way to do small groups such that they don’t interfere with the regular Sunday gathering? Mark and Jonathan discuss these questions and more in…
11: On Being “Called” to Ministry
Apr 25, 2017 • 26 min
Being “called” to ministry isn’t entirely personal, internal, and subjective. It involves both the individual and a church, an internal desire and external confirmation. In this Pastors’ Talk episode, Jonathan asked Mark about common misconceptions of…
10: Should A Church Reflect Its Surrounding Community?
Apr 17, 2017 • 22 min
Does your congregation look like the people who live around it? If not, does it matter? How important is it that a church reflects its surrounding community? For the latest Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman sat down with Mark Dever to chat about these…
9: On the Use and Abuse of Authority
Apr 10, 2017 • 29 min
Authority is God’s good and dangerous gift. Therefore, it’s of the utmost importance for pastors and church leaders to exercise their authority well, and in doing so image God. SHOW NOTES: – Why is authority such an under-talked about topic? (:45) – Has…
8: What Makes a Good Pastor?
Apr 4, 2017 • 25 min
How do we know what makes a good pastor? Do we learn this exclusively from the Bible? From the latest business books? Jonathan chats with Mark about what a pastor is, and what it means to take a pastoral approach to Christian ministry.
7: How to Leave Your Church Well
Mar 27, 2017 • 21 min
Jonathan chats with Mark about good and bad reasons to leave a church, and offers principles for leaving well once the decision has been made.
6: On Pastoring Singles
Mar 21, 2017 • 24 min
We just released a Journal with close to 20 articles on Pastoring Singles. Because the Journal was Mark’s idea, Jonathan sat down with him to ask questions on the topic. SHOW NOTES: – Why a Journal on singles? (0:40) – What are the biggest challenges and…
5: On Political Disagreements in the Church
Mar 13, 2017 • 24 min
We live in politically contentious times. Jonathan Leeman sat down with Mark Dever to chat about how to pastor people faithfully amidst political disagreement. SHOW NOTES: – March us through how you pastored through the most contentious election in recent…
4: On Receiving Criticism as a Pastor
Mar 7, 2017 • 20 min
If you’re a pastor, you’re used to being criticized—both fairly and unfairly. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan sits down with Mark to chat about receiving criticism well, the dangers of avoiding criticism altogether, and how to build into a…
3: On Sermon Application
Feb 27, 2017 • 20 min
If a preacher is doing his job well, then he’s not only explaining what a text means, but also applying that meaning to the lives of his hearers. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark Dever to talk about the difficult task…
2: On Pastoring in the Age of Social Media
Feb 21, 2017 • 21 min
A mere ten years ago, social media didn’t exist. Now it’s everywhere. Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark Dever to chat about the difficulties of pastoring in the age of social media. SHOW NOTES: – What are some of the dangers you see intrinsic to social…
1: On Gospel Growth Beyond Your Church
Feb 14, 2017 • 26 min
In the inaugural episode of our new podcast Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman sits down with Mark Dever to talk about seeing the gospel grow in your city, not just your church. SHOW NOTES: – What do you do when the revival you’ve been praying for breaks out…